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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #125 on: January 17, 2009, 05:26:41 PM »
                   You have a way of NEVER answering the question Bob IFBB Pros Rep.

I've answered every question, numerous times.  If you have a specific question...ask it.

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #126 on: January 17, 2009, 05:29:12 PM »
Your interpretation of the IFBB drug testing policy (i.e. it only applies some of the time)
also means that other rules are applied when convenient.

Ben didn't have to lie, but he did. Repeatedly. Looked quite foolish doing so.

The role of drugs in the IFBB's pariah status with the IOC can't be swept under the rug, despite your noble efforts.

Once a drug addict, always a drug addiction defender.



My "interpretation" is exactly what it states in the rules...they "reserve thre right", you may be "subject to"....that means they can implement the test when and if they wish....not muh need for any interpretation...seems pretty clear cut to me,..


The rest of your jibberish is just that.....

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #127 on: January 17, 2009, 05:32:52 PM »
I've answered every question, numerous times.  If you have a specific question...ask it.
           If the IFBB Drug Rule is never used why not just have it Deleted from the Rules.Chick make your mark with the IFBB History and get that Drug Rule Deleted.

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #128 on: January 17, 2009, 05:36:03 PM »
           If the IFBB Drug Rule is never used why not just have it Deleted from the Rules.Chick make your mark with the IFBB History and get that Drug Rule Deleted.

It's there to use if they choose to use it...just like your employer has the same right.

If they dont use it...why do I need to have it removed?

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #129 on: January 17, 2009, 05:37:12 PM »
If you have a specific question...ask it.

Do all IFBB pro's use excessive amounts of illegal substances?

Should an organisation, which relies on the athletes to exist, have a vested interest in the health of these athletes?

Is it ethical for the IFBB to allow these athletes to damage their own health to such a degree by not enforcing a significant level of drug-testing?

Does the IFBB ignore the health and well-being of its athletes, because they need them to look the way they do?

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #130 on: January 17, 2009, 05:42:23 PM »
Do all IFBB pro's use excessive amounts of illegal substances?

Should an organisation, which relies on the athletes to exist, have a vested interest in the health of these athletes?

Is it ethical for the IFBB to allow these athletes to damage their own health to such a degree by not enforcing a significant level of drug-testing?

Does the IFBB ignore the health and well-being of its athletes, because they need them to look the way they do?

1. ALL?  No......SOME...yes.

2. Yes

3. THats a matter of opinion

4. Te health and welfare of the athletes is left up the the athetes...just like every other sport

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #131 on: January 17, 2009, 05:49:49 PM »
1. ALL?  No......SOME...yes.

2. Yes

3. THats a matter of opinion

4. Te health and welfare of the athletes is left up the the athetes...just like every other sport

So, you agree that some pro's use excessive amounts (I suppose it's debatable what's excessive!), and you agree that the IFBB should have an interest in the health of it's athletes.

You replied to Q3 with 'it's a matter of opinion', so what is your opinion?  Do you think the athletes should have more strict drug-testing?  If 'some' of them are using excessive amounts, then wouldn't this be a good thing?

As for Q4, yes athletes are responsible for their own well-being, but in most other sports, they would be drug-tested at regular intervals.  Whilst this does not stop them from using, it would reduce the amount of use.  And anyone in a regular job who was supected of using illegal substances would most likely be suspended/fired.  So is saying it's up to the athletes really just looking the other way?

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #132 on: January 17, 2009, 05:57:52 PM »
So, you agree that some pro's use excessive amounts (I suppose it's debatable what's excessive!), and you agree that the IFBB should have an interest in the health of it's athletes.

You replied to Q3 with 'it's a matter of opinion', so what is your opinion?  Do you think the athletes should have more strict drug-testing?  If 'some' of them are using excessive amounts, then wouldn't this be a good thing?

As for Q4, yes athletes are responsible for their own well-being, but in most other sports, they would be drug-tested at regular intervals.  Whilst this does not stop them from using, it would reduce the amount of use.  And anyone in a regular job who was supected of using illegal substances would most likely be suspended/fired.  So is saying it's up to the athletes really just looking the other way?

Of course some use exsessive amounts...mostly in the amateurs, but there are those who do things stupidly in every corner of life.

Do I think there should be more stringent testing...no.


Trust me...there is no more testing in other sports...it's all a big smokescreen, and a walk on the tightrope to apease those asking for it, and giving the fans what they want, who could really care less what the athletes are using/ not using....


No, it's not looking the other way, it's putting responsibility to adults who should be responsible for themselves....

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #133 on: January 17, 2009, 06:11:03 PM »
Of course some use exsessive amounts...mostly in the amateurs, but there are those who do things stupidly in every corner of life.

Do I think there should be more stringent testing...no.


Trust me...there is no more testing in other sports...it's all a big smokescreen, and a walk on the tightrope to apease those asking for it, and giving the fans what they want, who could really care less what the athletes are using/ not using....


No, it's not looking the other way, it's putting responsibility to adults who should be responsible for themselves....

Putting the responsibility in the hands of the athletes clearly doesn't work though, as they all want to be the best, which requires what the general public would class as excessive drug use.  I'm sure that the amateurs are using ridiculous levels of anabolics, but surely in most cases the biggest guys in the world are using the biggest dosages.  This can be seen when they come off and reduce down drastically in size.

I can understand where you're coming from as athletes rep, you always have to speak in a way which the IFBB would agree with, but saying that there is just as little testing in other sports is a bit misleading.  There are nowhere near the same levels of drug use in other sports.  You could say that 80% of athletes in Sport A are using, but the dosages will be nowhere near that of a bodybuilder.  So with this increased use, comes increased health risk, which should mean increased drug tests.

One last question.  As the sport progresses, and we see bigger and bigger guys onstage, do you think there will ever be a point where the IFBB says enough is enough, or will they continue to allow the drug use as long as they are benefiting from it?

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #134 on: January 17, 2009, 08:25:31 PM »
Don't ask Hard questions or expect a Little Timeout.Chick has the power.

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #135 on: January 17, 2009, 08:29:25 PM »
Don't ask Hard questions or expect a Little Timeout.Chick has the power.

I've noticed the lack of any reply going on here.  I'm not trying to be a dick, and I appreciate him answering the questions, but it's a bit off when he's posting in other threads and ignoring me.

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #136 on: January 17, 2009, 08:39:29 PM »
I've noticed the lack of any reply going on here.  I'm not trying to be a dick, and I appreciate him answering the questions, but it's a bit off when he's posting in other threads and ignoring me.
            Just keep asking or start a New Thread that will almost guarantee you getting TIMEOUT.

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #137 on: January 17, 2009, 08:41:36 PM »
guys be careful w/ what u say about certian people
as ron told me once-there is no freedom of speech in getbig land
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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #138 on: January 19, 2009, 03:03:08 PM »
guys be careful w/ what u say about certian people
as ron told me once-there is no freedom of speech in getbig land
           LOL this question is NEVER answered Drugs are Not used by IFBB Pros.

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #139 on: January 19, 2009, 03:11:42 PM »
More smoke screens from Chick.

It seems like the "Athletes" ::)"Rep" ::) is doing what he does best, stonewall and deflect.

Don't think any straight answers will be given on this subject or any other subject such as Chicks "dealings" in the Mirage Hotel in 1993.

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #140 on: January 19, 2009, 03:16:01 PM »
More smoke screens from Chick.

It seems like the "Athletes" ::)"Rep" ::) is doing what he does best, stonewall and deflect.

Don't think any straight answers will be given on this subject or any other subject such as Chicks "dealings" in the Mirage Hotel in 1993.
          What happened in the Mirage in 93???It's a nice hotel it's a wonder that a Pro would even be there unless a Schmoe or Promoter paid for the Room.

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #141 on: January 19, 2009, 03:18:21 PM »
Rhetorical Question Farley!!!!!!
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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #142 on: January 19, 2009, 03:18:40 PM »
          What happened in the Mirage in 93???It's a nice hotel it's a wonder that a Pro would even be there unless a Schmoe or Promoter paid for the Room.

Go search for it on the forums, we posted the whole exchange a few days ago but Chick deleted it and refused to give us any honest answers.

Chick melted quick and put some good posters in Time Out.

It's been established that Chick can't take the Get Big heat.

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #143 on: January 19, 2009, 03:36:42 PM »
Go search for it on the forums, we posted the whole exchange a few days ago but Chick deleted it and refused to give us any honest answers.

Chick melted quick and put some good posters in Time Out.

It's been established that Chick can't take the Get Big heat.

LOL...what a bunch of schmucks...I wasnt even in vegas in 03....keep me out of all of your gay fantasies, please....BTW....I owned my own gym from 1992 till I turned pro...unlike many others, I actualy WORKED for a living.

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #144 on: January 19, 2009, 03:45:47 PM »
LOL...what a bunch of schmucks...I wasnt even in vegas in 03....keep me out of all of your gay fantasies, please....BTW....I owned my own gym from 1992 till I turned pro...unlike many others, I actualy WORKED for a living.

What do you mean "03"? We are talking about 1993 here, Bob!

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #145 on: January 19, 2009, 03:48:30 PM »
What do you mean "03"? We are talking about 1993 here, Bob!

93...my bad

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #146 on: January 19, 2009, 03:49:17 PM »
Talk about beating a dead horse. ::)

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #147 on: January 19, 2009, 03:50:32 PM »
Is there SOMETHING???

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #148 on: January 19, 2009, 04:07:39 PM »
One last question.  As the sport progresses, and we see bigger and bigger guys onstage, do you think there will ever be a point where the IFBB says enough is enough, or will they continue to allow the drug use as long as they are benefiting from it?

One last question, Bob.

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Re: Does the IFBB have a Drug Rule???
« Reply #149 on: January 19, 2009, 04:08:34 PM »
One last question, Bob.

He won't answer your question because it is to forthcoming, to honest and to much for Bob to handle.