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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #325 on: November 27, 2008, 02:43:50 PM »
small arms
calves too big for his quads
quads lacked cuts
wide waist
strange gap between lower part of inner chest
somewhat shallow chest

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LMFAO small arms , biceps maybe , triceps & forearms were NOT small , correction #1
calves to big for quads nonsense you're to used to looking at the small calves Levrone sported and think thats how they're supposed to be , correction #2
quads lacked cuts , more nonsense , he did tear the quad in 94 so this does obscure the development some what but before that all of the muscles of the quads were fully developed and defined , correction #3
wide waist? relative to who? a 205 pound Shawn Ray and a 225 Pound Flex Wheeler? his waist & hips were wider than those but when held tight it lacked nothing , correction #4
strange gap? lol this is a flaw how? this is you knitpicking for ' flaws ' correction #5
Shallow chest LMFAO just plain retarded

need anything else corrected? please let me know .

1993 Dorian was above and beyond anything the sport has shown even to this day .

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #326 on: November 27, 2008, 02:48:50 PM »
small arms lmao

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #327 on: November 27, 2008, 02:49:19 PM »
LMFAO small arms , biceps maybe , triceps & forearms were NOT small , correction #1
calves to big for quads nonsense you're to used to looking at the small calves Levrone sported and think thats how they're supposed to be , correction #2
quads lacked cuts , more nonsense , he did tear the quad in 94 so this does obscure the development some what but before that all of the muscles of the quads were fully developed and defined , correction #3
wide waist? relative to who? a 205 pound Shawn Ray and a 225 Pound Flex Wheeler? his waist & hips were wider than those but when held tight it lacked nothing , correction #4
strange gap? lol this is a flaw how? this is you knitpicking for ' flaws ' correction #5
Shallow chest LMFAO just plain retarded

need anything else corrected? please let me know .

1993 Dorian was above and beyond anything the sport has shown even to this day .


Meltdown haha this is the same clown who previously said that Schwarzenegger was better. Massive self-ownage.

His hero Schwarzenegger who specifically criticized Yates in the 90s for a "weightlifter" physique that "wasn't what BB should be" hahahahaa

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #328 on: November 27, 2008, 02:52:17 PM »

Meltdown haha this is the same clown who previously said that Schwarzenegger was better.

Thanks for following me yet again  ;) and not sticking to the topic  ;) and not even being able to formulate a cognizant reply  ;)

Schwarzenegger is the best Mr Olympia for many reasons , he obviously doesn't have the best Olympia physique ever for many reasons , whenever you want to debate ( which you're scared of ) instead of making personal attacks let me know

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #329 on: November 27, 2008, 02:54:58 PM »

Meltdown haha this is the same clown who previously said that Schwarzenegger was better.

His hero Schwarzenegger who specifically criticized Yates in the 90s for a "weightlifter" physique that "wasn't what BB should be" hahahahaa

Why do you always change your posts?  ??? anyway stop propagating this lie that Arnold attacked Yates' physique he was critical of Yates' personality and what he precieved as him not doing enough to promote the sport . I can post the quotes if you'd like and own you even more?

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #330 on: November 27, 2008, 02:56:44 PM »

Meltdown haha this is the same clown who previously said that Schwarzenegger was better. Massive self-ownage.

His hero Schwarzenegger who specifically criticized Yates in the 90s for a "weightlifter" physique that "wasn't what BB should be" hahahahaa

hideous physique.  :-X
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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #331 on: November 27, 2008, 02:56:48 PM »
Why do you always change your posts?  ??? anyway stop propagating this lie that Arnold attacked Yates' physique he was critical of Yates' personality and what he precieved as him not doing enough to promote the sport . I can post the quotes if you'd like and own you even more?
No, he criticized the physique as well-Schwarzenegger always did that with rivals, such as Mentzer and Yates. Didn't really work psychologically in either case.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #332 on: November 27, 2008, 02:57:27 PM »
small arms
calves too big for his quads
quads lacked cuts
wide waist
strange gap between lower part of inner chest
somewhat shallow chest

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Its sad but all of this true

1. Yes his arms were small - for his torso. For every one "good" pic nd posts there 10 bad ones or ones that refute his claims. Meaning = dorians arms were small. A couple of choice pics wont do it ND.
2. Incorrect. His quads weren't big enough for his calves. Shame
3. Lacked cuts yes. Its not the only thing lacking. Shape was missing, and delineated muscles that almost every bodybuilder had but dorian didnt for some strange reason. Good sartorius however
4. Undeniable. Despite nd idolizing reeves, a torch bearer for narrow hips and waist, he conveniently ignores its absence on yates
5. im glad someone finally pointed it out. Not such a weakness but it does point to poor insertions. See biceps for further evidence
6. Shallow simply because of the thickness of his abs and stomach which became chronic later on in his career.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #333 on: November 27, 2008, 02:58:40 PM »
No, he criticized the physique as well-Schwarzenegger always did that with rivals, such as Mentzer and Yates. Didn't really work psychologically in either case.

No he didn't stop lying , he bitched about the way the guys dressed , the fact there were NO personalities in the sport like when he competed , the fact that Yates wasn't doing enough to promote bodybuilding and the fact he won the title and returned back to England he didn't disparage his physique in the least you're a liar plain & simple


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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #334 on: November 27, 2008, 02:59:19 PM »
No he didn't stop lying , he bitched about the way the guys dressed , the fact there were NO personalities in the sport like when he competed , the fact that Yates wasn't doing enough to promote bodybuilding and the fact he won the title and returned back to England he didn't disparage his physique in the least you're a liar plain & simple



Wake up, this has been discussed on getbig. No one argued about it, overcome your denial. I remember the comments in the mag well myself. Deal with it.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #335 on: November 27, 2008, 03:00:26 PM »
LMFAO small arms , biceps maybe , triceps & forearms were NOT small , correction #1
calves to big for quads nonsense you're to used to looking at the small calves Levrone sported and think thats how they're supposed to be , correction #2
quads lacked cuts , more nonsense , he did tear the quad in 94 so this does obscure the development some what but before that all of the muscles of the quads were fully developed and defined , correction #3
wide waist? relative to who? a 205 pound Shawn Ray and a 225 Pound Flex Wheeler? his waist & hips were wider than those but when held tight it lacked nothing , correction #4
strange gap? lol this is a flaw how? this is you knitpicking for ' flaws ' correction #5
Shallow chest LMFAO just plain retarded

need anything else corrected? please let me know .

1993 Dorian was above and beyond anything the sport has shown even to this day .

no i can make the corrections

yes his arms too small in comparison with his upper body, nobody gives a shit about forearms as long as they aren't too small

no they did not have deep cuts, show me a pic that shows the cuts his competion had

yes he had a wide waist, holding a waist tight doesn't mean you don't have a wide waist

the gap in his chest makes his chest look worse, how could you not think of that as a structural flaw, makes his hands clasped most muscular look goofy

his chest looked like two pancakes, the wide waist made his chest look worse

93 dorian was the dagger in the heart of this once proud sport :-*

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #336 on: November 27, 2008, 03:01:16 PM »
small arms lmao

for every good arm pic of dorian, there are 10 bad ones

edit: just noticed "sculpture" said the same thing haha

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #337 on: November 27, 2008, 03:01:56 PM »
The original H-taper.

Smallish but very cut tris-fools novices into thinking there was size there.

Forearms unimportant-see Schwarzenegger and Coleman forearms. Bis forgeddaboudit.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #338 on: November 27, 2008, 03:09:28 PM »

Its sad but all of this true

1. Yes his arms were small - for his torso. For every one "good" pic nd posts there 10 bad ones or ones that refute his claims. Meaning = dorians arms were small. A couple of choice pics wont do it ND.
2. Incorrect. His quads weren't big enough for his calves. Shame
3. Lacked cuts yes. Its not the only thing lacking. Shape was missing, and delineated muscles that almost every bodybuilder had but dorian didnt for some strange reason. Good sartorius however
4. Undeniable. Despite nd idolizing reeves, a torch bearer for narrow hips and waist, he conveniently ignores its absence on yates
5. im glad someone finally pointed it out. Not such a weakness but it does point to poor insertions. See biceps for further evidence
6. Shallow simply because of the thickness of his abs and stomach which became chronic later on in his career.

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1. Yes his arms were small - for his torso. For every one "good" pic nd posts there 10 bad ones or ones that refute his claims. Meaning = dorians arms were small. A couple of choice pics wont do it ND.

Arms include forearms which were NOT small , and triceps , again NOT small and they weren't small of his torso AT HIS BEST pay attention to that in caps , at times his biceps were small etc but his ARMS weren't small thats a lie

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2. Incorrect. His quads weren't big enough for his calves. Shame

Nonsense , his quads were big enough AT HIS BEST

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3. Lacked cuts yes. Its not the only thing lacking. Shape was missing, and delineated muscles that almost every bodybuilder had but dorian didnt for some strange reason. Good sartorius however

The ONLY problem with Dorian's quads were the pre-tear was the development of the rectus-femoris which wasn't as sharp as others , the rest of his quads were fine AT HIS BEST

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4. Undeniable. Despite nd idolizing reeves, a torch bearer for narrow hips and waist, he conveniently ignores its absence on yates

I never ignored it , in fact I've said he does have wide hips especially next to lighter guys it's all relative the only other guy I can think of with a narrow waist & hips at around the same weight was Ronnie , his waist & hips were wide sure , did it prevent his front latspread from being the best ever? NO or how about his standing relaxed? NO

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5. im glad someone finally pointed it out. Not such a weakness but it does point to poor insertions. See biceps for further evidence

I'm glad you admit it's not a weakness its reaching for an angle

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6. Shallow simply because of the thickness of his abs and stomach which became chronic later on in his career

His chest wasn't shallow that's simple not true , regardless his his gut was problematic his chest wasn't shallow that's simply not true

look everyone has flaws that's a reality HOWEVER how contests are judged Dorian 1993 was the most complete bodybuilder up until then and since

Muscular Bulk - check
Muscle density - check
Muscle dryness - check
Muscle balance - check
Muscle proportion - check
Posing & presentation - check
Completness - check


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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #339 on: November 27, 2008, 03:10:08 PM »
for every good arm pic of dorian, there are 10 bad ones

edit: just noticed "sculpture" said the same thing haha

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You missed the key word AT HIS BEST  ;)

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #340 on: November 27, 2008, 03:11:08 PM »
Wake up, this has been discussed on getbig. No one argued about it, overcome your denial. I remember the comments in the mag well myself. Deal with it.

I have the mag shall I post the article to own your dumbass again?  ;)

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #341 on: November 27, 2008, 03:14:14 PM »
Arms include forearms which were NOT small , and triceps , again NOT small and they weren't small of his torso AT HIS BEST pay attention to that in caps , at times his biceps were small etc but his ARMS weren't small thats a lie

Nonsense , his quads were big enough AT HIS BEST

The ONLY problem with Dorian's quads were the pre-tear was the development of the rectus-femoris which wasn't as sharp as others , the rest of his quads were fine AT HIS BEST

I never ignored it , in fact I've said he does have wide hips especially next to lighter guys it's all relative the only other guy I can think of with a narrow waist & hips at around the same weight was Ronnie , his waist & hips were wide sure , did it prevent his front latspread from being the best ever? NO or how about his standing relaxed? NO

I'm glad you admit it's not a weakness its reaching for an angle

His chest wasn't shallow that's simple not true , regardless his his gut was problematic his chest wasn't shallow that's simply not true

look everyone has flaws that's a reality HOWEVER how contests are judged Dorian 1993 was the most complete bodybuilder up until then and since

Muscular Bulk - check
Muscle density - check
Muscle dryness - check
Muscle balance - check
Muscle proportion - check
Posing & presentation - check
Completness - check



Pictures do not lie

Why you see something different from practically anyone else is beyond me.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #342 on: November 27, 2008, 03:14:29 PM »
The original H-taper.

Smallish but very cut tris-fools novices into thinking there was size there.

Forearms unimportant-see Schwarzenegger and Coleman forearms. Bis forgeddaboudit.

Where is this h-taper? yeah I thought so  ;)

smallish  ::) my ass what is better having bigger albeit less cut tris like Coleman?

Forearms are important , it helps with arm balance & proportion  something that doesn't matter to you but it does to judges


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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #343 on: November 27, 2008, 03:17:04 PM »
Pictures do not lie

Why you see something different from practically anyone else is beyond me.

Pictures don't tell the whole story thats old news

and again I said at times Dorians biceps were to small , at times his gut was out of control , etc , HOWEVER at his best Dorian in for all intent & purposes flawless and complete


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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #344 on: November 27, 2008, 03:21:49 PM »
This physique lacks nothing it meets ALL of the IFBB judging criteria

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #345 on: November 27, 2008, 04:02:49 PM »
these are his best pics but i stand by the flaws i pointed out

that gap is a major genetic flaw



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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #346 on: November 27, 2008, 04:07:17 PM »
these are his best pics but i stand by the flaws i pointed out

that gap is a major genetic flaw



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LMFAO that ' gap ' is you reaching very hard for anything that brings Yates down to the mere mortal status of Levrone lol

keep trying for all intents &N purposes Yates in 1993 is flawless

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #347 on: November 27, 2008, 04:07:27 PM »
This physique lacks nothing it meets ALL of the IFBB judging criteria

All of those shots confirm that he had virtually no detail or cuts on upper body from the front! So smooth you could skate on it.

And the arms are completely overwhelmed by delts and boxy waist. His side-tri is misleading, because compared to someone like Coleman he knows how to pose it properly. Here're pics a pic against Levrone who knew how to pose, the keg's tris and arms lookin small!  ;D


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Retards are reality-challenged.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #348 on: November 27, 2008, 04:08:58 PM »
93, wasnt Flex Wheeler in that mr O? Didnt Jim Quinn have an interesting fact on him?

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #349 on: November 27, 2008, 04:09:28 PM »
All of those shots confirm that he had virtually no cuts on upper body from the front!

You see what you want , and what you failed to take into account is Yates looks much better in person than he does in pics  ;)