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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #100 on: October 04, 2008, 01:04:30 PM »
i have noticed distinct effects of fats when taken in large quantities, between flax oil, olive oil, and hemp oil. so to me they are valuable supplements, if not taken in adequate quantities through diet.

i take large dosages of vit c and multi vit and mineral - i have never noticed any effect from these, however i have read enough about vitamin c, and vitamins in general to feel they are worth the risk.

there is actually a patent that states vit c cures heart disease. it was discovered by a nobel prize winner linus pauling. although it is not well documented or publicised - i wonder why?

HAHAHA the idiocy of this post is astounding. CURES heart disease, please tell us of the mechanism and outline what heart disease entails. Do you even know what animals lack the enzyme to create de novo vitamin c? Why would evolution cause us to loose this enzyme when it has curative properties? Wouldnt that make no sense?

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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #101 on: October 04, 2008, 01:06:52 PM »


hahahahahahaha clearly you are retarded, try taking high doasages of leucine instead of a compete protein source and reply here in a year, and tell me how much muscle you have gained  ::) or are you once again claiming that leucine stimulates protein synthesis more than a complete protein source  ::)

i would die if i did not take in all the essential amino acids, you have a reading comprehension problem.

Also ZACH. Wavelength that the taste of the food was more valid then scientific research in order to determine that foods healthfullness, lol. These are the people who are arguing about nutrition.


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« Reply #102 on: October 04, 2008, 01:10:44 PM »
Also ZACH. Wavelength that the taste of the food was more valid then scientific research in order to determine that foods healthfullness, lol. These are the people who are arguing about nutrition.

You are missing the point.

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« Reply #103 on: October 04, 2008, 01:17:53 PM »
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA meltdown

yes I'm so uneducated i have caused you to meltdown and post 3 times in a row.

if you want to know the mechanisms that cause vit c to cure heart disease you are welcome to read the patent yourself :

http://www.communicationagents.com/chris/5278189.pdf

you are a cock, and have been exposed as a fool, who hides behind long words and useless abstracts. - again show me the proof i require and i will admit you are smarter  ::) take your time einstein.

Also as a man who claims to be educated in the ways of nutrition, biochemistry and have to assesed by an educational facility on that knowledge, you really should be more open minded regarding the field of Orthomolecular treatments.
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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #104 on: October 04, 2008, 01:24:03 PM »
You are missing the point.

whats the point, you said this did you not?

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« Reply #105 on: October 04, 2008, 01:32:14 PM »
Hey FatPanda, I think you should stop arguing with Usmokepole on this subject. He has proven his points several times, and his history as a poster on Getbig dictates that he is going to be accurate with his Info pretty much 100% of the time.

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« Reply #106 on: October 04, 2008, 01:37:07 PM »
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA meltdown

yes I'm so uneducated i have caused you to meltdown and post 3 times in a row.

if you want to know the mechanisms that cause vit c to cure heart disease you are welcome to read the patent yourself :

http://www.communicationagents.com/chris/5278189.pdf

you are a cock, and have been exposed as a fool, who hides behind long words and useless abstracts. - again show me the proof i require and i will admit you are smarter  ::) take your time einstein.

Also as a man who claims to be educated in the ways of nutrition, biochemistry and have to assesed by an educational facility on that knowledge, you really should be more open minded regarding the field of Orthomolecular treatments.


I am, i use vitamin c for many things, i am not open to non scientific conjecture. How have i been exposed, you have provided no evidence and i met your claim, you have a definition of science and want me to provide evidence to support your theory which is patently false, how can i possibly do that. All i can do is show you fact and provide the evidence, maybe you should extend the same curtisy.

Lets show how much of a moron you are. You claimed vitamin c cures heart disease. You didnt even read the link you provided did you?

"The present invention provides a method and pharmaceutical agent for the treatment and prevention
of occlusive cardiovascular disease generally, by administering to a subject an effective amount of
ascorbate and one or more binding inhibitors."

"What is claimed is:
1. A pharmaceutical composition consisting essentially of ascorbate, traexamic acid, lysine and nicotinic
acid said ingredients in an amount effective to treat Lp (a)associated
occlusive cardiovascular disease.
2. A method of treatment of occlusive cardiovascular disease comprising the step of administering to a
subject a therapeutic composition comprising ascorbate and tranexamic acid in an amount sufficient to
decrease the binding of liproprotein (a) to blood vessel walls.
3. A method according to claim 2 wherein said ascorbate is selected from the group consisting of
pharmaceutically acceptable ascorbate salts, ascorbic acid and mixtures thereof."

it does not state that vitamin c CURES heart disease. LMAO

Now to learn about occlusive arterial disease

http://www.bmhcc.org/health/library/card3479.asp

"Besides cholesterol, there are other causes of this disease. Sometimes there is an infection or blood clot which causes small clots to become lodged in the arteries. At other times, there can be a swelling of the arteries.

The treatment of arterial occlusive disease depends on the cause. It also depends on which arteries are affected. Persons who smoke should stop if they have this disease. Diabetes will also make the problem worse. If the problem is caused by a build-up of plaques, patients should reduce the cholesterol and fats in their diet. If is caused by another problem, such as inflammation, there will be specific medicines for the disease."

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

another blow to your theory that vitamin c is a cure all for cardiovascular disease.

Your a fool stop replying its only getting worse for you, dont commit to anything substantial or make anymore claims as i will expose you using facts for the assclown you are. The mechanism as you put it is lowered lipoproteins, does it lower HDL, what about if the cause is blood pressure, or homocysteine, or fibrin elevation, what then genius?



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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #107 on: October 04, 2008, 01:40:41 PM »
Hey FatPanda, I think you should stop arguing with Usmokepole on this subject. He has proven his points several times, and his history as a poster on Getbig dictates that he is going to be accurate with his Info pretty much 100% of the time.


appreciate the comment, but im done arguing now.

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« Reply #108 on: October 04, 2008, 02:05:38 PM »
I am, i use vitamin c for many things, i am not open to non scientific conjecture. How have i been exposed, you have provided no evidence and i met your claim, you have a definition of science and want me to provide evidence to support your theory which is patently false, how can i possibly do that. All i can do is show you fact and provide the evidence, maybe you should extend the same curtisy.

Lets show how much of a moron you are. You claimed vitamin c cures heart disease. You didnt even read the link you provided did you?

"The present invention provides a method and pharmaceutical agent for the treatment and prevention
of occlusive cardiovascular disease generally, by administering to a subject an effective amount of
ascorbate and one or more binding inhibitors."

"What is claimed is:
1. A pharmaceutical composition consisting essentially of ascorbate, traexamic acid, lysine and nicotinic
acid said ingredients in an amount effective to treat Lp (a)associated
occlusive cardiovascular disease.
2. A method of treatment of occlusive cardiovascular disease comprising the step of administering to a
subject a therapeutic composition comprising ascorbate and tranexamic acid in an amount sufficient to
decrease the binding of liproprotein (a) to blood vessel walls.
3. A method according to claim 2 wherein said ascorbate is selected from the group consisting of
pharmaceutically acceptable ascorbate salts, ascorbic acid and mixtures thereof."

it does not state that vitamin c CURES heart disease. LMAO

Now to learn about occlusive arterial disease

http://www.bmhcc.org/health/library/card3479.asp

"Besides cholesterol, there are other causes of this disease. Sometimes there is an infection or blood clot which causes small clots to become lodged in the arteries. At other times, there can be a swelling of the arteries.

The treatment of arterial occlusive disease depends on the cause. It also depends on which arteries are affected. Persons who smoke should stop if they have this disease. Diabetes will also make the problem worse. If the problem is caused by a build-up of plaques, patients should reduce the cholesterol and fats in their diet. If is caused by another problem, such as inflammation, there will be specific medicines for the disease."

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

another blow to your theory that vitamin c is a cure all for cardiovascular disease.

Your a fool stop replying its only getting worse for you, dont commit to anything substantial or make anymore claims as i will expose you using facts for the assclown you are. The mechanism as you put it is lowered lipoproteins, does it lower HDL, what about if the cause is blood pressure, or homocysteine, or fibrin elevation, what then genius?





 ::) absorbic acid is vitamin c you clown  ::)

let me break this down for you as you clearly cannot understand the compicated nature of this patent:

the amino acid lysine and its analogs, along with vit C and other antioxidants e.g. Co-Q10, vitamin a and vitamin e, can, if teh concentration is high enough, inhibit Lp(a) binding to exposed lysine residues. Proline residues are also exposed by lesions in blood vessels. Later experiments have also shown that proline as well as lysine, with vit C, other aminos and antiox's, in oral amounts much higher than needed for prevention, becomes a solvent by inhibiting the binding of Lp(a). A binding inhibitor augmented with vitamin C can stop and even reverses some plaque formations. Linus Pauling even has a second patent for using these inhibitors to melt arterial plaque from human organs during organ transplants. The organ is dipped in the Lp(a) Binding Inhibitor solution and the plaques melt away  :o

in laymans terms: the vit c increases arterial wall elasticity which reduces the chance of cracks and blockages, and the lysine or more recently recommended proline breaks down the arterial blockages, together both work to cure heart disease, and prevent arterial blockages.

lycine is found in more than adequate ammounts in all complete protein sources, meaning as long as you take vit c you will well protected.

Linus pauling has cured many many people with this treatment.

and as for the animals you comented on that produce it, naturally there has not ben one case of heart disease in them, however as studies show as soon as their ability to produce vit c is nulified, the die of heart disease within a matter of weeks.

as for the phenylalanine comments  ::) anyone who understands the metabolism of aminos will know you are full of shit.

once again can you, or can you not prove via study that it has more pronounced effects than an equal amount contained in a complete protein source  ::)

i believe you cannot, if you prove me wrong i will happily admit defeat.

tbombz, i strongly recommend you take everything this 'genius' says with a pinch of salt. he likes to dazzle with plenty of abstracts and plays on words, but it is all show and no substance.
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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #109 on: October 04, 2008, 02:43:49 PM »
whats the point, you said this did you not?

What I meant (and wrote) is that eventually a nutritional theory will come along which matches my eating habits anyway. This may not apply to everyone's diet. I do believe that a wide variety of foods is healthy, although not primarily out of scientific reasons. I also believe that generally speaking, it is important that what I eat tastes good to me, in order to be healthy.

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 ::) absorbic acid is vitamin c you clown  ::)

let me break this down for you as you clearly cannot understand the compicated nature of this patent:

the amino acid lysine and its analogs, along with vit C and other antioxidants e.g. Co-Q10, vitamin a and vitamin e, can, if teh concentration is high enough, inhibit Lp(a) binding to exposed lysine residues. Proline residues are also exposed by lesions in blood vessels. Later experiments have also shown that proline as well as lysine, with vit C, other aminos and antiox's, in oral amounts much higher than needed for prevention, becomes a solvent by inhibiting the binding of Lp(a). A binding inhibitor augmented with vitamin C can stop and even reverses some plaque formations. Linus Pauling even has a second patent for using these inhibitors to melt arterial plaque from human organs during organ transplants. The organ is dipped in the Lp(a) Binding Inhibitor solution and the plaques melt away  :o

in laymans terms: the vit c increases arterial wall elasticity which reduces the chance of cracks and blockages, and the lysine or more recently recommended proline breaks down the arterial blockages, together both work to cure heart disease, and prevent arterial blockages.

lycine is found in more than adequate ammounts in all complete protein sources, meaning as long as you take vit c you will well protected.

Linus pauling has cured many many people with this treatment.

and as for the animals you comented on that produce it, naturally there has not ben one case of heart disease in them, however as studies show as soon as their ability to produce vit c is nulified, the die of heart disease within a matter of weeks.

as for the phenylalanine comments  ::) anyone who understands the metabolism of aminos will know you are full of shit.

once again can you, or can you not prove via study that it has more pronounced effects than an equal amount contained in a complete protein source  ::)

i believe you cannot, if you prove me wrong i will happily admit defeat.

tbombz, i strongly recommend you take everything this 'genius' says with a pinch of salt. he likes to dazzle with plenty of abstracts and plays on words, but it is all show and no substance.

"absorbic acid is vitamin c you clown "

please show me where i claimed it wasnt. Dude stop the non sense your distracting tactics and non sequitor arguments and mind numbing. I didnt claim anything about absorbic acid not being vitamin c, so why are you posting this? More lies and misinformation.


you claimed vitamin c cured heart disease, it does not. What you provided was a patent that vitamin c ALONG with other nutrients listed in the paper you provided,ergo, your claim is false as it is not just vitamine c, nor is it a cure.

"and as for the animals you comented on that produce it, naturally there has not ben one case of heart disease in them, however as studies show as soon as their ability to produce vit c is nulified, the die of heart disease within a matter of weeks."

obviously ::), lol.

"as for the phenylalanine comments  ::) anyone who understands the metabolism of aminos will know you are full of shit."

i think its quite the opposite, prove me wrong.

once again can you, or can you not prove via study that it has more pronounced effects than an equal amount contained in a complete protein source  ::)"

yes i can.And i did, why do you think they used just phenylalanine, are they ignorant to the competitive inhibition that i made up, or perhaps they realize something you dont. I dont know, ill side with the experts and researchers on this one.


"the amino acid lysine and its analogs, along with vit C and other antioxidants e.g. Co-Q10, vitamin a and vitamin e, can, if teh concentration is high enough, inhibit Lp(a) binding to exposed lysine residues. Proline residues are also exposed by lesions in blood vessels. Later experiments have also shown that proline as well as lysine, with vit C, other aminos and antiox's, in oral amounts much higher than needed for prevention, becomes a solvent by inhibiting the binding of Lp(a). A binding inhibitor augmented with vitamin C can stop and even reverses some plaque formations. Linus Pauling even has a second patent for using these inhibitors to melt arterial plaque from human organs during organ transplants. The organ is dipped in the Lp(a) Binding Inhibitor solution and the plaques melt away"

please quote what you copy and paste. Also this is what im saying, you said vitamin c cures cardiovascular disease, when it is a combo approach for one, and one of the specific causes of cardiovascular disease. Thus, you are wrong by saying vitamin c alone cures heart disease on both fronts. I have proven you wrong on every single one of your claims, im actually starting to feel bad for doing this to you.

"once again can you, or can you not prove via study that it has more pronounced effects than an equal amount contained in a complete protein source  

i believe you cannot, if you prove me wrong i will happily admit defeat."

i did, via factual and research evidence. I just didnt provide the exact study you have made up in your head, sorry i cannot force the scientific community to study something they know is pointless.

"tbombz, i strongly recommend you take everything this 'genius' says with a pinch of salt. he likes to dazzle with plenty of abstracts and plays on words, but it is all show and no substance."

LMAO more character assasination? i dont claim to be a genius and i usually help people as much as i can with my limited knowledge. I will willingly admit when i am wrong like i did with adonis when i told him he was right about atheism.

"he likes to dazzle with plenty of abstracts and plays on words, but it is all show and no substance.""

if only you backed up your claims with evidence like i did, then this argument would not even had made it past one reply.

we cam discuss the mechanisms of cholesterol biosynthesis, centripetal transport, the rate limiting uptake of cholesterol whatever you like, foam streak formation etc...

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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #111 on: October 04, 2008, 02:49:53 PM »
What I meant (and wrote) is that eventually a nutritional theory will come along which matches my eating habits anyway. This may not apply to everyone's diet. I do believe that a wide variety of foods is healthy, although not primarily out of scientific reasons. I also believe that generally speaking, it is important that what I eat tastes good to me, in order to be healthy.

sure you can think what you want. I could twist your words and claim things you never said but you have expanded on what you said to make it a little more sensible. It is not true however.

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« Reply #112 on: October 04, 2008, 03:06:48 PM »
"absorbic acid is vitamin c you clown "

please show me where i claimed it wasnt. Dude stop the non sense your distracting tactics and non sequitor arguments and mind numbing. I didnt claim anything about absorbic acid not being vitamin c, so why are you posting this? More lies and misinformation.


you claimed vitamin c cured heart disease, it does not. What you provided was a patent that vitamin c ALONG with other nutrients listed in the paper you provided,ergo, your claim is false as it is not just vitamine c, nor is it a cure.

"and as for the animals you comented on that produce it, naturally there has not ben one case of heart disease in them, however as studies show as soon as their ability to produce vit c is nulified, the die of heart disease within a matter of weeks."

obviously ::), lol.

"as for the phenylalanine comments  ::) anyone who understands the metabolism of aminos will know you are full of shit."

i think its quite the opposite, prove me wrong.

once again can you, or can you not prove via study that it has more pronounced effects than an equal amount contained in a complete protein source  ::)"

yes i can.And i did, why do you think they used just phenylalanine, are they ignorant to the competitive inhibition that i made up, or perhaps they realize something you dont. I dont know, ill side with the experts and researchers on this one.


"the amino acid lysine and its analogs, along with vit C and other antioxidants e.g. Co-Q10, vitamin a and vitamin e, can, if teh concentration is high enough, inhibit Lp(a) binding to exposed lysine residues. Proline residues are also exposed by lesions in blood vessels. Later experiments have also shown that proline as well as lysine, with vit C, other aminos and antiox's, in oral amounts much higher than needed for prevention, becomes a solvent by inhibiting the binding of Lp(a). A binding inhibitor augmented with vitamin C can stop and even reverses some plaque formations. Linus Pauling even has a second patent for using these inhibitors to melt arterial plaque from human organs during organ transplants. The organ is dipped in the Lp(a) Binding Inhibitor solution and the plaques melt away"

please quote what you copy and paste. Also this is what im saying, you said vitamin c cures cardiovascular disease, when it is a combo approach for one, and one of the specific causes of cardiovascular disease. Thus, you are wrong by saying vitamin c alone cures heart disease on both fronts. I have proven you wrong on every single one of your claims, im actually starting to feel bad for doing this to you.

"once again can you, or can you not prove via study that it has more pronounced effects than an equal amount contained in a complete protein source  

i believe you cannot, if you prove me wrong i will happily admit defeat."

i did, via factual and research evidence. I just didnt provide the exact study you have made up in your head, sorry i cannot force the scientific community to study something they know is pointless.

"tbombz, i strongly recommend you take everything this 'genius' says with a pinch of salt. he likes to dazzle with plenty of abstracts and plays on words, but it is all show and no substance."

LMAO more character assasination? i dont claim to be a genius and i usually help people as much as i can with my limited knowledge. I will willingly admit when i am wrong like i did with adonis when i told him he was right about atheism.

"he likes to dazzle with plenty of abstracts and plays on words, but it is all show and no substance.""

if only you backed up your claims with evidence like i did, then this argument would not even had made it past one reply.

we cam discuss the mechanisms of cholesterol biosynthesis, centripetal transport, the rate limiting uptake of cholesterol whatever you like, foam streak formation etc...

 ::) i clearly own your mind.

you are pathetic, this is all you have left pointing out its not only vit c hahahahahahaha i can see why tbombz rates you so highly  ::)

very well vit c and a complete protein source cures heart disease - happy now  ::)

you clearly could not understand that patent and you have also owned yourself by your animal claim earlier, and you deflect it by simply saying " obviously, lol" to hide the fact that you have made a cvnt of yourself.

i also see more fancy words like 'centripetal transport' from you to deflect and confuse  ::)

you are clearly frustrated that i have saw through your all flash, pubmed abstracts and no substance answers, and think that if you talk long enough you will convince people you were right, when the fact is this 'uneducated fellow' drew you into an argument you could not win, as the evidence is far from conclusive. ::)

delete your account and try again.
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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #113 on: October 04, 2008, 03:09:59 PM »
sure you can think what you want. I could twist your words and claim things you never said but you have expanded on what you said to make it a little more sensible. It is not true however.

If you look at my posts in the Nutrition thread, that's exactly what I wrote. Maybe we should keep it there. Doesn't make sense to have the same discussion twice.

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« Reply #114 on: October 04, 2008, 06:26:17 PM »
::) i clearly own your mind.

you are pathetic, this is all you have left pointing out its not only vit c hahahahahahaha i can see why tbombz rates you so highly  ::)

very well vit c and a complete protein source cures heart disease - happy now  ::)

you clearly could not understand that patent and you have also owned yourself by your animal claim earlier, and you deflect it by simply saying " obviously, lol" to hide the fact that you have made a #### of yourself.

i also see more fancy words like 'centripetal transport' from you to deflect and confuse  ::)

you are clearly frustrated that i have saw through your all flash, pubmed abstracts and no substance answers, and think that if you talk long enough you will convince people you were right, when the fact is this 'uneducated fellow' drew you into an argument you could not win, as the evidence is far from conclusive. ::)

delete your account and try again.

"you clearly could not understand that patent and you have also owned yourself by your animal claim earlier, and you deflect it by simply saying " obviously, lol" to hide the fact that you have made a #### of yourself."

what? we lack the enzyme because we have found sources rich in vitamin c, the vitamin is needed, clearly those animals still have the enzyme because they lack a diet with sufficient vitamin c, obviously if mutate them to not contain the enzyme they die, as we would if you took vitamin c out of our diet, ever hear of scruvy? me saying obviously proves nothing but this point, try again.

your not owning anything, i feel bad for someone like you BUT at the same time wish i was as ignorant since it is said to be bliss.

"ou are clearly frustrated that i have saw through your all flash, pubmed abstracts and no substance answers, and think that if you talk long enough you will convince people you were right, when the fact is this 'uneducated fellow' drew you into an argument you could not win, as the evidence is far from conclusive. ::)"


prove it. Stomping like a little kid and claiming your right doesnt make it so, qualify your statements like i have.

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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #115 on: October 04, 2008, 06:27:25 PM »
::) i clearly own your mind.

you are pathetic, this is all you have left pointing out its not only vit c hahahahahahaha i can see why tbombz rates you so highly  ::)

very well vit c and a complete protein source cures heart disease - happy now  ::)

you clearly could not understand that patent and you have also owned yourself by your animal claim earlier, and you deflect it by simply saying " obviously, lol" to hide the fact that you have made a #### of yourself.

i also see more fancy words like 'centripetal transport' from you to deflect and confuse  ::)

you are clearly frustrated that i have saw through your all flash, pubmed abstracts and no substance answers, and think that if you talk long enough you will convince people you were right, when the fact is this 'uneducated fellow' drew you into an argument you could not win, as the evidence is far from conclusive. ::)

delete your account and try again.

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« Reply #116 on: October 05, 2008, 04:32:29 AM »


what? we lack the enzyme because we have found sources rich in vitamin c, the vitamin is needed, clearly those animals still have the enzyme because they lack a diet with sufficient vitamin c, obviously if mutate them to not contain the enzyme they die, as we would if you took vitamin c out of our diet, ever hear of scruvy? me saying obviously proves nothing but this point, try again.


hahahahahahaha no i've never heard of scruvy, but i have heard of scurvy.  ::)

look you halfwit, i'm getting sick or running in circles with you. you are wasting my time, you started an argument you cannot win. you are annoyed, now are trying to do your usual or playing with words, to try to save face, you have been ruined here by an uneducated man  ::) your posts have zero substance, and you have been owned badly.

I told YOU vitamin c cures heart disease. In animal's who produce it naturally, they never get heart disease. when they are genetically modified not to produce vitamin c they die of heart disease, humans get vit c from their diet. linus Pauling came up with the theory than heart disease is a chronic lack of Viet c in our diet. He has cured hundreds of people with his ideas.

You claimed i was talking shit, and to prove the mechanism behind how it cures heart disease - i not only explained it in laymans terms, but i posted a link to the patent. Then you fvcked up by revealing you did not even understanding how it worked - despite your great education.

now as usual you are running in circles playing with words, trying to salvage your once respected reputation - you have been exposed in this thread. you are a fraud, you are done.

this post says it all for me:
im gone get ya im gon rape ya im gon eat your shorts.
you are clearly a child, i have owned you, you are probably sitting at home right now with tears in your eyes, trying to think of some way to start an argument with me to salvage your reputation ::)

i expect you will follow me around getbig now, trying you best to get revenge for this brutal annihilation.

take it on the chin like a man, and move on. I am done with you.
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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #117 on: October 05, 2008, 08:41:41 AM »
hahahahahahaha no i've never heard of scruvy, but i have heard of scurvy.  ::)

look you halfwit, i'm getting sick or running in circles with you. you are wasting my time, you started an argument you cannot win. you are annoyed, now are trying to do your usual or playing with words, to try to save face, you have been ruined here by an uneducated man  ::) your posts have zero substance, and you have been owned badly.

I told YOU vitamin c cures heart disease. In animal's who produce it naturally, they never get heart disease. when they are genetically modified not to produce vitamin c they die of heart disease, humans get vit c from their diet. linus Pauling came up with the theory than heart disease is a chronic lack of Viet c in our diet. He has cured hundreds of people with his ideas.

You claimed i was talking shit, and to prove the mechanism behind how it cures heart disease - i not only explained it in laymans terms, but i posted a link to the patent. Then you fvcked up by revealing you did not even understanding how it worked - despite your great education.

now as usual you are running in circles playing with words, trying to salvage your once respected reputation - you have been exposed in this thread. you are a fraud, you are done.

this post says it all for me:you are clearly a child, i have owned you, you are probably sitting at home right now with tears in your eyes, trying to think of some way to start an argument with me to salvage your reputation ::)

i expect you will follow me around getbig now, trying you best to get revenge for this brutal annihilation.

take it on the chin like a man, and move on. I am done with you.


"hahahahahahaha no i've never heard of scruvy, but i have heard of scurvy.  ::)

look you halfwit, i'm getting sick or running in circles with you. you are wasting my time, you started an argument you cannot win. you are annoyed, now are trying to do your usual or playing with words, to try to save face, you have been ruined here by an uneducated man  ::) your posts have zero substance, and you have been owned badly.

I told YOU vitamin c cures heart disease. In animal's who produce it naturally, they never get heart disease. when they are genetically modified not to produce vitamin c they die of heart disease, humans get vit c from their diet. linus Pauling came up with the theory than heart disease is a chronic lack of Viet c in our diet. He has cured hundreds of people with his ideas.

You claimed i was talking shit, and to prove the mechanism behind how it cures heart disease - i not only explained it in laymans terms, but i posted a link to the patent. Then you fvcked up by revealing you did not even understanding how it worked - despite your great education."

your left to pointing out spelling mistakes, lol.

vitamin c does not cure heart disease, you are wrong. Prove it with studies, evidence.

also prove that animals with gulonolactone oxidase dont get heart disease. Because this is a lie also

http://www.avma.org/careforanimals/animatedjourneys/pethealth/canine.asp

simple example. What you gave me was a treatment for one of the causes of heart disease, one of the factors in the pathogenesis and not the sole etiology, you are wrong and are lying.



"this post says it all for me:you are clearly a child, i have owned you, you are probably sitting at home right now with tears in your eyes, trying to think of some way to start an argument with me to salvage your reputation ::)

i expect you will follow me around getbig now, trying you best to get revenge for this brutal annihilation.

take it on the chin like a man, and move on. I am done with you."

hahahahaha typical quiter, you have been brutally owned, i did expect you to give up but not this quick. Please keep posting, i find it amusing to pick apart you half truths and lies. Honestly, im seeing how many ways i can destroy your feeble mind.

AHAHAHHA i bet your a taste tester at the local glory hole.

the only ownage here has been my destruction of you lies and stupidity, however it is not much of an pwnage because you have no credibility nor expertise in any area so this argument has been like ed whitten teaching the times table to a kid with downs, full retard.

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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #118 on: October 05, 2008, 09:36:50 AM »
so just go and drink a shitload of oranges and you wil be fine... :P

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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #119 on: October 05, 2008, 10:09:34 AM »
so just go and drink a shitload of oranges and you wil be fine... :P

That would require a large straw.

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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #120 on: October 05, 2008, 10:14:57 AM »
I just like how everyone is an expert on nutrition and everyone puts "their hand up" to answer questions on the matter.  ::)

Just how argumentative would everyone be sitting in on a course on advanced metabolism or biochemistry where there are actually people who KNOW what they're talking about... ???

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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #121 on: October 05, 2008, 10:16:06 AM »
I just like how everyone is an expert on nutrition and everyone puts "their hand up" to answer questions on the matter.  ::)

Just how argumentative would everyone be sitting in on a course on advanced metabolism or biochemistry where there are actually people who KNOW what they're talking about... ???

thanks for your input sean i agree.
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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #122 on: October 05, 2008, 10:39:38 AM »
I just like how everyone is an expert on nutrition and everyone puts "their hand up" to answer questions on the matter.  ::)

Just how argumentative would everyone be sitting in on a course on advanced metabolism or biochemistry where there are actually people who KNOW what they're talking about... ???

 its painful to talk to someone without the slightest knowledge on the matter, someone would couldnt even explain the krebs cycle, the importance of a handle, glycolysis or any other simple biochemistry concepts.

Someone on this board has a phd in biochemistry i beleive.


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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #123 on: October 05, 2008, 10:40:17 AM »
thanks for your input sean i agree.

dont you quit on me now, dont you quit on me. Keep going, find some more CURES for disease.

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Re: Bullshit supplements at the convention.
« Reply #124 on: October 05, 2008, 06:12:46 PM »
So far we have learnt that Pole:

  • Cannopt spell
  • Cannot use the quote function
  • Cannot grasp grammar
  • Is incapable of piecing together a funny retort
  • Is not exactly drowning in charm and charisma


...and this is Getbigs nutrition expert?

LOL, unbelievable.

Pole, kill yourself, seriously.