Hot Stove thread.

[body88]

I can only take ur word on that and there has to be some reason they let him walk but....we could use him. The more pitching the better. There is no telling how Becket will be and Dice-K's year was smoke and mirrors.  I'm not saying he can't do it again but he had a trainwreck on the basepads every other inning. I watched alot of baseball last year...it was very hard to relax with him on the mound.

2008 Season Stats
SPLITS G GS CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB SO W L P/GS WHIP BAA ERA
Season 34 34 1 0 211.0 194 84 76 14 45 147 14 11 92.3 1.13 .246 3.24
Career 533 255 9 3 1940.1 1915 925 809 156 546 1275 126 107 93.2 1.27 .257 3.75

We have pitching on the farm.  We are better than you think with no help at all.  Look at Masterson, Paplebon and Lester as proof.  We will go after a stud, but we are much stronger than you think with homegrown talent.

[CalvinH]

Mets sign K-rod for 3 years.

[body88]

Sox = Tex and Burnett!  I hope!

[Grape Ape]

KRod to the Mets was about as sure a thing as could be,  I think.

If the Sabathia ends up declining the Yankees' offer, Teixeira is going to be a lot richer, wherever he lands.

[CalvinH]

CC just signed with the Yanks

[Grape Ape]

CC just signed with the Yanks

Yeah baby.

Yankees strategy appeared to work well on this one - give him Johan money from the start to keep other teams from even entering the bidding.

Time to add Pettitte, one of the other FA pitchers, and a bat.

[mass 04]

I can't wait two years from now, when "C.C" is 600 lbs and has an era of 5.00 sweating Crisco in the summer.

[Grape Ape]

I hope NY doesn't sign Lowe.  I'd rather see them get one year out of Pettitte, and take a 2-3 year gamble on Sheets.

[body88]

I hope NY doesn't sign Lowe.  I'd rather see them get one year out of Pettitte, and take a 2-3 year gamble on Sheets.

It looks like the Yankees are going to be the New York Red Sox soon.  Interest and both Manny and Lowe!  It will be fun to see all the yanks fans claiming that they loved Manny all along, and that he is worth the monster contract they are going to give him.

[body88]

Yeah baby.

Yankees strategy appeared to work well on this one - give him Johan money from the start to keep other teams from even entering the bidding.

Time to add Pettitte, one of the other FA pitchers, and a bat.

You could look at it from that angle, or you could look at it like CC was doing everything he could not to play in NYC.  CC blatantly told the Dodgers that he wanted to play for them, and he gave them over three weeks to try and scrape the cash together to sign him.  In the end the dodgers couldn't generate the money needed to sign CC, and he went with the Yankees.  Not only that, he leveraged a third guaranteed year after the Yankees boched at the concept.  You could look at it as the PA telling him not to leave 60 million on the table.

A good sign no doubt, but it seems like CC didn't want to be a Yankee.  I think that might count for something when the going gets tough, and it will.  It was a solid sign though, and money is no object so I say A for the Yankees first move.

[CalvinH]

Yanks just made an offer to A.J.

[Grape Ape]

You could look at it from that angle, or you could look at it like CC was doing everything he could not to play in NYC.  CC blatantly told the Dodgers that he wanted to play for them, and he gave them over three weeks to try and scrape the cash together to sign him.  In the end the dodgers couldn't generate the money needed to sign CC, and he went with the Yankees.  Not only that, he leveraged a third guaranteed year after the Yankees boched at the concept.  You could look at it as the PA telling him not to leave 60 million on the table.

A good sign no doubt, but it seems like CC didn't want to be a Yankee.  I think that might count for something when the going gets tough, and it will.  It was a solid sign though, and money is no object so I say A for the Yankees first move.

There's a difference between not wanting to play somewhere and not having it be your first choice.  Do I think, all things being equal, he would choose LA or SF over NY?  Probably.  But if he really didn't want to play in NY he could have declined the offer, which would have created opportunity for other teams to negotiate, or accepted the one from the Brewers who indicated they may have gone up to 125.  That would probably mean leaving about 15-20 on the table, which nobody would fault him for.  The Yankees went for the 7th year and 160 because Sabathia wanted to beat Johan's contract, which also points to the direction that it really is all about the money with these guys, and they will most likely take that over anything.

CC's got the makeup to handle NY.  The Dodgers never had a formal meeting with CC, just a passing conversation in the lobby.  I think it came out that it was overblown.

The Dodgers thi

[Grape Ape]

Yanks just made an offer to A.J.

I'm having a hard time believing the Yankees would offer him 5 years, but they just might.

Some other good news - it appears the Yankees have swapped Melky Cabrerra for Mike Cameron.  If so, that's a big offensive upgrade, a defensive wash, and a short contract that will pave the way for Austin Jackson in a year.

[Grape Ape]

.  It is realistic to theorize that the Yankees starting rotation could be Sabathia, Wang, Chamberlain, Burnett, Hughes next year, or some combination of that.  Hank wants to spend money, and, if it's spent WISELY, the Yankees will be right back at it, with a young rotation that could last them years.

Wish I bet money on this quote.......

[body88]

Tex to the sox?  How does this starting this lineup look!?  Couple tha with the added pitching they have coming up from the farm, and I think the sox are favorites to win the East.....if it happens of course.

1. Ellsbury
2. Padrioa
3. David Ortiz
4. Texiera
5. Youkolis 
6. Jason Bay
7. Jd Drew
8. Lowery
9. Tek


Starting Pitching:
Beckett
Lester
Dice K
Masterson
Wakfield/Bowdein/Buckholz/Lowe (thats what I'm hearing),Smoltz, Bird

[body88]

The Yankees get Tex? Holy smokes!

[CalvinH]

The Yankees get Tex? Holy smokes!

 



I'm gonna try to download some pics I took at Fenway this year.my company has great seats behind home plate.it was from the night Halliday was lights out.

[body88]

 



I'm gonna try to download some pics I took at Fenway this year.my company has great seats behind home plate.it was from the night Halliday was lights out.

Just remember Yankees fans, how much money did Tampa spend to win the pennet last year?  Less than what JD Drew makes in one season    I cannot fathom that the Yankees have already spent 400 million dollars, lol.

[CalvinH]

Just remember Yankees fans, how much money did Tampa spend to win the pennet last year?  Less than what JD Drew makes in one season    I cannot fathom that the Yankees have already spent 400 million dollars, lol.

It really is nuts when you think about it,and then consider it's still close to last years payroll

[Doug_Steele]

How much does a decent seat go for to see the yanks play?

[body88]

It really is nuts when you think about it,and then consider it's still close to last years payroll

True dat (ha-ha).  I'm not going to hate on the yanks, but its amazing how much money they are willing to spend.

[CalvinH]

How much does a decent seat go for to see the yanks play?

Not sure about the new stadium.

[CalvinH]

True dat (ha-ha).  I'm not going to hate on the yanks, but its amazing how much money they are willing to spend.

As of right now their payroll is 20mil less than last year.

[body88]

As of right now their payroll is 20mil less than last year.

And?  Look at the salaries of Arod, CC, Jeter and Tex alone.  Imo the Yankees need to spend more time developing their own players, because the spending tactic has not worked for them over the last 8 years.  The Yankees ain't done yet, they are going to go after Manny to.

I can see the sox letting the Yanks blow their load in FA and dealing some of their many prospects to make some trades.  They really don't need all that much right now.  They do need a big bat long term though.  Although this Lars Anderson kid they have is supposed to be a Tex type hitter.

Also, the Redsox no longer have the second highest payroll in baseball.  Many teams outspend them now.  The gap is not even really close either way.


Yankees $209,081,579 $6,744,567
Tigers $138,685,197 $4,622,840
Mets $138,293,378 $4,609,779
Red Sox $133,440,037 $4,765,716
White Sox $121,152,667 $4,487,136
Angels $119,216,333 $4,110,908
Cubs $118,595,833 $4,392,438
Dodgers $118,536,038 $4,233,430
Mariners $117,993,982 $4,538,230
Braves $102,424,018 $3,414,134
Cardinals $100,624,450 $3,049,226
Blue Jays $98,641,957 $3,522,927
Phillies $98,269,881 $3,388,617

[Doug_Steele]

And?  Look at the salaries of Arod, CC, Jeter and Tex alone.  Imo the Yankees need to spend more time developing their own players, because the spending tactic has not worked for them over the last 8 years.  The Yankees ain't done yet, they are going to go after Manny to.

I can see the sox letting the Yanks blow their load in FA and dealing some of their many prospects to make some trades.  They really don't need all that much right now.  They do need a big bat long term though.  Although this Lars Anderson kid they have is supposed to be a Tex type hitter.

Also, the Redsox no longer have the second highest payroll in baseball.  Many teams outspend them now.  The gap is not even really close either way.


Yankees $209,081,579 $6,744,567
Tigers $138,685,197 $4,622,840
Mets $138,293,378 $4,609,779
Red Sox $133,440,037 $4,765,716
White Sox $121,152,667 $4,487,136
Angels $119,216,333 $4,110,908
Cubs $118,595,833 $4,392,438
Dodgers $118,536,038 $4,233,430
Mariners $117,993,982 $4,538,230
Braves $102,424,018 $3,414,134
Cardinals $100,624,450 $3,049,226
Blue Jays $98,641,957 $3,522,927
Phillies $98,269,881 $3,388,617

Damn, my Tigers are 2nd in payroll and they put a shitty product out on the field last year..