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Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« on: January 31, 2009, 08:40:06 AM »
I am a female that is considering steroid and HGH use. My goal is to shed body fat and develop lean muscle mass while maintaining all of my feminine features. I have been reading a lot about the various side effects in women that use steroids. I need help in finding the right types of steroids and HGH for women and how to dose with minimal side effects. I am 5 feet tall, 33-years old, I currently weigh about 140 lbs., I have 4 children and I do not have any major health issues.

Suggestions and recommendations are appreciated. I am not looking to compete, but to softly transform my body.

Thank in advance,

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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2009, 08:45:43 AM »
unless you plan on making some$$$ with your body in figure, fitness, or bbing. dont risk your health or waste your money. Get on a good diet like the south beach, weight train for 1 hour 5 days a week and do 1 hour of cardio 5 days a week to start.
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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2009, 09:12:10 AM »
unless you plan on making some$$$ with your body in figure, fitness, or bbing. dont risk your health or waste your money. Get on a good diet like the south beach, weight train for 1 hour 5 days a week and do 1 hour of cardio 5 days a week to start.

Pretty hard to beat diet and exercise. :)

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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2009, 10:25:15 AM »
unless you plan on making some$$$ with your body in figure, fitness, or bbing. dont risk your health or waste your money. Get on a good diet like the south beach, weight train for 1 hour 5 days a week and do 1 hour of cardio 5 days a week to start.
What this guy said.

Stay away from the chemicals unless youare going to compete, nothing beats a good diet and hard work.
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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2009, 11:10:14 AM »
Mimi these guys are right. 

My goal is to shed body fat and develop lean muscle mass while maintaining all of my feminine features.



Suggestions and recommendations are appreciated. I am not looking to compete, but to softly transform my body.



You say the above are your goals, then I do not recommend you use ANYTHING AT ALL other than glutamine, a fat-burner like Lipo6 and maybe Amino Acids. 

What you need to do is work out hard and eat clean. 

You say you've read about side effects of steroids in women...have you seen pictures? To each their own though.   I don't know what all they use but if you stick with over the counter stuff you should be OK.  You will maintain all of your feminine features.

It's about hard work and diet to get you to your goal.


I dieted for 10 weeks and saw a huge difference in my body.  I took one Lipo6 in the morning before my workout.  After my workout (5 days a week) I had a serving of glutamine in water.

3 weeks before my show my trainer told me I should have been taking Amino Acids.  I went to the health store and got some and took them...I think it was like 6 a day or something.   

I took no illegal drugs, steroids, etc.

I lost body fat and gained/maintained lean muscle.

Hard work and clean eating.  You don't need that other stuff for the goals you stated.

10 weeks of dieting:




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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2009, 11:19:10 AM »
Too skinny! >:(

What happened to tha booty?!? :'(

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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2009, 11:21:29 AM »
Too skinny! >:(

What happened to tha booty?!? :'(
It's kinna flat :-\

Yes, I was very lean.   My husband preferred me about 5 weeks into the diet.  Then as veins came out in my stomach he didn't find it very appealing.
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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2009, 11:26:35 AM »
It's kinna flat :-\

Yes, I was very lean.   My husband preferred me about 5 weeks into the diet.  Then as veins came out in my stomach he didn't find it very appealing.

Poor guy.

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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2009, 11:52:41 AM »
I am not totally familiar with "Clean Eating"? I have been struggling with abdominal fat for a long time, since I had my last child 8-years ago. I have taken fat burners, I currently take Amino's, ZMA's, Egg Protein, Multi's, Omega's, Nitric Oxide and additional Folic Acid, Zinc, Lysine and Iron. I suffer from cold sores so I have to what how much L-Arganine I take in. From time to time I will take a Probiotic and do the Master Cleanse.

My husband has been thinking about trying a few cycles and we where going to try it out together. We had watched "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" and learned a lot from that. The one thing that we discovered is that I can not take the same stuff my husband would take.

I currently workout 7 days a week, I dance for about 1.5 hours or I get on the Elliptical Machine for 30 minutes and then I weight train for about 45 minutes to 1 hour. I alternate upper body and lower body and I alternate heavy workout days and light workout days to avoid overtraining and causing injuries. I light medium to heavy for my height, build and size.

I feel like I have hit a wall and I am not burning the fat off the way I want to.

Getting Frustrated & Impatient ???

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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2009, 11:59:57 AM »
I am not totally familiar with "Clean Eating"? I have been struggling with abdominal fat for a long time, since I had my last child 8-years ago. I have taken fat burners, I currently take Amino's, ZMA's, Egg Protein, Multi's, Omega's, Nitric Oxide and additional Folic Acid, Zinc, Lysine and Iron. I suffer from cold sores so I have to what how much L-Arganine I take in. From time to time I will take a Probiotic and do the Master Cleanse.

My husband has been thinking about trying a few cycles and we where going to try it out together. We had watched "Bigger, Faster, Stronger" and learned a lot from that. The one thing that we discovered is that I can not take the same stuff my husband would take.

I currently workout 7 days a week, I dance for about 1.5 hours or I get on the Elliptical Machine for 30 minutes and then I weight train for about 45 minutes to 1 hour. I alternate upper body and lower body and I alternate heavy workout days and light workout days to avoid overtraining and causing injuries. I light medium to heavy for my height, build and size.

I feel like I have hit a wall and I am not burning the fat off the way I want to.

Getting Frustrated & Impatient ???

Eating clean is what is going to make you see results.

I'd say it's about 80% - 90% of the battle.

For instance off the top of my head I ate a diet like this for about 7 weeks:


Meal 1:

6 egg whites, 1/2 cup oatmeal

Meal 2:

about 5 oz chicken breast w/ about 5oz sweet potato

Meal 3:

Protein shake

Meal 4:

Orange Roughy, steamed asparagus and 1/2 c. brown rice

Meal 5:

4 egg whites, 1/2 apple

Meal 6 (optional)

Protein shake


It was something like that.  No butter, no sauces etc.  I would use I can't believes it's not butter spray and one packet of splenda and some ground cinnamon on my oatmeal.  I would use ~ one T. of flax oil and one packet of splenda in my brown rice.   Sometimes I had strawberries in my shake or had Ezekial toast in place of the 1/2 apple.  I also sprinkled some balsamic vinegar on my chicken and sweet potato meal.

You do a diet like this for 10 - 14 weeks and you'll be right where you want to be I think.  In fact, maybe only do it for 7 weeks and you'll be very pleased :)



The last 3 weeks of my diet had low, med and higher carb days and I haven't been able to find it.  My trainer really knows what she is doing!  She could give you a diet designed for your body type but of course things of value like this cost money.  But it seems you're ready to spend money to see improvements anyway.

If you use drugs and don't eat clean I think you're still not going to accomplish the goals that you have.  You HAVE to eat clean.
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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2009, 12:06:38 PM »
I also suggest you subscribe to Oxygen Magazine.  There are good workouts and eating plans in there and it is a very motivating, inspirational magazine as well.

In addition, they put out a magazine called "Clean Eating."  It has several "clean" recipes per issue...if you don't want to do a strict diet like the one I posted above,...a "Clean Eating" issue will give you more variety from which to choose.
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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2009, 12:10:28 PM »
Mimi these guys are right. 

You say the above are your goals, then I do not recommend you use ANYTHING AT ALL other than glutamine, a fat-burner like Lipo6 and maybe Amino Acids. 

What you need to do is work out hard and eat clean. 

You say you've read about side effects of steroids in women...have you seen pictures? To each their own though.   I don't know what all they use but if you stick with over the counter stuff you should be OK.  You will maintain all of your feminine features.

It's about hard work and diet to get you to your goal.


I dieted for 10 weeks and saw a huge difference in my body.  I took one Lipo6 in the morning before my workout.  After my workout (5 days a week) I had a serving of glutamine in water.

3 weeks before my show my trainer told me I should have been taking Amino Acids.  I went to the health store and got some and took them...I think it was like 6 a day or something.   

I took no illegal drugs, steroids, etc.

I lost body fat and gained/maintained lean muscle.

Hard work and clean eating.  You don't need that other stuff for the goals you stated.

10 weeks of dieting:

Stella is right mimi, take her advice. 

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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2009, 12:20:19 PM »
Thanks Stella!

I just did a Google search for books on Clean Eating and I found a book by Tosca Reno called "The Eat-Clean Diet Cookbook". I placed an order for it.

Any other ideas and suggestions; I am all ears ;D

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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2009, 12:26:12 PM »
Thanks Stella!

I just did a Google search for books on Clean Eating and I found a book by Tosca Reno called "The Eat-Clean Diet Cookbook". I placed an order for it.

Any other ideas and suggestions; I am all ears ;D

Yes!  That is one you want!  Tosca is in Oxygen a lot too.

Definitely consider subscribing to Oxygen and Clean Eating Magazines.

Oxygen really helped me get through my contest prep. 

I keep my issues so I can always go back through them. 

You should have one at your grocery...go take a look and buy it.  I am pretty sure you'll want to subscribe! :)
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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2009, 12:32:19 PM »
is that you in that pic Stella?

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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2009, 12:40:55 PM »
Okay, I will look through the book and begin putting a eating plan into place.

But, just out of curiosity and for the hell of it; if I still wanted to use synthetics, what would be recommended for a female?

I have been reading that HGH is not as bad as steroids, and I am finding out additional information about DHEA. Can anyone help me with these inquiries?

I like to know what all of my options are, so I can make the best choice for me. I am taking everything that everyone is telling me into account. All advice and suggestions are helpful and appreciated.

Thanks,
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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2009, 12:43:16 PM »
Okay, I will look through the book and begin putting a eating plan into place.

But, just out of curiosity and for the hell of it; if I still wanted to use synthetics, what would be recommended for a female?

I have been reading that HGH is not as bad as steroids, and I am finding out additional information about DHEA. Can anyone help me with these inquiries?

I like to know what all of my options are, so I can make the best choice for me. I am taking everything that everyone is telling me into account. All advice and suggestions are helpful and appreciated.

Thanks,
Mimi6
it's your body and your life, do what you want, none of anyone's business what you put into your body, understand though that there are always side effects with these substances.

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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2009, 01:02:40 PM »
MMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmMMMM MMM....... :P ;)
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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2009, 01:45:06 PM »
It's kinna flat :-\

Yes, I was very lean.   My husband preferred me about 5 weeks into the diet.  Then as veins came out in my stomach he didn't find it very appealing.

what a jerk!  lol  :P

wait..there was a booty pic somewhere?

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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2009, 01:55:20 PM »
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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2009, 01:58:05 PM »
wait..there was a booty pic somewhere?

What he said^  ;D
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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2009, 02:40:08 PM »
is that you in that pic Stella?
It used to be  :'(

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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2009, 02:44:58 PM »
Okay, I will look through the book and begin putting a eating plan into place.

But, just out of curiosity and for the hell of it; if I still wanted to use synthetics, what would be recommended for a female?

I have been reading that HGH is not as bad as steroids, and I am finding out additional information about DHEA. Can anyone help me with these inquiries?

I like to know what all of my options are, so I can make the best choice for me. I am taking everything that everyone is telling me into account. All advice and suggestions are helpful and appreciated.

Thanks,
Mimi6

it's your body and your life, do what you want, none of anyone's business what you put into your body, understand though that there are always side effects with these substances.

Mimi, Quaker Oats is right, it's totally your choice what you want to do and no one else's business.  But I would suggest attempting to diet down first.

I have no idea about synthetics or DHEA or HGH stuff.  You may get good advice on the Steroid board or even the women's training board possibly.

But consider dieting down w/o it first.  Competitors look so lean whether they use or not because they have dieted.  Those things you are talking about are not going to magically make you lean and muscular as far as I know.  Competitors still work their butts off and are extremely disciplined in their eating.



what a jerk!  lol  :P

wait..there was a booty pic somewhere?
Nope!
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Re: Help Needed: Thinking about using steroids & HGH
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2009, 02:58:41 PM »
dang it, i got my hopes up lol