I'm pretty close to "pro size"... naturally...

[Van_Bilderass]

Reality, deal with it.

Many here on the board have already gone through the process publicly , Arvila, Gaydonis and many more, the end conclusion was all the same. You pack WAAAAAAYYYYY more fat than you realize.

I was surprised in a good way by Arvilla's transformation. Most guys who are considered "big guys" don't want to diet down like Arvilla did. Most of the time they back out of the show half way through the diet when they finally realize they're not going from 280 to a sliced 240 and will end up around 200. Or they compete fat.

[Mars]

thats why arvilla is arvilla.

[EL Mariachi]

Admit not being "cut" and "dry" but speedo + oiling + staging isn't really on my success agenda.

However, I'm thinking about "upping" the game to see what the little kernel known as Alex23 would look like once fully exploded like a popcorn of muscle.

Advices and mentoring welcome.

pretty close

[Man of Steel]

Reality, deal with it.

Many here on the board have already gone through the process publicly , Arvila, Gaydonis and many more, the end conclusion was all the same. You pack WAAAAAAYYYYY more fat than you realize.

AHHAAHAH!!!  "deal with it".   Thanks for the life lesson there sport.

[danielson]

I'd say Alex has more quality muscle than most pros. He could probably win the Mr. O if he trained for it, but for him that would be a massive pay cut.

[Man of Steel]

The true reality is life isn't bb folks....it's a glorified hobby and for those rare few who pursue it an inevitable failed career choice.   The physical standards represented within are utter nonsense....it's as much smoke and mirrors as the "deluded fat guys who think they're big". 

[Man of Steel]

I'd say Alex has more quality muscle than most pros. He could probably win the Mr. O if he trained for it, but for him that would be a massive pay cut.

Epic, epic truth

[The_Hammer]

You should cut down to 205-210 and you'd look pretty ripped.

[jtsunami]

Reality, deal with it.

Many here on the board have already gone through the process publicly , Arvila, Gaydonis and many more, the end conclusion was all the same. You pack WAAAAAAYYYYY more fat than you realize.

quoted for the truth, love how naturals think they are way more than they are until they lose the fat

[dustin]

Quit yammering and hit the God damn sauce already, Alex. You're a stud. All the good bros in the Steroid forum will help you out, myself included. I can tell that you've been tempted by the dark side for a while. Quit thinking about getting your toes wet and just jump in already.

[pumpster]

Alex a natural only can get a certain amount of muscle no matter what his genetics.  So you are not close to pro size, not at all.  Pros are on tons of gear and have way more muscle than you have, if you dieted down most of what you see as muscle would disappear.

jt

Bingo. Alex has no neck, plenty of blubber there. I don't see the need for sauce already big n beefy. If you have to find out research it, do 1 or 2 cycles just to find out how it works in your case, what differences it makes, Not because it's realistic to win shows. A coupla cycles isn't going to seriously impact health compared to pro intakes over years.

As far as dieting down of course some of the size will go but a more athletic look will be there instead of great measurements. Is it worth the pain of dieting and maintaining it for that more athletic, smaller look..

[Man of Steel]

quoted for the truth, love how naturals think they are way more than they are until they lose the fat

which begs the question....why are the drug-using "bbs" more credible and in touch with reality?  Are their gains really their own....much like extra fat over muscle shouldn't be considered "size"?  The whole bb thing is a bullshit "who's got the bigger dick" think anyhow.   Can't beat a dude on size...tell him his size is fat and means nothing.   Can't "out lean" a bb...tell him his gains mean nothing because they're drug-induced.  What I do know is that a big (excuse me "fat") guy rarely calls out a smaller, leaner guy first...9 outta 10 times it's the other way around.

[Man of Steel]

Quit yammering and hit the God damn sauce already, Alex. You're a stud. All the good bros in the Steroid forum will help you out, myself included. I can tell that you've been tempted by the dark side for a while. Quit thinking about getting your toes wet and just jump in already.

AHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!  "the good bros in the Steroid forum"

C'mon Alex, all the cool kids are doin it.....ya wanna be cool right?   

[Jeffro]

which begs the question....why are the drug-using "bbs" more credible and in touch with reality?  Are their gains really their own....much like extra fat over muscle shouldn't be considered "size"?  The whole bb thing is a bullshit "who's got the bigger dick" think anyhow.   Can't beat a dude on size...tell him his size is fat and means nothing.   Can't "out lean" a bb...tell him his gains mean nothing because they're drug-induced.  What I do know is that a big (excuse me "fat") guy rarely calls out a smaller, leaner guy first...9 outta 10 times it's the other way around.

Quoted for truth, excellent post.

[IFBBwannaB]

Man Of Steel = Alex gimmick or he is just some other useless idiot?

He seem to confuse living your life vs being fat. No one here ever said that everyone should be a bodybuilder and compete but being fat and claiming to be pro caliber is just asking for a taste of some reality.

[ManBearPig...]

I think bodybuilders make more than we think.  It's just that their activities can't be reported on a W2.

[Honour]

Alex has been teasing us for years with this Diet stuff, tbh a lot of us would love to see where hes at if he really took a shot at getting in contest shape . I think like some of us here he likes to workout etc but also hang with mates and enjoy life, which can be hard to do when really trying to get ripped. But whatever, Big cool dude all the way .

[chaos]

Man Of Steel = Alex gimmick or he is just some other useless idiot?

He seem to confuse living your life vs being fat. No one here ever said that everyone should be a bodybuilder and compete but being fat and claiming to be pro caliber is just asking for a taste of some reality.

Man of Steel would slap the bodybuilder sperm right out of your mouth.

"Wannabe"

[The Showstoppa]

Man Of Steel = Alex gimmick or he is just some other useless idiot?

He seem to confuse living your life vs being fat. No one here ever said that everyone should be a bodybuilder and compete but being fat and claiming to be pro caliber is just asking for a taste of some reality.

Is your brain damaged from your forehead smacking against the headboard with your bf Rico at the controls?

[chaos]

Lots of skinny twinks in here talking shit about some big bastards!

[The Showstoppa]

Lots of skinny twinks in here talking shit about some big bastards!

haha, yes chaos, epic napoleon complex going on...poor little ab shooters...

[chaos]

haha, yes chaos, epic napoleon complex going on...poor little ab shooters...

These are the guys that are constantly standing in front of the mirror with their shirts up around thier nipples flexing the only muscles they can see.

[The Showstoppa]

These are the guys that are constantly standing in front of the mirror with their shirts up around thier nipples flexing the only muscles they can see.

Yes, that is the definition of an "ab shooter"

[chaos]

Yes, that is the definition of an "ab shooter"

The same guys that hog the pink dumbells my wife wants to use!!

[The Showstoppa]

The same guys that hog the pink dumbells my wife wants to use!!

Yep.  Also known to use the squat rack to curl in.  And to do pull-ups as the main part of their back workout.