1993 - best ever!

[Hulkster]

brutal excuses! just brutal ! either photoshop, or lighting is better 

see how pathetic ND and his nuthuggers are?

[NarcissisticDeity]

both of which are good friends with Yates LOL

 

if the screencaps were 'tampered with' then why does ronnie's phyisque look exactly the same as it does in all the videos?

 

it doesn't matter what matters is ? you're BUSTED and FYI idiot BIZZY admitted to tampering with pics YOU HAVE NOTHING

[NarcissisticDeity]

I know. pathetic, isn't it?

Bizzy, ForcedReps and Iceman all made screencaps and they ALL had slightly different colour.

ND can't get it through his head that slight colour differences are an artifact of different sources and different people making the screenshots.

ronnie's phyisque looks exactly the same in ALL of them...

 

LMFAO slight ' colour ' changes my ass sharpening tool and adjusted brightness & contrast to make Ronnie appear better than he was PERIOD

and bizzy is iceman's gimmick

[Hulkster]

why do you keep saying that Bizzy tampered with the screenshots?

you don't get it: he admited to adjusting OTHER shots (that he TOLD US HE WAS DOING) NOT THOSE ONES MORON!

and he has publicly stated that the screenshots I keep posting ARE NOT TAMPERED WITH AT ALL.

what do you not understand about this statement?

 

you are just looking for any angle to form an excuse aren't you?

 

[ASJChaotic]

it doesn't matter what matters is ? you're BUSTED and FYI idiot BIZZY admitted to tampering with pics YOU HAVE NOTHING

Ronnie was better than Dorian 
get it through your head, I'm getting sick of even debating this.
It's a fact!  facts shouldn't be debated.

[Mr.1derful]

watch them ND and take note that ronnie's physique looks exactly the same as it does in the screencaps made by Bizzy, Forcedreps (although his second set was of much better quality) or anyone.

you are becoming the laughing stock of getbig with this shit

as MemberX is fast finding out, you just move from one excuse to the other in your effort to deny what Ronnie was in 1999:

much better than dorian ever was or could ever hope to be:

Ronnie 1999 did look good, but as has been mentioned before, his conditioning was better in 1998, even if he was a bit flatter, he was still sharper in 1998.  Now if the Coleman brigade wants to hold 1999 up as the penultimate Coleman physique, so be it.  However, there is still no question that even in his 1999 trim, his back had a film of water, that you absolutely will not find on 1995 Yates.  Yates was dryer, no doubt.  And as soon as Dorian begins to turn to the side, it's over for sure, as not even Ronnie can claim the kind of overall density as found on Yates.  There may be those inclined to prefer Ronnie's "look" or "shape", but he never out conditions Dorian, no matter what the year. It's actually laughable once you watch the videos back to back.  Dorian's back is razor sharp! Ronnie's, at least by comparison, is soft.

[NarcissisticDeity]

why do you keep saying that Bizzy tampered with the screenshots?

you don't get it: he admited to adjusting OTHER shots (that he TOLD US HE WAS DOING) NOT THOSE ONES MORON!

and he has publicly stated that the screenshots I keep posting ARE NOT TAMPERED WITH AT ALL.

what do you not understand about this statement?

 

you are just looking for any angle to form an excuse aren't you?

 

again this has NOTHING to do with Dorian and what's he going to say? he was still doing it? a professional graphic artist first busted YOU and your screencaps noticing Bizzy was using the sharpening tool , and then Kevin Horton noticed a damn big difference between the two and BUSTED you again

it's not open for discussion ANYTHING Bizzy posts is suspect period. and NONE of what he posted matches the high quality VHS scans from forcedreps or the many pictures I scanned and Muscletime

Bizzy = fraud and you're his willing accomplice

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie was better than Dorian 
get it through your head, I'm getting sick of even debating this.
It's a fact!  facts shouldn't be debated.

You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts 

it's a FACT Ronnie feels he could never beat Dorian

[NarcissisticDeity]

Ronnie 1999 did look good, but as has been mentioned before, his conditioning was better in 1998, even if he was a bit flatter, he was still sharper in 1998.  Now if the Coleman brigade wants to hold 1999 up as the penultimate Coleman physique, so be it.  However, there is still no question that even in his 1999 trim, his back had a film of water, that you absolutely will not find on 1995 Yates.  Yates was dryer, no doubt.  And as soon as Dorian begins to turn to the side, it's over for sure, as not even Ronnie can claim the kind of overall density as found on Yates.  There may be those inclined to prefer Ronnie's "look" or "shape", but he never out conditions Dorian, no matter what the year. It's actually laughable once you watch the videos back to back.  Dorian's back is razor sharp! Ronnie's, at least by comparison, is soft.

Right on the money

[ASJChaotic]

  


HOW is Dorian more conditioned than Ronnie?
hahahaha

is this the monster conditioning you guys are talking about? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

 


HOW is Dorian more conditioned than Ronnie?
hahahaha

is this the monster conditioning you guys are talking about? 

you think you would be able to ascertain one's conditioning via pictures? come on and I thought you were done debating this topic?

[ASJChaotic]

you think you would be able to ascertain one's conditioning via pictures? come on and I thought you were done debating this topic?

so we can't see a person's conditioning with pictures? 
I said I was sick of it, not done 

here is a conditioning you CAN see, if Yates had great conditioning we should be able to see it! 

[Mr.1derful]

so we can't see a person's conditioning with pictures? 
I said I was sick of it, not done 

here is a conditioning you CAN see, if Yates had great conditioning we should be able to see it! 

On a slab at the morgue.

[NarcissisticDeity]

so we can't see a person's conditioning with pictures? 
I said I was sick of it, not done 

here is a conditioning you CAN see, if Yates had great conditioning we should be able to see it! 

Striations are GENETIC hence why no matter how dry and hard one becomes they can never look like Munzer and striations aren't always a accurate indicator of conditioning , one can have them and still be covered in a slight film of water

and we can see his conditioning but obviously it pales in comparison to actually being live and in person

[Hulkster]

so we can't see a person's conditioning with pictures?   

see the hole these idiots have dug themselves?

even they know that based on the pics and videos (ie what bodybuilding is based on) dorian is NOT better conditioned than ronnie.

ronnie at his best at least equalled dorian's level of conditioning.

thats quite obvious based on the pics and videos.

and these morons know that.

so what do they do? say that pics and vidoes mean nothing LOL

they have an excuse to avoid everything visual in this sport, at least all the visuals that show ronnie's clear superiority over dorian.. LOL

[Mr.1derful]

Hulkster, Neo, Pumpster and MemberX all drink Ronnie's milkshake!  lol

[Hulkster]

its scary how much the video of Ronnie 99 at the prejudging obliterates the flat and flawed dorian 95 video..

dorian's upper back is ripped, but its so thin compared to Ronnie's thick and also detailed back..

dorian looks flat and unshapely compared to Ronnie, who was full, striated and thick in 99

and the missing arm is just awful.

[ASJChaotic]

Hulkster, Neo, Pumpster and MemberX drink Ronnie's milkshake!  lol

Ronnie had a HUGE gyno on his left nipple in 1998

your point?

[NarcissisticDeity]

see the hole these idiots have dug themselves?

even they know that based on the pics and videos (ie what bodybuilding is based on) dorian is NOT better conditioned than ronnie.

ronnie at his best at least equalled dorian's level of conditioning.

thats quite obvious based on the pics and videos.

bodybuilding is based on live comparisons compared to other people , contests are not judged via pictures or compressed video and I just showed you 4 examples of Dorian's superior conditioning

and I would be willing to say Ronnie only at his absolute best 1998/2001 could have equaled Yates in density & dryness however he couldn't maintain that condition at bodyweights like Dorian and he's still down other parts of the criteria so you're fucked either way

[Mr.1derful]

Ronnie had a HUGE gyno on his left nipple in 1998

your point?

And aaaaaaallllllll the way up to 2003 according to this pic.  And you drink it up! lol

[NeoSeminole]

Striations are GENETIC hence why no matter how dry and hard one becomes they can never look like Munzer and striations aren't always a accurate indicator of conditioning , one can have them and still be covered in a slight film of water

so when Ronnie has an advantage in definition from the front, it's "genetic" but when Dorian has an advantage in definition from the back, it's the result of "better conditioning?" Riiiiiight.

[NarcissisticDeity]

its scary how much the video of Ronnie 99 at the prejudging obliterates the flat and flawed dorian 95 video..

dorian's upper back is ripped, but its so thin compared to Ronnie's thick and also detailed back..

dorian looks flat and unshapely compared to Ronnie, who was full, striated and thick in 99

and the missing arm is just awful.

See when you type this nonsense I just shake my head and laugh  lol flat and flawed lol

you can't get any credible source to say Ronnie's best showing is 1999 nevermind harder or drier than Dorian , you just keep saying it but can't prove it unlike me  

[NeoSeminole]

Hulkster, Neo, Pumpster and MemberX all drink Ronnie's milkshake!  lol

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[NarcissisticDeity]

so when Ronnie has an advantage in definition from the front, it's "genetic" but when Dorian has an advantage in definition from the back, it's the result of "better conditioning?" Riiiiiight.

Definition doesn't mean striations , striations are a byproduct but one can be striated and be holding water , one can be defined and be holding water , Dorian is better conditioned because of his thin skin and his density and he could maintain this conditioning at much higher bodyweights this is what made him special among other things

striations are genetic for the most part one obviously have to be in good shape to have the visible but no matter how dry & hard one becomes they can never have as many as Munzer

[NarcissisticDeity]

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