Disgusted, what's your take on Author L Rea "Protocols"?

[Alex23]

In particular his bridge-like "tide" phases of 28 days, overlapped...

Max androgen --> Test, other high androgen (masteron, tren), anabolics (deca, winstrol, anavar)
max anabolic --> gh, insulin, IGF, PGF
estrogen & cortisol control --> cytomel + other PCT crapos.

eg:

Week 1: max androgen
Week 2: max androgen
Week 3: max androgen
week 4: max androgen + estro/cortisol control
week 5: max anabolic  + estro/cortisol control
week 6: max anabolic
week 7: max anabolic
week 8: start over...


Can you make any sense out of it or is strictly a cute way of bridging? He claims that on high androgen, the body starts catching up after 14 days or so... and cortisol starts going up dramatically after that; therefore week 4 starts estrogen control, then switch to pure anabolic compounds which in turn gives the HTPA a break and time to recover... yet still growing...

[io856]

You are going to break your followers' hearts when they read you asking about anabolics. Keep the myth of the "natural success" alive dammit! Your STILL NATURAL TO ME DAMMIT 

Alex and Chaos are what natural bodybuilding is all about. Big fkn dudes, all around big fkn dudes. And positive too. Very positive lately

 

I'm actually natural. Thanks for making stuff up Dan akers.

Still whinning like a little baby and missing ur mommy?  oh and How's the drinking problem going?

You never posted a pic other than this, have you?

Hahahahahaha!!!!!


Kiwiman... we both know how it feels like to be a genetic freak, be accused of "juicing" & being "fat" just because we hold more bodymass and have natural 18-19" arms....

All I can do is roll my eyes and say "you can wax a Hyundai 1000 times, it's still a Hyundai"


"oh brother" 

No I'm the natural guy who's 245 and owns your juiced up ass from every angle.

[brudge]

just because he's asking about drugs doesn't mean he does them. I have some knowledge about them and don't do them myself and never have.  The science behind it just interests me.

[Alex23]

never say never which would be a monster in the making... but having the knowledge first hand from one of the best is the key...

[flexingtonsteele]

Ive never done them myself, but did numerous papers in college on steroids, and know my fair share about them.

I also watch nba basketball, but have never played professional basketball!!

[Disgusted]

In particular his bridge-like "tide" phases of 28 days, overlapped...

Max androgen --> Test, other high androgen (masteron, tren), anabolics (deca, winstrol, anavar)
max anabolic --> gh, insulin, IGF, PGF
estrogen & cortisol control --> cytomel + other PCT crapos.

eg:

Week 1: max androgen
Week 2: max androgen
Week 3: max androgen
week 4: max androgen + estro/cortisol control
week 5: max anabolic  + estro/cortisol control
week 6: max anabolic
week 7: max anabolic
week 8: start over...


Can you make any sense out of it or is strictly a cute way of bridging? He claims that on high androgen, the body starts catching up after 14 days or so... and cortisol starts going up dramatically after that; therefore week 4 starts estrogen control, then switch to pure anabolic compounds which in turn gives the HTPA a break and time to recover... yet still growing...

I friend of mine gave me one of his books and I read it from cover to cover. Not to take the easy way out but I think that he is way over complicating things. I guess you have to ask yourself what are your goals. Hell, today the average gym rat is on longer than the guys who competed back in the 70's.

Most of the big guys and the one's that have turned pro just take cycles until they pretty much reach their genetic potential. Most pick two or three drugs and go from there. Sooner or later you are going to reach maximum size and when you do and if you are still competing then it really makes no sense to be on all the time at this point. Look at Arnold or Levrone for example. Once they got to max size and was competing only once per year they came off most of the year.

There are no magical cycles no matter how to try and complicate it. Once you start messing around with your adreanal glands and your thyroid you can throw things out of balance and it  can be very hard to get things back in order. Take two beginners and put one one this guys mass cycle and the other on some deca and drol and there will be no difference. Remember, if some REEEEEALLLLYYYYY works everyone will do it cause the resluts will be so outstanding it would make no sense not to. 

[tbombz]

the guy is a douchebag with elementary understanding of the body

[Disgusted]

the guy is a douchebag with elementary understanding of the body

or that too. 

[Stavios]

the guy is a douchebag with elementary understanding of the body

maybe you guys just know your shits too much cause I never understand a word of your debates  with all the technical things

[bigdarksnake]

the guy is a douchebag with elementary understanding of the body

L Rea is a douchebag?  I have read some of his work and it is over complicated, does he just talk outta his ass?

[dustin]

L Rea is a douchebag?  I have read some of his work and it is over complicated, does he just talk outta his ass?

Yes. ALR (which isn't his real name), is a stupid homo. The guy doesn't even use his real name. He's a fucking idiot who tries coming across as smart.

People marvel at his transformation but it's nothing special. Millions of gym rats have juiced and got bigger too. It took him FOREVER to get big as well.

[tbombz]

one of his funniest shits is his "big fat bastard insulin protocol"

check it out =

http://mesomorphosis.com/articles/rea/big-fat-bastards-and-insulin.htm

[Alex23]

Thanks UnderDisguise-ted... simple common sense...

one of his fnniest shits is his "big fat bastard insulin protocol"
check it out =
http://mesomorphosis.com/articles/rea/big-fat-bastards-and-insulin.htm

Are you serious or sarcastic?

[tbombz]

i seriously think he is an idiot

[Alex23]

i seriously think he is an idiot

idiot or not, even the link you sent chemically make sense.

And... Like him or not, he did get Toney Freeman back in shape.

[tbombz]

alot of things make sense alex 

[Alex23]

alot of things make sense alex 

"So it would seem that the two choices a wanna-be beast faces is 300 grams of carbohydrates to induce a sufficient prolonged insulin spike and a Big Fat Bastard pose down or non-stop keto diets and declarations of "Hey, I may look like a weenie but I am really cut" for life.

The obvious solution is an elevation in both circulatory insulin and a corrected amino acid pool rendered highly efficient by design and not by chance."


This doesn't make sense to me either...

[Van_Bilderass]

Yes. ALR (which isn't his real name), is a stupid homo. The guy doesn't even use his real name. He's a fucking idiot who tries coming across as smart.

Agreed. Always said the same.

I have read some of his work and it is over complicated, does he just talk outta his ass?

Simplicity isn't sexy. All steroids work pretty much the same way. Try selling a book saying that. 

[Alex23]

Agreed. Always said the same.

Simplicity isn't sexy. All steroids work pretty much the same way. Try selling a book saying that. 

I'm glad I don't have to deal with all this hormonal crap...

genetics is the key.

[tbombz]

I'm glad I don't have to deal with all this hormonal crap...

genetics is the key.

well genetics = hormones

and besides

regardless of how good anybodies genetics are , to look like a bodybuilder exogenous hormones must be used