the only thing i said is this, and i only made it for naturals, not juice junkies.
1- supplements are junk
2- anything about .8-1g protein lb bw is a waste and pointless
3- eats plenty of complex carbs, avoid simple.
4- weight train and do cardio.
what is so complicated about that?
#2 is what most people are so confused about. You cant force your body to use more protein than it can.
Once again, we have the “natural” excuse for not increasing your protein intake.
Again, I can tell you first hand, to get my bodyweight over 200 lbs, it took jacking my protein levels to about 320-350 grams per day. I did this back in college, when the only thing I could afford, outside of regular food, was Mega Mass 2000 and GNC’s Challenge Milk and Egg protein powder.
That semester was spring 1996. I started at 189 lb and ended up at 210 in about 3
1/2 months.
5000 calories isn't that hard to consume, as you can get nearly half of that from a decent weight gainer, as I did years ago. And, the gainers today are of better quality than those from the early/mid 90s (which pretty much refutes your "supplements are junk" spiel"). Ectomorphs with fast metabolisms will likely have to drink half their calories, to get their bodyweight up.
So, the whole steroid excuse for not eating higher protein levels holds no water.