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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #475 on: January 01, 2009, 05:37:19 PM »
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Yep just like most fans agree that Ronnie deserved 3 Mr O titles at the most.

LOL where are you getting this from? your ass? ::)

in case you didn't notice, most fans, industry insiders and fellow pro's think Ronnie is the greatest Mr. O of all time.

if you need all the quotes, Neo can post them for you...

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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned poun
« Reply #476 on: January 01, 2009, 05:54:43 PM »
Quote from: Hulkster on January 01, 2009, 05:37:19 PM


in case you didn't notice, most fans, industry insiders and fellow pro's think Ronnie is the greatest Mr. O of all time.




No they don't. Dorian beat Ronnie in the most recent BB.com poll.
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #477 on: January 01, 2009, 06:02:57 PM »
Quote from: Hulkster on January 01, 2009, 05:37:19 PM
LOL where are you getting this from? your ass? ::)

in case you didn't notice, most fans, industry insiders and fellow pro's think Ronnie is the greatest Mr. O of all time.

if you need all the quotes, Neo can post them for you...



Maybe in your world.  Go back and read the boards when Ronnie won in 04, 05 and 06. The boards lit up with people bitching about how politics made him win.  2000 he should of lost, 2001 Jay beat him, Kevin in 2002 etc regardless if people think he is the "greatest" all those years people disputed like crazy about him not deserving to win and you know it.  He may by the freakiest of all time but not the greatest.  I don't consider Dorian the greatest either.  Haney is imo.  He won 8 Mr O's and he did beat Yates.  I bet fewer of his titles are disputed then either Yates or Ronnies.  You know damn well that when ND posts quotes from fellow Pros and industry insiders you yell politics BUT when those quotes discuss Coleman all of a sudden they become relevant.  If you think those years weren't disputed by real fans then you need to pull your head out of your ass!
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #478 on: January 01, 2009, 06:10:01 PM »
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You know damn well that when ND posts quotes from fellow Pros and industry insiders you yell politics BUT when those quotes discuss Coleman all of a sudden they become relevant.

wrong.

90% of the time ND quotes Peter McGough who is a good friend of dorian..

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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned poun
« Reply #479 on: January 01, 2009, 06:11:17 PM »
Quote from: England_1 on January 01, 2009, 05:54:43 PM
No they don't. Dorian beat Ronnie in the most recent BB.com poll.

how many times did you and ND vote on that one?

2000 votes overnight like the last time dorian 'caught up' when he was trailing ronnie?

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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #480 on: January 01, 2009, 06:12:22 PM »
Quote from: NaturalWonder83 on January 01, 2009, 05:33:02 PM
hahahahhahahhhha

Great rebuttal, Shakespeare.  ::)
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #481 on: January 01, 2009, 06:35:04 PM »
Quote from: Hulkster on January 01, 2009, 06:10:01 PM
wrong.

90% of the time ND quotes Peter McGough who is a good friend of dorian..

 ::)

But I'm sure you would have no problem accepting praise for Ronnie from Peter or the Weiders right?  Cuz that would be deserving.
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #482 on: January 01, 2009, 07:06:27 PM »
Quote from: BuffD on January 01, 2009, 06:35:04 PM
But I'm sure you would have no problem accepting praise for Ronnie from Peter or the Weiders right?  Cuz that would be deserving.

if you paid attention, you see that I hardly ever use quotes.

because opinons can be biased: see, Mcgough, Peter on his friend dorian.


I prefer to let the real life visuals do all the talking.
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #483 on: January 01, 2009, 07:07:46 PM »
wow ronnie looks great in that pic
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #484 on: January 01, 2009, 07:12:27 PM »
Quote from: NaturalWonder83 on January 01, 2009, 07:07:46 PM
wow ronnie looks great in that pic

its from the 2001 AC. one of his best ever performances, if not the best ever.

my issue with that particular presentation is that his gut was way more pronounced than in 1998 or 1999...

ND can post all the gut shots he wants from the 99 contest, it was certainly there.

but not nearly as bad as the 2001 AC...
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #485 on: January 01, 2009, 07:21:22 PM »
LOL found this comparison in the truce thread hahahaha

what year is this from? 95 or 96 for dorian?
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #486 on: January 01, 2009, 07:57:49 PM »
Quote from: Hulkster on January 01, 2009, 07:06:27 PM
if you paid attention, you see that I hardly ever use quotes.

because opinons can be biased: see, Mcgough, Peter on his friend dorian.


I prefer to let the real life visuals do all the talking.


They aren't real life visuals.  They are pics from different times.  Pics can tell what ever story you want them to tell.  Bottom line here is all anyone is doing is stating an opinion.  Thats all bodybuilding and judging really is.  There are no facts, there is no proof its an opinion.  Oh and thats the best Ronnie ever but his midsection really screws up that whole shot.
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #487 on: January 01, 2009, 08:28:23 PM »
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Oh and thats the best Ronnie ever but his midsection really screws up that whole shot.

...sort of like any shot showing dorian's detailess and smooth arms and quads screws up any shot too...

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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #488 on: January 02, 2009, 05:50:41 AM »
Quote from: Hulkster on January 01, 2009, 08:28:23 PM
...sort of like any shot showing dorian's detailess and smooth arms and quads screws up any shot too...

 :-\

Hey I'm not a Yates fan.  His arms are just plain bad.  His quads I think are fine.  They just have a very different shape to them.  Alot of the pics of him it looks like he isn't really flexing them.  Again I still think Haney is better than both despite being a bit smaller.
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #489 on: January 02, 2009, 06:46:56 AM »
1993 Mr. Olympia: The most dominant victory in IFBB history.












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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #490 on: January 02, 2009, 06:47:54 AM »
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Hey I'm not a Yates fan.

I don't blame you.

he was overrated as fuck..
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #491 on: January 02, 2009, 06:50:30 AM »
Quote from: Hulkster on January 02, 2009, 06:47:54 AM
I don't blame you.

he was overrated as fuck..

Well in all fairness I'm not a Ronnie fan either.  I think he was overrated as well.  He was bad ass like 3 times. 
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #492 on: January 02, 2009, 09:43:45 AM »
Quote from: Mr.1derful on January 02, 2009, 06:46:56 AM
1993 Mr. Olympia: The most dominant victory in IFBB history.

wrong, the 01 ASC was the most dominant victory in IFBB history - a prime Ronnie vs. a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier bodybuilders.
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #493 on: January 02, 2009, 11:05:43 AM »
Quote from: BuffD on January 02, 2009, 05:50:41 AM
Hey I'm not a Yates fan.  His arms are just plain bad.  His quads I think are fine.  They just have a very different shape to them.  Alot of the pics of him it looks like he isn't really flexing them.  Again I still think Haney is better than both despite being a bit smaller.

His biceps were average, his triceps and forearms were great!
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #494 on: January 02, 2009, 12:10:38 PM »
Quote from: NeoSeminole on January 02, 2009, 09:43:45 AM
wrong, the 01 ASC was the most dominant victory in IFBB history - a prime Ronnie vs. a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier bodybuilders.
Actually the most dominant victory was when Sergio won the MrO uncontested. I mean how much more dominating can you get than to have every other competitor afraid to show up.
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #495 on: January 02, 2009, 03:00:12 PM »
Quote from: NeoSeminole on January 02, 2009, 09:43:45 AM
wrong, the 01 ASC was the most dominant victory in IFBB history - a prime Ronnie vs. a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier bodybuilders.

I can't agree here doll.  Ronnie's shape in that show was simply incredible, maybe his all-time best.  But his competition wasn't just 2nd-class men.  Chris Cormier looked good at that show.  So did Dennis James.

Besides, when I think "most dominant" win, it would be the winner versus all of the "1st tier" competition.  In that sense, I can see why Dorian's win in 1993 is worthy of a most dominant victory (though not necessarily THE most ... there have been a lot of IFBB shows!).
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #496 on: January 02, 2009, 03:15:00 PM »
Ronnie's 2003 win was more dominant than dorian's 93 win..

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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #497 on: January 02, 2009, 03:18:56 PM »
Anyone think Dorian's Quads were pretty poor?

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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!
« Reply #498 on: January 02, 2009, 03:23:01 PM »
Quote from: Balloon on January 02, 2009, 03:18:56 PM
Anyone think Dorian's Quads were pretty poor?




yup.  most intelligent people do. blind nuthuggers think they are great LOL
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Re: Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned poun
« Reply #499 on: January 02, 2009, 04:00:52 PM »
brutal rolls of fat/loose neck skin hahaha

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