What's the difference between a Christian extremist and an Islamic extremist?

[Fury]

You are a sad angry individual. The past doen't lie yet you all think because it happened in the past it shouldn't be taken into account. Well you are wrong.You still keep getting it wrong sad little man. Go play soilder

Great argument. Good to know that not only did Christians kill a lot of people back then, but the Ottoman Empire and millions of other moslems were running around killing just as many people, and most likely more. Funny how the apologists always seem to forget that little tidbit. They act like the Muslims were peace loving hippies until the last twenty years. WRONG.

But hey, 300 years ago, yeah the Christians were like the Muslims. Too bad that now in 2008, more than just a handful of Muslims continue to kill anything that doesn't worship the same ideologies that they do.

I'm sure you would love to justify Muslims cutting the head off of a little girl in Angola because she happened to be Christian. Please enlighten us. GREAT POINT, though! 

[George Whorewell]

We are just angry misinformed individuals. Obviously we haven't recieved terrorist sensitivity training. Im going to try and squeeze that into my schedule between my border hopping with pogo sticks for illegals camp counseling gig, and my partial birth abortion fund raiser.

[OzmO]

It's more than degree.  It's philosophy too. 

Well yeah,  if you don't take the old testament into account

[MCWAY]

Well yeah,  if you don't take the old testament into account

Ozmo, why persecuteth thou me?

 

[OzmO]

 

I'm not trying to open a can of worms here.  Sorry. 

After i posted it i thought in a minute you, and loco will be all over this.  It's not probably "true" Christians, in the sense of what i've learn from my debates with you and loco.  But you guys are far and few between.

My point is that, people can or will use the examples in the OT to justify their actions much the same as muslim extremists do with Koran.  The only difference is the "degree"

[Fury]

I'm not trying to open a can of worms here.  Sorry. 

After i posted it i thought in a minute you, and loco will be all over this.  It's not probably "true" Christians, in the sense of what i've learn from my debates with you and loco.  But you guys are far and few between.

My point is that, people can or will use the examples in the OT to justify their actions much the same as muslim extremists do with Koran.  The only difference is the "degree"

That "degree" is a big thing. Someone ranting or protesting about being anti-abortion and blowing yourself up in a marketplace full of women and children to prove your point are two very different things.

Unless of course, you think brainwashing a 13 year old into beheading a "suspected" informant and staging a rally outside an abortion clinic are the same thing.

[OzmO]

That "degree" is a big thing. Someone ranting or protesting about being anti-abortion and blowing yourself up in a marketplace full of women and children to prove your point are two very different things.

Unless of course, you think brainwashing a 13 year old into beheading a "suspected" informant and staging a rally outside an abortion clinic are the same thing.

yep.

Sometimes, the "degree" is similar when an anit-abortion activists blows up or kills some one involve in an abortion clinic.

But for the part 99% the degree is not similar.

[Dos Equis]

Well yeah,  if you don't take the old testament into account

What "Christian" extremists have used the Old Testament to justify acts similar to Islamic extremists? 

[OzmO]

What "Christian" extremists have used the Old Testament to justify acts similar to Islamic extremists? 

Other than killing a few abortion doctors?

Nothing i can think of off hand.  that's why i say the "degree" is not the same.

[Dos Equis]

Other than killing a few abortion doctors?

Nothing i can think of off hand.  that's why i say the "degree" is not the same.

Did those murderers kill in the name of some Old Testament text/teaching?  I'm not aware of that. 

[OzmO]

Did those murderers kill in the name of some Old Testament text/teaching?  I'm not aware of that. 

there's quite a lot of killing in the OT for not following GOD's word.

[headhuntersix]

Because in the OT god would kick ur ass....i kinda like that god.

[Dos Equis]

there's quite a lot of killing in the OT for not following GOD's word.

True.  But where is the link between the handful of abortion bombers and OT killing?  There isn't an OT philosophy taught in Christian churches that condones murder.  (At least I don't know of any.)  

[Dos Equis]

Because in the OT god would kick ur ass....i kinda like that god.

lol.  Some people need a good God butt whippping.   

[Camel Jockey]

Muslims in general are far less educated than Christians, which makes them more dangerous.

[headhuntersix]

Easily swayed minds.....

[OzmO]

True.  But where is the link between the handful of abortion bombers and OT killing?  There isn't an OT philosophy taught in Christian churches that condones murder.  (At least I don't know of any.)  

"Thou shall not kill"  Abortion is killing.

That's GOD's word in the OT.

3000 men were killed in judges for worshipping false idols (another commandment).  That's where the justification comes from.

[Dos Equis]

"Thou shall not kill"  Abortion is killing.

That's GOD's word in the OT.

3000 men were killed in judges for worshipping false idols (another commandment).  That's where the justification comes from.

That's pretty creative, but "thou shalt not murder" is not an exclusive OT teaching.  You can pull all sorts of verses and stories out of the OT where people were killed (I don't dispute that), but it doesn't sound like you can make any kind link between the handful of "Christian" murderers and Christian teaching.  I don't think that link exists (not one that can be proved).  And I don't think you can rely on a handful of extremists to draw reasonable conclusions about large segments of the community.         

[y19mike77]

Wow 240 I have lost all respect for you.

Muslims = If you cant Convert the infidel kill em

Christians = If you cant convert them pray for them.

I would say there is a diff.

Thats my last post in this thread. Not worth my time.

[Michaeloz]

Dude...I'm not part of the blame America crowd, I'm a proud American, and I'm not a shitbag muslim apologist either.  It will be time to look at history after the threat is gone.  My job isnt a game either. Go do whatever unimportant thing it is that u do. I'll continue to defend ur right to do it in safety. Or let me guess, ur not even American

Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha fuck your killing me ,hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha, defending my right hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha

ok soilder boy, keep up the good work killer, fuck you are just another out of touch ( but apprently well educated) American

[Michaeloz]

and cue assclown berzerk (i know everything because I'm a uni student but have done anything outside my own country) fury and his bullshit.
 It must be great to be a country who can find justifaction in everything you do.

[headhuntersix]

Hhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha fuck your killing me ,hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha, defending my right hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahaha

ok soilder boy, keep up the good work killer, fuck you are just another out of touch ( but apprently well educated) American

Do us a favor and proof ur posts please. I can't argue with a retard.

[Fury]

yep.

Sometimes, the "degree" is similar when an anit-abortion activists blows up or kills some one involve in an abortion clinic.

But for the part 99% the degree is not similar.

Enlighten me. How many people have blown up abortion clinics in the last 50 years? You can count the attacks on both hands. There were 12 Muslim extremist attacks on 9/14 alone. Rudolph was responsible for most of the abortion bombings and he's one man. The actions of a dozen people does not a religion make. However, the actions of hundreds of thousands who kill thousands do a religion make.

Ever see that video of what I'm 99% sure was Mohammed Abdullah (whatever his name, was the Taliban military leader in Afghanistan) instructing and cheering on a 12 year old kid beheading a guy? Yes, they are most definitely equals. 

and cue assclown berzerk (i know everything because I'm a uni student but have done anything outside my own country) fury and his bullshit.
 It must be great to be a country who can find justifaction in everything you do.

Calm down, China hates muslims too. China no speak anglais tres bien?

[OzmO]

That's pretty creative, but "thou shalt not murder" is not an exclusive OT teaching.  You can pull all sorts of verses and stories out of the OT where people were killed (I don't dispute that), but it doesn't sound like you can make any kind link between the handful of "Christian" murderers and Christian teaching.  I don't think that link exists (not one that can be proved).  And I don't think you can rely on a handful of extremists to draw reasonable conclusions about large segments of the community.         

So those christian murders didn't feel justified?   The same as extreme muslims feel justified?    The only difference is the degree.

[OzmO]

Enlighten me. How many people have blown up abortion clinics in the last 50 years? You can count the attacks on both hands. There were 12 Muslim extremist attacks on 9/14 alone. Rudolph was responsible for most of the abortion bombings and he's one man. The actions of a dozen people does not a religion make. However, the actions of hundreds of thousands who kill thousands do a religion make.

Ever see that video of what I'm 99% sure was Mohammed Abdullah (whatever his name, was the Taliban military leader in Afghanistan) instructing and cheering on a 12 year old kid beheading a guy? Yes, they are most definitely equals. 

Calm down, China hates muslims too. China no speak anglais tres bien?

Hey, umm,  scroll and see the flavor before you crawl up into the kool-aid. 

I said the difference is the degree.  And you so well outlined that. 

Slap your forehead, you could have had a V-8.