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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #150 on: March 01, 2009, 08:18:24 PM »
Are you kidding?  Your quote says there may not be a "significant hazard."  That actually supports what I've been saying:  a little harmful substance is still harmful.  You're talking about degree.  I'm not.  If the study said there are no harmful effects from ingesting "minute quantities of carcinogens," then that would support your theory. 

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #152 on: March 01, 2009, 08:33:57 PM »
I disagree.  Putting harmful things in your body in moderation is still harming your body.  People can choose to put whatever legal substances they want in their body, either excessively or in moderation, but if the substance is harmful using it in moderation is a problem (from a health standpoint).   

Bum,

from what you've posted on this board you seem to be a vegetarian and perhaps even a vegan (i.e. not sure if you eat honey)

would you put fish or meat in the category of "harmful substance"?

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #153 on: March 01, 2009, 08:41:17 PM »
What kills more each year cigarettes or weed?

Alcohol or weed?

Com on.  There are many things that are harmful, but to what degree?  Weed is pretty much harmless when put in the perspective of things like what i mentioned.

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #154 on: March 01, 2009, 08:47:10 PM »
What kills more each year cigarettes or weed?

Alcohol or weed?

Com on.  There are many things that are harmful, but to what degree?  Weed is pretty much harmless when put in the perspective of things like what i mentioned.

red meat or weed?

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #155 on: March 01, 2009, 09:07:11 PM »
Red meat kills MANY more people per year than Marijuana does.


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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #156 on: March 01, 2009, 09:12:43 PM »
Red meat kills MANY more people per year than Marijuana does.

I think Bum would probably agree

but goddam bacon taste good

wait, that's not even red meat

still bacon....


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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #157 on: March 01, 2009, 09:14:48 PM »
Bum,

from what you've posted on this board you seem to be a vegetarian and perhaps even a vegan (i.e. not sure if you eat honey)

would you put fish or meat in the category of "harmful substance"?

Depends on your definition of harm.  I don't put food in the same category as drugs.  But you should read The China Study and reach your own conclusions. 

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #158 on: March 01, 2009, 09:17:48 PM »
What kills more each year cigarettes or weed?

Alcohol or weed?

Com on.  There are many things that are harmful, but to what degree?  Weed is pretty much harmless when put in the perspective of things like what i mentioned.

Probably less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol, but that doesn't make it harmless.  That's an overstatement. 

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #159 on: March 01, 2009, 09:18:20 PM »
Depends on your definition of harm.  I don't put food in the same category as drugs.  But you should read The China Study and reach your own conclusions. 

what's your definition of harm

does a meat based diet have a greater chance of causing harm (say heart disease, stroke, cancer,etc..) than smoking pot?

how about eating products made with pot butter or oil?

how about a strict vegan who eats the occasional pot brownie?

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« Reply #160 on: March 01, 2009, 09:18:26 PM »
Depends on your definition of harm.  I don't put food in the same category as drugs.  But you should read The China Study and reach your own conclusions. 


Food and drugs are usually interchangeable. Many foods contain drugs. And many foods affect the body in the same ways.

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #161 on: March 01, 2009, 09:18:32 PM »
Depends on your definition of harm.  I don't put food in the same category as drugs.  But you should read The China Study and reach your own conclusions. 

Are you sure you aren't high right now?

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #162 on: March 01, 2009, 09:19:23 PM »

Food and drugs are usually interchangeable. Many foods contain drugs. And many foods affect the body in the same ways.

exactly

even exercise can have effects greater than drug "therapy"

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #163 on: March 01, 2009, 09:28:12 PM »
what's your definition of harm

does a meat based diet have a greater chance of causing harm (say heart disease, stroke, cancer,etc..) than smoking pot?

how about eating products made with pot butter or oil?

how about a strict vegan who eats the occasional pot brownie?

Does a meat-based diet increase the risk of heart disease and certain cancers?  Yes.  From that standpoint is it "harmful"?  Of course.  Dr. Colin Campbell's research actually ties diseases to animal protein.  It is the foods we eat and lives we lead that result in the diseases that kill us most in the U.S. (heart disease and cancer).     

The rest of your questions are just dumb.   

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #164 on: March 01, 2009, 09:32:20 PM »
Does a meat-based diet increase the risk of heart disease and certain cancers?  Yes.  From that standpoint is it "harmful"?  Of course.  Dr. Colin Campbell's research actually ties diseases to animal protein.  It is the foods we eat and lives we lead that result in the diseases that kill us most in the U.S. (heart disease and cancer).     

The rest of your questions are just dumb.
   

why is asking you about a vegan eating food made with pot butter dumb?

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #165 on: March 01, 2009, 09:33:30 PM »
Probably less harmful than cigarettes and alcohol, but that doesn't make it harmless.  That's an overstatement. 

Not really, when put in perspective.  We don't consider the many things we eat harmless, yet by definition they are.

By another perspective, anything we eat or drink or inhale is harmful, otherwise we wouldn't die.   ;D

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #166 on: March 01, 2009, 09:35:26 PM »
Not really, when put in perspective.  We don't consider the many things we eat harmless, yet by definition they are.

By another perspective, anything we eat or drink or inhale is harmful, otherwise we wouldn't die.   ;D

wouldn't I die quicker eating nothing than eating steak and eggs ever day

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #167 on: March 01, 2009, 09:40:42 PM »

Food and drugs are usually interchangeable. Many foods contain drugs. And many foods affect the body in the same ways.

That's crazy.  They're not "usually interchangeable."  When I mentioned drugs I was talking about cocaine, heroin, LSD, marijuana, etc.  Food is not "usually interchangeable" with those drugs, especially plant foods.  

What foods are hallucinogens?  ::)

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #168 on: March 01, 2009, 09:42:13 PM »
Are you sure you aren't high right now?

Are you masturbating to a Ron Paul picture or is that every other day? 

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #169 on: March 01, 2009, 09:45:55 PM »
Not really, when put in perspective.  We don't consider the many things we eat harmless, yet by definition they are.

By another perspective, anything we eat or drink or inhale is harmful, otherwise we wouldn't die.   ;D

Comparing a harmful substance to something else doesn't make it any less harmful.  Yes we (society) consider many things we eat harmless, but that doesn't make it true. 

I'm sure you could come up with a list of things that we eat or drink that isn't harmful.   

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #170 on: March 01, 2009, 10:01:31 PM »
Are you masturbating to a Ron Paul picture or is that every other day? 

lame, sprinkled with bitter

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« Reply #171 on: March 01, 2009, 10:06:37 PM »
lame, sprinkled with bitter

Incoherent. 

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #172 on: March 02, 2009, 05:33:19 AM »
I disagree.  Putting harmful things in your body in moderation is still harming your body.  People can choose to put whatever legal substances they want in their body, either excessively or in moderation, but if the substance is harmful using it in moderation is a problem (from a health standpoint).   

I feel a little dumber after reading this...(and many other post from this Bum)
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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #173 on: March 02, 2009, 07:38:33 AM »
I feel a little dumber after reading this...(and many other post from this Bum)

lol.  Okay Benjamin Button.  You're not going to let some clip do your thinking for you?   :)

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Re: tax Marijuana to save the economy?
« Reply #174 on: March 02, 2009, 08:01:45 AM »
lol.  Okay Benjamin Button.  You're not going to let some clip do your thinking for you?   :)

Honestly, after seeing the skit from CNBC called "Marajuana Inc." we really need to legalize pot and start making this a money generating enterprise instead of a endless pit of tax money.