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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #750 on: December 04, 2008, 08:40:54 AM »
If Ronnie were truly superior, then one would have expected his victories to have had an even greater margin of victory than those of Dorian's reign.  History proves that Dorian won by a much greater margin against the same top competitors, who were arguably in better condition while competing against Dorian.  How is it that as the quality of the competition diminished, Ronnie could not win in a more convincing fashion than that of the champion that preceded him?

you cannot score any better than straight firsts, dipshit. Most experts consider Ronnie's prime to be either the 01 ASC or 03 Mr. Olympia. Both contests were the most clear-cut victories of all-time.

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The 1995 clip of Dorian has the Coleman faithful running scared.  Too afraid to confront the truth.

Dorian was great in 95, but peak Ronnie was better. ;)

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #751 on: December 04, 2008, 08:42:41 AM »
If Ronnie were truly superior, then one would have expected his victories to have had an even greater margin of victory than those of Dorian's reign.  History proves that Dorian won by a much greater margin against the same top competitors, who were arguably in better condition while competing against Dorian.  How is it that as the quality of the competition diminished, Ronnie could not win in a more convincing fashion than that of the champion that preceded him? 

The 1995 clip of Dorian has the Coleman faithful running scared.  Too afraid to confront the truth.


hahahaha, of course it does. :D

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #752 on: December 04, 2008, 10:26:13 AM »
sorry kiddo, but the pics clearly show he's wrong. You can keep your fallible testimony. I will rely on infallible visual evidence. ;)

No it doesn't YOU are again mistaken wrinkles for loose skin , I clearly showed you there is NO wrinkles or loose skin when he shows his x-mass tree , if there was it wouldn't be that highly defined and razor sharp

you're proved dead wrong by an IFBB judge and by me , I know it pains you to be proven dead wrong again by me but it doesn't changes the facts kid.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #753 on: December 04, 2008, 10:36:37 AM »
you cannot score any better than straight firsts, dipshit. Most experts consider Ronnie's prime to be either the 01 ASC or 03 Mr. Olympia. Both contests were the most clear-cut victories of all-time.

Dorian was great in 95, but peak Ronnie was better. ;)

LMFAO still sticking to that story 2003 was his prime? prove it  ;) 1998/2001 NOT 2003 sorry sport , wrong yet again and how did you come to the conclusion they were the most clear-cut victories? your delusion knows no bounds

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As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.


you remember this quote? you should this is the one you manipulated  ;)

Ronnie on PBW Ronnie what was your best Olympia? Ronnie Coleman : I would have to say my first because my conditioning was spot-on

Where are the quotes backing up your claim 2003 was his prime showing? you're a dunce if you think that's his best

his conditioning sucks compared to 01/98 NEVERMIND Dorian his balance & proportion suck compared to 01/98 NEVERMIND Dorian

Wayne Demilla " I've said to Ronnie , " What you've got to realize is that in 98-99 you were probably in the best proportion you could be for your frame . Those muscles have gotten bigger. Just cos you're bigger , doesn't make you better . "

you have nothing as usual .


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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #754 on: December 04, 2008, 10:38:53 AM »
LMFAO still sticking to that story 2003 was his prime? prove it  ;) 1998/2001 NOT 2003 sorry sport , wrong yet again and how did you come to the conclusion they were the most clear-cut victories? your delusion knows no bounds

Shawn Perine Ironage Dec 11, 2004

As much as I love Haney and my IA champs, I think Ronnie circa '98 or at the 2001 Arnold is pretty much untouchable. Except by Dorian Yates 6 weeks out from the '93 O as photographed by our own KMH. Both men, on those specific occasions carried so much dry muscle mass in good proportion and with good lines that it's almost unfair to compare them to others.


you remember this quote? you should this is the one you manipulated  ;)

Ronnie on PBW Ronnie what was your best Olympia? Ronnie Coleman : I would have to say my first because my conditioning was spot-on

Where are the quotes backing up your claim 2003 was his prime showing? you're a dunce if you think that's his best

his conditioning sucks compared to 01/98 NEVERMIND Dorian his balance & proportion suck compared to 01/98 NEVERMIND Dorian

Wayne Demilla " I've said to Ronnie , " What you've got to realize is that in 98-99 you were probably in the best proportion you could be for your frame . Those muscles have gotten bigger. Just cos you're bigger , doesn't make you better . "

you have nothing as usual .



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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #755 on: December 04, 2008, 10:42:12 AM »


The Coleman faithful have had every opportunity to post a video to refute the overwhelming evidence that Dorian is dryer and more conditioned, yet have failed to do so.  I suspect that if they were actually capable, they would have long ago. 

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #756 on: December 04, 2008, 10:53:45 AM »


The Coleman faithful have had every opportunity to post a video to refute the overwhelming evidence that Dorian is dryer and more conditioned, yet have failed to do so.  I suspect that if they were actually capable, they would have long ago. 


Ronnie was NEVER harder or drier than Dorian , Neo picks 03 as the version that would beat Dorian lol the kid is just an awe struck fan-boy who bought all the BS in Muscular Development magazine

fact - Ronnie's balance & proportion in 03 were at among their all-time worse ( never mind compared to Dorian )

fact- Ronnie's density & dryness are at among their worse , especially compared to 2001/1998 ( never mind compared to Dorian )

fact - his posing & presentation sucked as usual ( never mind compared to Dorian )

fact - NO credible worthwhile knowledgeable person says 2003 is the absolute best Ronnie Coleman has looked , they all reference 1998/2001 for the above mentioned reasons

the kid is just crushed , look at the delusion , Dorian has loose skin , 03 is his best , Ronnie's wins in 01/03 were some how more clear cut victories than Dorians LMFAO

At 2 p.m. on 11 September 1993 he walked out onstage at the Civic Auditorium in Atlanta, Georgia. He weighed 257 lb. His skin looked as if it had been painted directly on to his muscle. He was stone hard and grainy. Every detail of every body part punched out into the first ten rows. No man had ever looked quite like Dorian Yates looked that day: he looked big. He looked bad He looked sick. There was  no Mr. Olympia contest.The judges saw no need to call him out for comparisons during the muscularity round.

' I knew then, ' he would say, ten years later, ' that I was either first or last. And I wasn't fucking last. '

Eventually Wayne Demilia asked him to step forward between Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler, just the audience could marvel at him some more. Samir Bannout looked at the three of them and said ' Dorian is first, second and third. '



This is the most dominating Olympia performance in the history of the sport , NO NEED to call him out in the muscularity round lol did this happen in 2001? NO did this happen in 2003? NO did this happen in 1998? NO

Neo is owned again


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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #757 on: December 04, 2008, 10:55:49 AM »
Ronnie was NEVER harder or drier than Dorian , Neo picks 03 as the version that would beat Dorian lol the kid is just an awe struck fan-boy who bought all the BS in Muscular Development magazine

fact - Ronnie's balance & proportion in 03 were at among their all-time worse ( never mind compared to Dorian )

fact- Ronnie's density & dryness are at among their worse , especially compared to 2001/1998 ( never mind compared to Dorian )

fact - his posing & presentation sucked as usual ( never mind compared to Dorian )

fact - NO credible worthwhile knowledgeable person says 2003 is the absolute best Ronnie Coleman has looked , they all reference 1998/2001 for the above mentioned reasons

the kid is just crushed , look at the delusion , Dorian has loose skin , 03 is his best , Ronnie's wins in 01/03 were some how more clear cut victories than Dorians LMFAO

At 2 p.m. on 11 September 1993 he walked out onstage at the Civic Auditorium in Atlanta, Georgia. He weighed 257 lb. His skin looked as if it had been painted directly on to his muscle. He was stone hard and grainy. Every detail of every body part punched out into the first ten rows. No man had ever looked quite like Dorian Yates looked that day: he looked big. He looked bad He looked sick. There was  no Mr. Olympia contest.The judges saw no need to call him out for comparisons during the muscularity round.

' I knew then, ' he would say, ten years later, ' that I was either first or last. And I wasn't fucking last. '

Eventually Wayne Demilia asked him to step forward between Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler, just the audience could marvel at him some more. Samir Bannout looked at the three of them and said ' Dorian is first, second and third. '



This is the most dominating Olympia performance in the history of the sport , NO NEED to call him out in the muscularity round lol did this happen in 2001? NO did this happen in 2003? NO did this happen in 1998? NO

Neo is owned again




You should go into writing political ad campaigns  ;D
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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #758 on: December 04, 2008, 10:57:43 AM »

At 2 p.m. on 11 September 1993 he walked out onstage at the Civic Auditorium in Atlanta, Georgia. He weighed 257 lb. His skin looked as if it had been painted directly on to his muscle. He was stone hard and grainy. Every detail of every body part punched out into the first ten rows. No man had ever looked quite like Dorian Yates looked that day: he looked big. He looked bad He looked sick. There was  no Mr. Olympia contest.The judges saw no need to call him out for comparisons during the muscularity round.

' I knew then, ' he would say, ten years later, ' that I was either first or last. And I wasn't fucking last. '

Eventually Wayne Demilia asked him to step forward between Shawn Ray and Flex Wheeler, just the audience could marvel at him some more. Samir Bannout looked at the three of them and said ' Dorian is first, second and third. '



This is the most dominating Olympia performance in the history of the sport , NO NEED to call him out in the muscularity round lol did this happen in 2001? NO did this happen in 2003? NO did this happen in 1998? NO

Neo is owned again



There has never been a contest where such utter dominance has been displayed in such manner before, or since the 1993 Mr. Olympia.  Awesome!

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #759 on: December 04, 2008, 11:08:39 AM »
No it doesn't YOU are again mistaken wrinkles for loose skin , I clearly showed you there is NO wrinkles or loose skin when he shows his x-mass tree , if there was it wouldn't be that highly defined and razor sharp

no shit, dumbass. That's b/c he's stretching his skin when he shows his Christmas tree. An old person can make their saggy skin disappear if they stretch it out. Damn, you're pretty dumb. If Dorian didn't have loose skin, then it wouldn't show in other poses.






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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #760 on: December 04, 2008, 11:10:53 AM »
LMFAO still sticking to that story 2003 was his prime? prove it 1998/2001 NOT 2003 sorry sport , wrong yet again and how did you come to the conclusion they were the most clear-cut victories? your delusion knows no bounds

yawn ::)

IFBB Website - History of the Mr. Olympia

"The night (October 25, 2003) was Ronnie's. Whatever doubt people had was dispelled as soon as Ronnie hit the stage. He was in his best shape ever, at 39 years old."

http://www.ifbbpro.com/history-of-the-mr-olympia/4/

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

"Everyone was in awe. I almost bit my tongue a number of times sitting in the crowd watching him. I never ever imagined a human being could look like that. People were just shaking their heads"

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Milos Sarcev - European Flex, April 2004

"I will never forget (October 25th 2003) the moment when Ronnie first stepped on the stage, because it seemed that all sense of time had stopped for a moment. Everyone was in a state of complete shock, and an eerie silence was broken only by the whispers of sheer disbelief! No human EVER looked like that! EVER!"

"Reportedly, he weighed in around 290 pounds at a height of 5' 11", and it is my guess that he was actually below 3% body fat! His conditioning was simply superb, and his muscle mass absolutely unmatched… I realized then and there that Ronnie Coleman was simply unbeatable!"

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=237938.0

Hollis Liebman - Former Fitness Editor and IFBB Official

"The era of the big man would commence with Lee Haney (1984-1991), whose formidable torso would dominate the lineup for 8 straight years and was then elevated by Dorian Yates (1992-1997), whose back and overall conditioning upped the ante yet again until an alien named Ronnie Coleman (1998-2005), in all likelihood the greatest bodybuilder of all time, would redefine the sport bringing a near 300 pound contest ready physique to the stage."

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=238675.0

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #761 on: December 04, 2008, 11:14:26 AM »
yawn ::)

IFBB Website - History of the Mr. Olympia

"The night (October 25, 2003) was Ronnie's. Whatever doubt people had was dispelled as soon as Ronnie hit the stage. He was in his best shape ever, at 39 years old."

http://www.ifbbpro.com/history-of-the-mr-olympia/4/

Cling to that belief if you wish, but it doesn't change the fact 2003 Ronnie is made to look positively soft by 1995 Yates.  Or by any version of Yates for that matter, despite Ronnie having a guru to hold his hand.





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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #762 on: December 04, 2008, 11:22:56 AM »
Cling to that belief if you wish, but it doesn't change the fact 2003 Ronnie is made to look positively soft by 1995 Yates.  Or by any version of Yates for that matter, despite Ronnie having a guru to hold his hand.

"positively soft?" Yeah, okaay buddy. You weren't even there. ;)

Mike Matarazzo - Flex, January 2004

"Ronnie had so much dense muscle that it looked as though his skin could no longer hold it and he'd explode. His quads were so full and dense, they don't look real. He's an amazing individual, an amazing athlete. He's just a freak."

Milos Sarcev - European Flex, April 2004

"Reportedly, he weighed in around 290 pounds at a height of 5' 11", and it is my guess that he was actually below 3% body fat! His conditioning was simply superb, and his muscle mass absolutely unmatched… I realized then and there that Ronnie Coleman was simply unbeatable!"

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #763 on: December 04, 2008, 11:49:27 AM »
"positively soft?" Yeah, okaay buddy. You weren't even there. ;)

Mike Matarazzo - Flex, January 2004

"Ronnie had so much dense muscle that it looked as though his skin could no longer hold it and he'd explode. His quads were so full and dense, they don't look real. He's an amazing individual, an amazing athlete. He's just a freak."

Milos Sarcev - European Flex, April 2004

"Reportedly, he weighed in around 290 pounds at a height of 5' 11", and it is my guess that he was actually below 3% body fat! His conditioning was simply superb, and his muscle mass absolutely unmatched… I realized then and there that Ronnie Coleman was simply unbeatable!"

Why would I need to have been there? lol  My comments where based upon a comparison of the videos posted of 2003 Ronnie and 1995 Yates.  You can quote all of the comments you wish, but none of them refutes the visual evidence posted, nor touches upon such a comparison in any form.  Any quotes touting Ronnie as unbeatable were phrased within the context of the 2003 contest itself.  Ronnie may have looked good in comparison to his competition in 2003 and been unbeatable for them on that night, but luckily for him, Yates was not onstage, or he would have been made to look very soft, just as is the case with the videos.  You can't refute that Ronnie is made to look soft by Yates, you just keep grasping at straws, all to no avail.  If you truly wanted to debate conditioning, most people would be smart enough to at least try compare 1998 Ronnie, but not you.  You cling to 2003, which only worsens the case for your hero.  You're all hat, and no cattle.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #764 on: December 04, 2008, 11:50:08 AM »
Why would I need to have been there? lol  My comments where based upon a comparison of the videos posted of 2003 Ronnie and 1995 Yates.

b/c your opinion is based on a small YouTube video with limited quality even though people who saw both in person disagree with you. ;)

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #765 on: December 04, 2008, 11:57:49 AM »
Any quotes touting Ronnie as unbeatable were phrased within the context of the 2003 contest itself.

keep lying, idiot. That's all the Dorian nuthuggers seem to do. ;)

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

"Everyone was in awe. I almost bit my tongue a number of times sitting in the crowd watching him. I never ever imagined a human being could look like that. People were just shaking their heads"

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Milos Sarcev - European Flex, April 2004

"I will never forget (October 25th 2003) the moment when Ronnie first stepped on the stage, because it seemed that all sense of time had stopped for a moment. Everyone was in a state of complete shock, and an eerie silence was broken only by the whispers of sheer disbelief! No human EVER looked like that! EVER!"

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=237938.0

Hollis Liebman - Former Fitness Editor and IFBB Official

"The era of the big man would commence with Lee Haney (1984-1991), whose formidable torso would dominate the lineup for 8 straight years and was then elevated by Dorian Yates (1992-1997), whose back and overall conditioning upped the ante yet again until an alien named Ronnie Coleman (1998-2005), in all likelihood the greatest bodybuilder of all time, would redefine the sport bringing a near 300 pound contest ready physique to the stage."

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=238675.0

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #766 on: December 04, 2008, 12:56:25 PM »
Just answer a simple question Neo.  In the vids posted of 2003 Ronnie and 1995 Yates, who is showing the better crisper conditioning?  It's a simple question, stop avoiding it and just answer it.





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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #767 on: December 04, 2008, 01:20:40 PM »
Just answer a simple question Neo.  In the vids posted of 2003 Ronnie and 1995 Yates, who is showing the better crisper conditioning? It's a simple question, stop avoiding it and just answer it.

I'm not avoiding anything. You're just asking a really dumb question. It would be like me asking you "who was bigger?" I never said 03 Ronnie had better conditioning than 95 Dorian - ever. So I'm not sure what the purpose of your question is. I've always maintained that Ronnie's combination of size, symmetry, separations and striations, shape, taper, and fullness would beat Dorian.

by the way, that's a crappy video you posted of Ronnie. I used to have a better one of 03 Ronnie but it was taken down by YouTube for copyright reasons.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #768 on: December 04, 2008, 01:38:32 PM »
no shit, dumbass. That's b/c he's stretching his skin when he shows his Christmas tree. An old person can make their saggy skin disappear if they stretch it out. Damn, you're pretty dumb. If Dorian didn't have loose skin, then it wouldn't show in other poses.



idiot loose skin becoming tight is an oxymoron , look Yates owned you again as did I , I know you're a proud man but you're dummy , no loose skin sorry . who's opinion shall we believe?  one of the sports most knowledgeable professionals who is a six-time Mr Olympia winner who is known for his insane conditioning or Neoseminole? a ' certified personal trainer' ? lol

give it up with this angle you're soundly proven wrong AGAIN







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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #769 on: December 04, 2008, 01:50:43 PM »
yawn ::)

IFBB Website - History of the Mr. Olympia

"The night (October 25, 2003) was Ronnie's. Whatever doubt people had was dispelled as soon as Ronnie hit the stage. He was in his best shape ever, at 39 years old."

http://www.ifbbpro.com/history-of-the-mr-olympia/4/

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

"Everyone was in awe. I almost bit my tongue a number of times sitting in the crowd watching him. I never ever imagined a human being could look like that. People were just shaking their heads"

Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

Milos Sarcev - European Flex, April 2004

"I will never forget (October 25th 2003) the moment when Ronnie first stepped on the stage, because it seemed that all sense of time had stopped for a moment. Everyone was in a state of complete shock, and an eerie silence was broken only by the whispers of sheer disbelief! No human EVER looked like that! EVER!"

"Reportedly, he weighed in around 290 pounds at a height of 5' 11", and it is my guess that he was actually below 3% body fat! His conditioning was simply superb, and his muscle mass absolutely unmatched… I realized then and there that Ronnie Coleman was simply unbeatable!"

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=237938.0

Hollis Liebman - Former Fitness Editor and IFBB Official

"The era of the big man would commence with Lee Haney (1984-1991), whose formidable torso would dominate the lineup for 8 straight years and was then elevated by Dorian Yates (1992-1997), whose back and overall conditioning upped the ante yet again until an alien named Ronnie Coleman (1998-2005), in all likelihood the greatest bodybuilder of all time, would redefine the sport bringing a near 300 pound contest ready physique to the stage."

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=238675.0

Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

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yawn ::)

IFBB Website - History of the Mr. Olympia

"The night (October 25, 2003) was Ronnie's. Whatever doubt people had was dispelled as soon as Ronnie hit the stage. He was in his best shape ever, at 39 years old."

http://www.ifbbpro.com/history-of-the-mr-olympia/4/

This is the ONLY quote I ever seen that said 03 was his best ever , which is obviously wrong and why? his balance & proportion at it's all-time worse as is his density & dryness , in fact Ronnie himself said 1998 was his best  ;) among Perine , and McGough who picks 2001

Flex Wheeler - MD, February 2004

"I'll go on record as saying Ronnie is truly the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history. No disrespect to anybody at all, but I'd to identify Ronnie Coleman as the greatest Mr. Olympia of all time."

"Everyone was in awe. I almost bit my tongue a number of times sitting in the crowd watching him. I never ever imagined a human being could look like that. People were just shaking their heads"


NO WHERE does this say 2003 is his best showing thanks for playing dummy


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Paul Dillet - MD, February 2004

"Understand that if Ronnie walked away tomorrow, I do not think anyone can measure up to the standards he has set. Just like Sergio Oliva, an awesome bodybuilder way ahead of his time, and like Flex Wheeler, who had an absolutely perfect, beautiful physique. No one will match Serigo or Flex and now Ronnie."

NO WHERE does this say 2003 is his best showing thanks for playing dummy

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John Hansen, 2x Mr. Natural Universe and Mr. Natural Olympia - Personal Website

"It would be safe to say that [Ronnie Coleman] presented a physique that has never been seen by the bodybuilding world ever before. Competing at an incredibly massive 287 pounds, Ronnie destroyed the competition with a physique that could not possibly be equaled."

NO WHERE does this say 2003 was his best showing thanks for playing dummy

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Ryan Mackie - A Fan Perspective: My 2003 Olympia Experience (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Everyone could see that at 287 pounds this was Ronnie's night and that he was back on top of his game and furthermore bodybuilding had just seen the bar of excellence raised even further. Just like Dorian Yates did in 1993 when he set a new standard, Ronnie has now taken it even further leaving all his competitors wonder what they have to do to now catch Ronnie Coleman, let alone beat him."

NO WHERE does it say 2003 was his best showing thanks for playing dummy

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Milos Sarcev - European Flex, April 2004

"I will never forget (October 25th 2003) the moment when Ronnie first stepped on the stage, because it seemed that all sense of time had stopped for a moment. Everyone was in a state of complete shock, and an eerie silence was broken only by the whispers of sheer disbelief! No human EVER looked like that! EVER!"

"Reportedly, he weighed in around 290 pounds at a height of 5' 11", and it is my guess that he was actually below 3% body fat! His conditioning was simply superb, and his muscle mass absolutely unmatched… I realized then and there that Ronnie Coleman was simply unbeatable!"

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=237938.0

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Hollis Liebman - Former Fitness Editor and IFBB Official

"The era of the big man would commence with Lee Haney (1984-1991), whose formidable torso would dominate the lineup for 8 straight years and was then elevated by Dorian Yates (1992-1997), whose back and overall conditioning upped the ante yet again until an alien named Ronnie Coleman (1998-2005), in all likelihood the greatest bodybuilder of all time, would redefine the sport bringing a near 300 pound contest ready physique to the stage."

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=238675.0

NO WHERE does it say 2003 was his best showing thanks for playing dummy

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Shawn Ray – 2003 Year in Review (Hosted on Bodybuilding.com)

"Ridiculous" Ronnie Coleman would win his 6th Sandow Trophy in a row looking absolutely ridiculous! This guy was from another planet! Ronnie added about a million pounds of muscle from the previous year and squashed the competition on sheer MASS! Unbelievable is what Ronnie was this night!"

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NO WHERE does it say 2003 was his best showing thanks for playing dummy



Neo you're a failure , you posted many quotes and ONLY ONE says 2003 was his best ever , which is laughable it contradicts reality . you post all those other quotes and not fucking one of them says 2003 is his best showing ever , the vast majority say 1998/2001 I could avalanche you with these quotes but we both know it already  ;)

another backfired thread by boy-Neo lol

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #770 on: December 04, 2008, 01:54:36 PM »
I'm not avoiding anything. You're just asking a really dumb question. It would be like me asking you "who was bigger?" I never said 03 Ronnie had better conditioning than 95 Dorian - ever. So I'm not sure what the purpose of your question is. I've always maintained that Ronnie's combination of size, symmetry, separations and striations, shape, taper, and fullness would beat Dorian.

by the way, that's a crappy video you posted of Ronnie. I used to have a better one of 03 Ronnie but it was taken down by YouTube for copyright reasons.

Bull shit you said on multiple occasions Ronnie 03 was better conditioned than Dorian period. until I proved you wrong again . you said on many occasions that an MD would tell you Ronnie is better conditioned lol


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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #771 on: December 04, 2008, 01:59:17 PM »
Bull shit you said on multiple occasions Ronnie 03 was better conditioned than Dorian period. until I proved you wrong again . you said on many occasions that an MD would tell you Ronnie is better conditioned lol



In light of the above, I guess I don't have to bother responding to your question Neo, it appears that you have already gotten the appropriate response.  I forced you into a corner with the vids to the point where you had to back peddle and admit to Yates being better conditioned.  At least you were finally honest about something.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #772 on: December 04, 2008, 01:59:30 PM »
This is the ONLY quote I ever seen that said 03 was his best ever , which is obviously wrong and why? his balance & proportion at it's all-time worse as is his density & dryness , in fact Ronnie himself said 1998 was his best  ;) among Perine , and McGough who picks 2001

This just shows even when your half right your still wrong

Are you suggesting his 03 form was WORSE than his 2004 form?

Surely not even you can be that simple.

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #773 on: December 04, 2008, 04:34:35 PM »
This just shows even when your half right your still wrong

Are you suggesting his 03 form was WORSE than his 2004 form?

Surely not even you can be that simple.

I'm not wrong at all , 03 was better condition wise and not by much , balance & proportion still atrocious .

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Re: 1993 - best ever!
« Reply #774 on: December 04, 2008, 04:55:15 PM »
I'm not wrong at all , 03 was better condition wise and not by much , balance & proportion still atrocious .

Coleman had much better balace and proportion than this abortion.