Lee Haney VS Flex Wheeler

[NarcissisticDeity]

much bigger arms, back about equal, better shoulders by a mile, better chest, way bigger and better shaped quads, hams about equal and calves equal.

I stopped at ' back about equal ' Dave with statements like these your opinion can't be taken seriously , it just can't.

[QuakerOats]

I stopped at ' back about equal ' Dave with statements like these your opinion can't be taken seriously , it just can't.

from 2005 on when Jay brought his back thickness up by leaps and bounds it is every bit as good as Dorian's was, even if we give Dorian the win on back Jay still beats him on enough things to make him better.

[NarcissisticDeity]

from 2005 on when Jay brought his back thickness up by leaps and bounds it is every bit as good as Dorian's was, even if we give Dorian the win on back Jay still beats him on enough things to make him better.

Its not equal under ANY circumstances with the sole exception of width , and like Hulkster before you contest aren't judged as individual parts its the whole that matters , how does Jay fair in the ab-thigh? front & rear latspreads , side chest , side triceps , etc I mean its NO contest its not close Jay is big & soft , Dorian is big and hard as nails and dry as the saharah

[QuakerOats]

Its not equal under ANY circumstances with the sole exception of width , and like Hulkster before you contest aren't judged as individual parts its the whole that matters , how does Jay fair in the ab-thigh? front & rear latspreads , side chest , side triceps , etc I mean its NO contest its not close Jay is big & soft , Dorian is big and hard as nails and dry as the saharah

sorry man but that's just not true, Jay beats Dorian.

[NarcissisticDeity]

sorry man but that's just not true, Jay beats Dorian.

again I'm sure you believe it it would be indicative of your ignorance nothing new.

[QuakerOats]

again I'm sure you believe it it would be indicative of your ignorance nothing new.

Jay 5'9" 265 pounds with more completeness than 5'11" 257 pound Dorian, Jay wins.

[Mr.1derful]

Jay 5'9" 265 pounds with more completeness than 5'11" 257 pound Dorian, Jay wins.

I don't even know where to begin with that comment.

[suckmymuscle]

Jay 5'9" 265 pounds with more completeness than 5'11" 257 pound Dorian, Jay wins.

  Epic fail(same sentence your mother blurted out when you were born). Try again.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[johnny1]

Dorian Vs Ronnie is a Legitimate argument, but no disrespect intended to Jay, and its just a veiw,i don,t think Jay would be able to beat Dorian yates even at the 1997 Show.

[bodybuilder1234]

Jay 5'9" 265 pounds with more completeness than 5'11" 257 pound Dorian, Jay wins.

Dorian was 5'9, so they were the same height.
Also Jay is not in Dorian's league, Yates is miles ahead in the conditioning apartment.

Backs are not comparable considering Jay has zero definition on his back

[adipo8]

with out lee Haney - There would be no Flex wheeler

Haney 8 time Champion -and still winner!

[bodybuilder1234]

with out lee Haney - There would be no Flex wheeler

Haney 8 time Champion -and still winner!

Are you saying Haney is the father of Ken Wheeler? 

[RC Money]

Jays back might be undetailed but it's huge and thick. He's got a sick and complete back double bicep with a thick wide back, great arms and delts with good hams and awsome calves. Rear lat spread is good too. I don't think his back is better than Yates at all but 06 Jay IMO he looks better in the back poses. Also Jays lats in the front double bi flare out more than just about anybody including Ronnie. 01 Jay was perfect from the front.

[Danimal77]

Dorian was 5'9, so they were the same height.
Also Jay is not in Dorian's league, Yates is miles ahead in the conditioning apartment.

Backs are not comparable considering Jay has zero definition on his back

Buddy, Dorian was at least 5'10" (billed as high as 5'11") and Jay is NOT over 5'8.5" (his billing before he made a name for himself). They are NOT the same height.