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Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« on: September 18, 2008, 07:52:35 AM »
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Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says that paying higher taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans.

Biden says he and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama want to “take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people.”

Under the Democrats’ economic plan, people earning more than $250,000 a year would pay more in taxes while those earning less — the vast majority of American taxpayers — would receive a tax cut.

Biden told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Thursday that, in his words, “it’s time to be patriotic … time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.”

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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #1 on: September 18, 2008, 07:55:41 AM »
WHY HAS BIDEN NOT DONATED MONEY TO THE US GOVERNMENT THEN?

Typical "tax and spend liberal" who wants to get in everyone else's wallet but has not taken the advanced initiative to pay extra taxes.
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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2008, 07:59:21 AM »
Yeah there was another guy who said that as well.
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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #3 on: September 18, 2008, 08:02:02 AM »
WHY HAS BIDEN NOT DONATED MONEY TO THE US GOVERNMENT THEN?

Typical "tax and spend liberal" who wants to get in everyone else's wallet but has not taken the advanced initiative to pay extra taxes.


Maybe the Obama campaign should send the $500,000 that Fannie Mae donated to them to "help America out of the rut".  That would show their patriotism, would it not?
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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 08:03:47 AM »
What did that girl on "Larry King Live" call him, "Joe 'open mouth; insert foot" Biden?

Did Obama mentioned this to his Hollywood buddies, during the 31K dinner and a show?

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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 08:03:55 AM »
Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden says that paying higher taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans.

Biden says he and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama want to “take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people.”

Under the Democrats’ economic plan, people earning more than $250,000 a year would pay more in taxes while those earning less — the vast majority of American taxpayers — would receive a tax cut.

Biden told ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Thursday that, in his words, “it’s time to be patriotic … time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.”



Biden just offended millionaires.

Methinks they were going to vote mccain already.

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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 08:06:05 AM »
Biden just offended millionaires.

Methinks they were going to vote mccain already.

Not just millionaires are targeted by Biden and his huge Tax and Spend policies..
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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 08:10:09 AM »
Biden just offended millionaires.

Methinks they were going to vote mccain already.


Me thinks someone who makes $250,000 per year isn't a millionaire.
Me thinks that I work for people who do make $250,000 per year and me thinks that if they are taxed higher it will affect my raises, bonus, health insurance, job security, vacation, sick time.........i could go on.

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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 08:14:32 AM »
I think u would be right...also maybe the two idiots that worked for Freddie and fanny, and now work for Obama, ought to give all the money they took, back.
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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 08:16:06 AM »

Me thinks someone who makes $250,000 per year isn't a millionaire.
Me thinks that I work for people who do make $250,000 per year and me thinks that if they are taxed higher it will affect my raises, bonus, health insurance, job security, vacation, sick time.........i could go on.



Amen...stealing from Paul to pay Peter is NEVER a good idea.
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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 08:16:36 AM »

Me thinks someone who makes $250,000 per year isn't a millionaire.
Me thinks that I work for people who do make $250,000 per year and me thinks that if they are taxed higher it will affect my raises, bonus, health insurance, job security, vacation, sick time.........i could go on.

Fair enough.

How many people making 250k a year are voting Dem?

I think they're fine with pissing off 1% of the voters if they can energize the other 99% making under 100k.

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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 08:18:41 AM »
Fair enough.

How many people making 250k a year are voting Dem?

I think they're fine with pissing off 1% of the voters if they can energize the other 99% making under 100k.

It's about principal and unintended consequences more than just pissing people off.
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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 08:21:11 AM »
We've gotten into the bail-out business....it would be worse under a fully dem controled government. McCain has made some correct statements about that and then was under cut by the AIG bailout.....Neither side has made a case for or against this crap.
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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 08:25:03 AM »
It's about principal and unintended consequences more than just pissing people off.

Obama is more concerned with just getting into office.  He says what 99% of people wouldn't mind hearing ("more $ for you, less for rich pricks".)

It works.

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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #14 on: September 18, 2008, 08:26:47 AM »
Obama is more concerned with just getting into office.  He says what 99% of people wouldn't mind hearing ("more $ for you, less for rich pricks".)

It works.

Well I am not sure it works with "Fair Minded" voters.  On the surface it is very attractive and you are 100% correct about "Obama is more concerned with just getting into office."
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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2008, 08:29:03 AM »
Well I am not sure it works with "Fair Minded" voters.  On the surface it is very attractive and you are 100% correct about "Obama is more concerned with just getting into office."

A lot of fair-minded people are losing their homes and jobs right now, or seeing repo'ed houses on their streets.

Less and less of them are giving a shit about the wallets of some rich prick they'll never meet.  You promise them an extra 800 or 1200 a year, they're going to take it.

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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2008, 08:31:58 AM »
A lot of fair-minded people are losing their homes and jobs right now, or seeing repo'ed houses on their streets.

Less and less of them are giving a shit about the wallets of some rich prick they'll never meet.  You promise them an extra 800 or 1200 a year, they're going to take it.

How could they be "fair minded" yet dumb as a fucking rock because they couldn't understand the "teaser rate" on their interest only loan?

Bail out corporation isn't good according you, why should bailing an idiotic home owner?
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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2008, 08:34:46 AM »
It's about principal and unintended consequences more than just pissing people off.

Unintended consequences.  Exactly.
Most, not all, of the Obama supporters don't know, or care about the unintended consequence of over taxing the rich.  All they hear is "tax the rich" and they don't investigate what that actually means.  Obama has convinced his hard-core supporters that rich people are evil, he's going to take their money and give to the not-so-rich.  All that sounds good on the surface.
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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2008, 08:50:45 AM »
I think u would be right...also maybe the two idiots that worked for Freddie and fanny, and now work for Obama, ought to give all the money they took, back.

How much did homeboy make from that Fannie Mae deal, $90 million? I don't see him coughing up any of that green. In fact, methinks he's digging the Bush tax cuts.

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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2008, 09:04:23 AM »
I'm okay with some corp bailouts.  But I don't think a SINGLE homeowner shoudl be bailed out.  they were stupid to accept such loans.

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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2008, 09:07:44 AM »
I'm okay with some corp bailouts.  But I don't think a SINGLE homeowner shoudl be bailed out.  they were stupid to accept such loans.

I'm inclined to agree.

On the patriotism by paying more taxes issue.........another stupid comment.

But just as stupid as dying in Iraq to show your patriotism.

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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2008, 09:11:44 AM »
I think u would be right...also maybe the two idiots that worked for Freddie and fanny, and now work for Obama, ought to give all the money they took, back.

Maybe since they are his economic advisors we can rest safely.

Or at least Obama can explain why between 1987 and present day, he has been the  senator with the 2nd largest donations recieved from both Freddy and Fanny....with only 2 years experience

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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2008, 09:15:28 AM »
God forbid a politician speaks the truth about economic sanity and the patriotic duty to pay one's taxes.

Let's not play that game.  Everything's great.  How about a tax cut Champ?  Let's spend another 100 billion on Iraq.  Let's throw in a huge tax cut to stimulate the economy.

Who cares if 'borrowing and spending' runs up a tab with interest?  We don't have to pay that now.  How about a tax cut?  Let the next generation figure out how to sort out our debt.

McCain and Bush are bankrupting this country.


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Biden; Pay More Taxes
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2008, 09:15:46 AM »
WASHINGTON — Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans. In a new TV ad that repeats widely debunked claims about the Democratic tax plan, the Republican campaign calls Obama’s tax increases “painful.”

Under the economic plan proposed by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, people earning more than $250,000 a year would pay more in taxes while those earning less — the vast majority of American taxpayers — would receive a tax cut.

Although Republican John McCain claims that Obama would raise taxes, the independent Tax Policy Center and other groups conclude that four out of five U.S. households would receive tax cuts under Obama’s proposals.

“We want to take money and put it back in the pocket of middle-class people,” Biden said in an interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America.”

Noting that wealthier Americans would indeed pay more, Biden said: “It’s time to be patriotic … time to jump in, time to be part of the deal, time to help get America out of the rut.”

McCain released a television ad Thursday charging that Obama would increase the size of the federal government amid an economic crisis. Contending that “a big government casts a big shadow on us all,” the ad features the image of a shadow slowly covering a sleeping baby as a narrator misstates the reach of the Obama tax proposal.

“Obama and his liberal congressional allies want a massive government, billions in spending increases, wasteful pork,” the ad says. “And we would pay — painful income taxes, skyrocketing taxes on life savings, electricity and home heating oil. Can your family afford that?”The McCain campaign said the ad is set to run nationally.


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Re: Biden: Pay More Taxes to Show Patriotism
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2008, 09:19:15 AM »
God forbid a politician speaks the truth about economic sanity and the patriotic duty to pay one's taxes.

Let's not play that game.  Everything's great.  How about a tax cut Champ?  Let's spend another 100 billion on Iraq.  Let's throw in a huge tax cut to stimulate the economy.

Who cares if 'borrowing and spending' runs up a tab with interest?  We don't have to pay that now.  How about a tax cut?  Let the next generation figure out how to sort out our debt.

McCain and Bush are bankrupting this country.



Is it a combination of the costs of the Iraq war combined with lowering taxes that has greatly contributed to this problem?