Proof that 247 pounds doesn't stack up against 257 bone dry conditioned pounds!

[Hulkster]

Kid shut up already , it's politics , it's politics

that's ALL you have left and is Ironman a Weider mag? is Musclemag? is Muscular Development? yeah I thought so

YOU are ALWAYS , always in direct conflict with the judges that means YOU don't know shit about bodybuilding 

musclemag was very critical of many of dorian's later wins...

care to explain?

secondly, your doing it again :

you don't get that you can't look to the judges scores as proof that there was no politics, because they were likely politically motivated in the first place...the visuals make that quite clear.

if you knew anything about arugments and philosophy, you would know this is called begging the question - you are assuming that what you are trying to argue is true in the first place.

you are trying to argue there were no politics on the judges part by looking at the judges own scores!

this is a phallacy.

you have to look to the visuals

and when you do, its quite clear that dorian was given highly inflated scoring...

its so sad you know so little about not only bodybuilding but philosophy too..

 

[Sherief Shalaby]

don't mistake bigger with better first of all and second of all what good is being bigger when  your conditioning if inferior ?

do u mean tht nasser's shape and condition were not good??.. u could say this abt marcus ruhl 4 example coz he is big but not good looking.. nasser's shape ws very good and well proportioned.. all his parts went in a good way together.. same thing with dorian.. so both of them looked good but nasser ws considerably bigger..

[NaturalWonder83]

haha nd owned last night
owned the day before
owned today

[NarcissisticDeity]

musclemag was very critical of many of dorian's later wins...

care to explain?

secondly, your doing it again :

you don't get that you can't look to the judges scores as proof that there was no politics, because they were likely politically motivated in the first place...the visuals make that quite clear.

if you knew anything about arugments and philosophy, you would know this is called begging the question - you are assuming that what you are trying to argue is true in the first place.

you are trying to argue there were no politics on the judges part by looking at the judges own scores!

this is a phallacy.

you have to look to the visuals

and when you do, its quite clear that dorian was given highly inflated scoring...

its so sad you know so little about not only bodybuilding but philosophy too..

 

meltdown  

NO musculemag wasn't critical of his latter wins LIE #1

and again moron you're the idiot who claims POLITICS only for Dorian but Ronnie was his titles all fair & square LMAO stfu already with this bullshit

either all contests are fixed are NO contests are fixed you can't have it both ways

you see what you want , all of you idiots do morons claiming Dorian is losing a side chest and side triceps in 1995 LMFAO visuals prove Dorian is DOMINATING all you idiots can do is deny , HISTORY proves Dorian DOMINATED yet morons deny , deny , deny it's all you have ..keep it  

[NarcissisticDeity]

haha nd owned last night
owned the day before
owned today

Stop trolling NatFag either get in the game or sit on the bench 

[NarcissisticDeity]

do u mean tht nasser's shape and condition were not good??.. u could say this abt marcus ruhl 4 example coz he is big but not good looking.. nasser's shape ws very good and well proportioned.. all his parts went in a good way together.. same thing with dorian.. so both of them looked good but nasser ws considerably bigger..

He wasn't considerable bigger not in 1995 and NO his conditioning from the front was good from the back it sucked from the sides Yates crushed him you can argue until your blue in the face but facts are facts Dorian destroyed Nasser at his best and at his worse

[Sherief Shalaby]

meltdown  

NO musculemag wasn't critical of his latter wins LIE #1

and again moron you're the idiot who claims POLITICS only for Dorian but Ronnie was his titles all fair & square LMAO stfu already with this bullshit

either all contests are fixed are NO contests are fixed you can't have it both ways

you see what you want , all of you idiots do morons claiming Dorian is losing a side chest and side triceps in 1995 LMFAO visuals prove Dorian is DOMINATING all you idiots can do is deny , HISTORY proves Dorian DOMINATED yet morons deny , deny , deny it's all you have ..keep it  

yes i said tht nasser ws better in the side shots and i mentioned why.. on the other hand u see tht dorian ws better and "thicker" in the side shots but dont or may be cant explain how!!..

[NarcissisticDeity]

yes i said tht nasser ws better in the side shots and i mentioned why.. on the other hand u see tht dorian ws better and "thicker" in the side shots but dont or may be cant explain how!!..

Again bigger doesn't mean better even if it's true especially seeing his conditioning isn't on Yates' level

[Sherief Shalaby]

He wasn't considerable bigger not in 1995 and NO his conditioning from the front was good from the back it sucked from the sides Yates crushed him you can argue until your blue in the face but facts are facts Dorian destroyed Nasser at his best and at his worse

at his worse too!!.. u mean in 97??.. but like this u r talking frm the judges point of view and not frm ur own point of view.. right

[NarcissisticDeity]

at his worse too!!.. u mean in 97??.. but like this u r talking frm the judges point of view and not frm ur own point of view.. right

They both weighed the same in 1997 and Dorian looked bigger

[Sherief Shalaby]

They both weighed the same in 1997 and Dorian looked bigger

hahahhaha.. ys ys u r right dorian looked bigger!!.. in these pics nasser looked bigger but of course in reality dorian looked bigger coz we all knw that dorian's body ws shrinking in front of the cam. 4 an unknown reason.. hahhahaaa..

[NarcissisticDeity]

hahahhaha.. ys ys u r right dorian looked bigger!!.. in these pics nasser looked bigger but of course in reality dorian looked bigger coz we all knw that dorian's body ws shrinking in front of the cam. 4 an unknown reason.. hahhahaaa..

standing relaxed Yates clearly looks bigger despite being further away from the camera and he looks comparable in size in the other pic and the front latspread he looks bigger and combine that with the fact he's harder  you have your answer

Sorry kid Dorian looks much bigger here  thanks for playing

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian 270 pounds , Nasser 270 pounds Dorian clearly making him look small

[Sherief Shalaby]

standing relaxed Yates clearly looks bigger despite being further away from the camera and he looks comparable in size in the other pic and the front latspread he looks bigger and combine that with the fact he's harder  you have your answer

Sorry kid Dorian looks much bigger here  thanks for playing

ur love 2 dorian has affected ur sight as i mentioned b4 dorian's added weight in 97 ws against him.. he looked better at 255 pounds.. he didnt have 2 try 2 reach nasser's size and had to respect his abilities

[bigbobs]

How about 285 bone dry conditioned pounds like right here

[NarcissisticDeity]

More  

[NarcissisticDeity]

How about 285 bone dry conditioned pounds like right here

bone dry ? not quite ...his conditioning looks good for that weight but to say bone dry is simply not true , especially when is back is soft

[NarcissisticDeity]

ur love 2 dorian has affected ur sight as i mentioned b4 dorian's added weight in 97 ws against him.. he looked better at 255 pounds.. he didnt have 2 try 2 reach nasser's size and had to respect his abilities

No kidding he looked better at 260 pounds in 1995  but the weight was obviously NOT against him in 1997 HE WON and made Nasser at the same weight look small

and Dorian was huge well before Nasser ever came along and with better conditioning something Nasser couldn't duplicate 

his whole back digressed the heavier he became

[bigbobs]

No kidding he looked better at 260 pounds in 1995  but the weight was obviously NOT against him in 1997 HE WON and made Nasser at the same weight look small

and Dorian was huge well before Nasser ever came along and with better conditioning something Nasser couldn't duplicate 

his whole back digressed the heavier he became

All lighting.  Also, the 97 pic is cut off on the edges which gives the impression that the size difference was less than actual.

At the 95 O Nasser was 265 (not 260).  I personally think Nasser's best was at 280-289 lbs (he weighed 289 at the 99 Arnold Classic).

[NarcissisticDeity]

All lighting.  Also, the 97 pic is cut off on the edges which gives the impression that the size difference was less than actual.

At the 95 O Nasser was 265 (not 260).  I personally think Nasser's best was at 280-289 lbs (he weighed 289 at the 99 Arnold Classic).

all lighting lol in all pics? my ass

and Dorian was 260 pounds in 1995  Nasser looked his best at around 250 pounds his conditioning was better and so was his back

[suckmymuscle]

  One interesting thing about the Dorian vs Ronnie debate is as follows: a hypothetical meeting between prime Dorian and prime Ronnie would take place at an I.F.B.B show and they would be judged by I.F.B.B judges, because they both became what they are by winning the I.F.B.B's premier show. Yet Hulkster looks at pictures of Dorian from contests that Dorian won and claims that everyone else is "clarly destroying", the "keg". This means that Hulkster's taste is in direct opposition to what the judes favor! So, Hulkster's opinion that Coleman 99' would defeat Dorian 95' means that Dorian 95' would win, since Hulkster's opinion is the opposite of what I.F.B.B judges favor. The...fucking....end.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[NarcissisticDeity]

  One interesting thing about the Dorian vs Ronnie debate is as follows: a hypothetical meeting between prime Dorian and prime Ronnie would take place at an I.F.B.B show and they would be judged by I.F.B.B judges, because they both became what they are by winning the I.F.B.B's premier show. Yet Hulkster looks at pictures of Dorian from contests that Dorian won and claims that everyone else is "clarly destroying", the "keg". This means that Hulkster's taste is in direct opposition to what the judes favor! So, Hulkster's opinion that Coleman 99' would defeat Dorian 95' means that Dorian 95' would win, since Hulkster's opinion is the opposite of what I.F.B.B judges favor. The...fucking....end.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

My point exactly ....his opinion always , always contradicts the judges that means he knows NOTHING about competitive bodybuilding .

[England_1]

Great pictures ND. Yates is the clear winner.

[England_1]

Looking at this picture how can shawn ray even think he deserves to be places above Dorian or Nasser lmfao

[NarcissisticDeity]

Looking at this picture how can shawn ray even think he deserves to be places above Dorian or Nasser lmfao

Both 270 pounds and Nasser looks a lot smaller than Yates