Conservatives Say McCain Should Slam Obama for His Relationship With Wright

[Soul Crusher]

Perhaps, but everyone doesn't project their displeasure in the same way.

Look at McCain's recent meltdowns.
Can you please show me who is calling this guy "The Messiah", or "The Chosen One"?

He's a politician... a man... Nothing more.

Sure he has some bad associations... So does McCain... Yes, his record is empty... I'll give you that, but a person's record can be good and bad... As McCain will probably attest to these days.

Here you go:

Farakhan calling Obama the messiah.

[tu_holmes]

Here you go:

Farakhan calling Obama the messiah.

HAHA... You think anyone gives a damn about Farrahkahn? Man... If that's your guy you're going to for "proof", you really have issues.

[muscleforlife]

HAHA... You think anyone gives a damn about Farrahkahn? Man... If that's your guy you're going to for "proof", you really have issues.

Wow, I thought he had some valid reports of throngs of people calling Obama Messiah/Chosen one.


Says more about this 3333 guy than anything else.
Sandra

[IFBBwannaB]

Perhaps, but everyone doesn't project their displeasure in the same way.

Look at McCain's recent meltdowns.
Can you please show me who is calling this guy "The Messiah", or "The Chosen One"?

He's a politician... a man... Nothing more.

Sure he has some bad associations... So does McCain... Yes, his record is empty... I'll give you that, but a person's record can be good and bad... As McCain will probably attest to these days.

Oh please! McCain associations are no where near as frightening as Obama's!


Let see what McCain was accused of being associated with....his fellow veterans and singing war songs with them...wow....pure devil!

Unlike mr "not god bless America, god DAMN America" and the other members of the marry bunch.

[tu_holmes]

Oh please! McCain associations are no where near as frightening as Obama's!


Let see what McCain was accused of being associated with....his fellow veterans and singing war songs with them...wow....pure devil!

Unlike mr "not god bless America, god DAMN America" and the other members of the marry bunch.

Haha... You too are funny... The McCain people who call Obama a Muslim and say he's a communist? Saying he associates with terrorists... All lies.

Those people aren't as bad as a guy who says "God Damn America"?

I guess with them, it's all right, cause it's all WHITE.

[IFBBwannaB]

Haha... You too are funny... The McCain people who call Obama a Muslim and say he's a communist? Saying he associates with terrorists... All lies.

Those people aren't as bad as a guy who says "God Damn America"?

I guess with them, it's all right, cause it's all WHITE.

WOW , until now I thought you were somewhat ok but now you expose yourself as a racist fuck.

Those people are people in rallies, we all saw the video of McCain defending Hussein on his rally when those people took the mic, what he can't do is run after every screamer in the crowd.

There are the same in the other camp, I'm sure plenty of "gangsters" that are dying to see the white man dethroned (you seem to fit that description) yell plenty of shit at Hussein rallies, do you want him to find each and every one?


Now regarding the allegations...he have CLOSE ties to a TERRORIST (Ayers), he have CLOSE ties to a COMMUNIST (Kenya), so I can see why the mob is afraid, I'm afraid of those connections too.

Now to bust all your theories of me, I don't like to give out personal info about me, I will just bust your myth, I'm not exactly white, I'm a part of a minority group, I'm got a very high level of academic education and more importantly I have seen plenty in my life. So all your theories about me being a part of the white power group...is unbelievably wrong.

[tu_holmes]

WOW , until now I thought you were somewhat ok but now you expose yourself as a racist fuck.

Those people are people in rallies, we all saw the video of McCain defending Hussein on his rally when those people took the mic, what he can't do is run after every screamer in the crowd.

There are the same in the other camp, I'm sure plenty of "gangsters" that are dying to see the white man dethroned (you seem to fit that description) yell plenty of shit at Hussein rallies, do you want him to find each and every one?


Now regarding the allegations...he have CLOSE ties to a TERRORIST (Ayers), he have CLOSE ties to a COMMUNIST (Kenya), so I can see why the mob is afraid, I'm afraid of those connections too.

Now to bust all your theories of me, I don't like to give out personal info about me, I will just bust your myth, I'm not exactly white, I'm a part of a minority group, I'm got a very high level of academic education and more importantly I have seen plenty in my life. So all your theories about me being a part of the white power group...is unbelievably wrong.

I'm sorry... did I say you were white?

Did I say anything about YOU?

I said THEM... Those guys... Are you THOSE guys?

Is your self guilt showing here?

I'm racist? How so?

Please do explain why I am a racist when my statement was "I guess with THEM, it's all right, cause it's all WHITE"

I'm dying to hear it.

PS. That's a Chris Rock quote.

[IFBBwannaB]

I'm sorry... did I say you were white?

Did I say anything about YOU?

I said THEM... Those guys... Are you THOSE guys?

Is your self guilt showing here?

I'm racist? How so?

Please do explain why I am a racist when my statement was "I guess with THEM, it's all right, cause it's all WHITE"

I'm dying to hear it.

PS. That's a Chris Rock quote.

Although I'm a big fan of Chris Rock he admitted on several occasions to submit opinions based on race alone and his own version of affirmative action.

Trying to hide behind Chris Rock or just plain humor won't save you when you have stated similar opinions before.


BTW I was referring to me to block your obvious counter claim and start BSing by saying I'm part of the problem 


So lets just recap...the white man is the problem and Obama is the solution right?

[tonymctones]

It was 2.

Has the US government specifically had moments in it's history where it has specifically targeted black people as inferior or held them back?

Has it done the same to white people?

Notice how I asked those in a couple of posts previous.

first of bro that was over a hundred years ago and does not have bearing on todays situation...my families ancestors where oppressed as well im sure if we all go back down our family trees we will all find our ancestors suffered from some form of discrimination or worse.

yes it has holmes it has but not just injustices to blacks but also to asians, mexicans, and other minorities as well and yes to whites as well but to a lesser extent.

Now answer my question why is it that other minorities seem to thrive in the same system that wright and others believe are set up for blacks to fail in or that is against minorities?

[muscleforlife]

first of bro that was over a hundred years ago and does not have bearing on todays situation...my families ancestors where oppressed as well im sure if we all go back down our family trees we will all find our ancestors suffered from some form of discrimination or worse.

yes it has holmes it has but not just injustices to blacks but also to asians, mexicans, and other minorities as well and yes to whites as well but to a lesser extent.

Now answer my question why is it that other minorities seem to thrive in the same system that wright and others believe are set up for blacks to fail in or that is against minorities?

I am not your "bro"
Go and speak with People of Color and learn about American History First Hand, then come back online and let me know about your "one on one Experience" with reality.
Sandra

[tu_holmes]

Although I'm a big fan of Chris Rock he admitted on several occasions to submit opinions based on race alone and his own version of affirmative action.

Trying to hide behind Chris Rock or just plain humor won't save you when you have stated similar opinions before.


BTW I was referring to me to block your obvious counter claim and start BSing by saying I'm part of the problem 


So lets just recap...the white man is the problem and Obama is the solution right?

Similar opinions on what? Race? Where? Please go find those posts... You won't, but thanks for playing.

I never said the white man was the problem... I said it has been a historical fact that white people in this country have committed great injustices to the black community.

You disagree?

first of bro that was over a hundred years ago and does not have bearing on todays situation...my families ancestors where oppressed as well im sure if we all go back down our family trees we will all find our ancestors suffered from some form of discrimination or worse.

yes it has holmes it has but not just injustices to blacks but also to asians, mexicans, and other minorities as well and yes to whites as well but to a lesser extent.

Now answer my question why is it that other minorities seem to thrive in the same system that wright and others believe are set up for blacks to fail in or that is against minorities?

I don't think the Tuskegee experiments ended 100 years ago, but that's just me nitpicking.

Other minorities thrive because they choose to get over it... No shocking secret there. They get up, move themselves forward and get over their trauma, then do whatever it takes to succeed.

I'm not sure exactly why you ask the question though... Do you think that I'm saying that the Black man is currently "oppressed"?

I'm not... I'm saying that they should REMEMBER that they were ONCE oppressed, but keep moving forward and work hard to succeed.

I'm saying forgive, but not forget...

[Soul Crusher]

Similar opinions on what? Race? Where? Please go find those posts... You won't, but thanks for playing.

I never said the white man was the problem... I said it has been a historical fact that white people in this country have committed great injustices to the black community.

You disagree?

I don't think the Tuskegee experiments ended 100 years ago, but that's just me nitpicking.

Other minorities thrive because they choose to get over it... No shocking secret there. They get up, move themselves forward and get over their trauma, then do whatever it takes to succeed.

I'm not sure exactly why you ask the question though... Do you think that I'm saying that the Black man is currently "oppressed"?

I'm not... I'm saying that they should REMEMBER that they were ONCE oppressed, but keep moving forward and work hard to succeed.

I'm saying forgive, but not forget...

Black on black crime is far worse than any other type.

[tu_holmes]

Black on black crime is far worse than any other type.

I disagree... That's person on person crime.

How much White on White crime is there? Probably a lot, but no one really says anything about it.

If a white kid buys E from a white drug dealer, that's white on white crime... No one talks about it though.

I believe Government on Citizen crime is a much bigger problem than a black guy beating up another black guy.

[Soul Crusher]

I disagree... That's person on person crime.

How much White on White crime is there? Probably a lot, but no one really says anything about it.

If a white kid buys E from a white drug dealer, that's white on white crime... No one talks about it though.

I believe Government on Citizen crime is a much bigger problem than a black guy beating up another black guy.

Only is your world of make believe.

Blacks murder other blacks at far higher rates than any other group. 

[tu_holmes]

Only is your world of make believe.

Blacks murder other blacks at far higher rates than any other group. 

Sure thing... That's why the biggest Meth area is in South West Virginia... Smyth county to be accurate.

There are no black people there.

[Soul Crusher]

Sure thing... That's why the biggest Meth area is in South West Virginia... Smyth county to be accurate.

There are no black people there.

Please, what nonsense.  Blacks have far more to fear from other blacks than any other group. 

Even Jesse Jackson admitted that.

[tu_holmes]

Please, what nonsense.  Blacks have far more to fear from other blacks than any other group. 

Even Jesse Jackson admitted that.

So Jesse Jackson is now your talking point?

The guy who wants nothing more than to see the black community stay down?

You realize that if Obama does become President, that Jesse can no longer say that America is some evil entity oppressing minorities.

His power base will be completely undermined and he will be nothing.

He's not much now.

[tonymctones]

I am not your "bro"
Go and speak with People of Color and learn about American History First Hand, then come back online and let me know about your "one on one Experience" with reality.
Sandra

i wasnt addressing you sandra I was talking to homles

Im Asian LOL dont talk to me like i have no idea what goes on in this world i see the discrimination all the time and its not just whites to minorities its minorities to whites and minorities to minorities as well.

[tonymctones]

I don't think the Tuskegee experiments ended 100 years ago, but that's just me nitpicking.

Other minorities thrive because they choose to get over it... No shocking secret there. They get up, move themselves forward and get over their trauma, then do whatever it takes to succeed.

I'm not sure exactly why you ask the question though... Do you think that I'm saying that the Black man is currently "oppressed"?

I'm not... I'm saying that they should REMEMBER that they were ONCE oppressed, but keep moving forward and work hard to succeed.

I'm saying forgive, but not forget...

the reason i bring it up is b/c you seem to believe like wright that the government is out to get you.

I agree holmes forgive but you have to get over as you said...wright making outlandish ridiculous unfounded statements like the US government created aids to target the black community is irresponsible as well as ignorant and wrong. Anybody who believes this man is justified in his belief of this is the same, i understand that you should not trust government 100% shoot man i trust government about as far as i can throw them but that doesnt mean i go around with a case of diarrhea of the mouth and saying retarded shit. For a man like myself to do something like this wouldnt be as bad but for a man in his position to say some of the things he says while giving a sermon is just PLAIN WRONG.

[IFBBwannaB]

the reason i bring it up is b/c you seem to believe like wright that the government is out to get you.

I agree holmes forgive but you have to get over as you said...wright making outlandish ridiculous unfounded statements like the US government created aids to target the black community is irresponsible as well as ignorant and wrong. Anybody who believes this man is justified in his belief of this is the same, i understand that you should not trust government 100% shoot man i trust government about as far as i can throw them but that doesnt mean i go around with a case of diarrhea of the mouth and saying retarded shit. For a man like myself to do something like this wouldnt be as bad but for a man in his position to say some of the things he says while giving a sermon is just PLAIN WRONG.

Now add to all of that Obama standing in the crowd applauding him , he also thanked him on several rallies.

Someone who want to be the president of America applaud "god damn America" 

[tu_holmes]

For a man like myself to do something like this wouldnt be as bad but for a man in his position to say some of the things he says while giving a sermon is just PLAIN WRONG.

I guess I just don't agree that his position should exclude him from saying something like that.

He's a man, so if he wants to say it, it's his right and I don't see it as wrong at all.

[Soul Crusher]

i wasnt addressing you sandra I was talking to homles

Im Asian LOL dont talk to me like i have no idea what goes on in this world i see the discrimination all the time and its not just whites to minorities its minorities to whites and minorities to minorities as well.

I think the movie "crash" best showed what this is all about.

[tonymctones]

I guess I just don't agree that his position should exclude him from saying something like that.

He's a man, so if he wants to say it, it's his right and I don't see it as wrong at all.

i understand that but at the same time he is a public figure if mccain had come out and said i think the black community is trying to bleed the country dry on well fare would it have been ok? of course not even though it may be his opinion its not something that you say as a public figure.

[tu_holmes]

i understand that but at the same time he is a public figure if mccain had come out and said i think the black community is trying to bleed the country dry on well fare would it have been ok? of course not even though it may be his opinion its not something that you say as a public figure.

I guess it if was accurate that there were more black people on welfare than white people it would be ok...

I've not no problem with calling a duck a duck.

[jimijimi]

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