Author Topic: So I saw this Personal trainer do this.... (Read 4585 times)

Stark · « **on:** April 12, 2009, 03:53:10 AM »

he made one of his clients sit dead straight while doing wide latpulldown, so the guy was not pulling back he was pulling down

johnnynoname · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2009, 03:55:42 AM »

...and that schmuck pays his PT at the end of the day no matter what

and that schmuck isn't ANY the wiser

look guys, it isn't always fair or right...but it is business and the mark/client is NEVER the wiser

webcake · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2009, 03:55:43 AM »

Quote from: Stark on April 12, 2009, 03:53:10 AM

he made one of his clients sit dead straight while doing wide latpulldown, so the guy was not pulling back he was pulling down

Nothing special, i see it all the time.

Stark · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2009, 04:00:37 AM »

Quote from: webcke on April 12, 2009, 03:55:43 AM

Nothing special, i do that all the time.

what muscle do you train by doing that?

Quickerblade · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2009, 04:01:17 AM »

Quote from: Stark on April 12, 2009, 04:00:37 AM

what muscle do you train by doing that?

lats

webcake · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2009, 04:03:18 AM »

Quote from: Stark on April 12, 2009, 04:00:37 AM

what muscle do you train by doing that?

You don't have to lean right back, nor do you have to stay perfectly upright.

When i show people i tell them to keep their eyes on the top pulley right on top of the machine. Makes them lean back a little, but not excessively.

MAXX · « **Reply #6 on:** April 12, 2009, 04:05:04 AM »

Quote from: webcke on April 12, 2009, 04:03:18 AM

You don't have to lean right back, nor do you have to stay perfectly upright.

When i show people i tell them to keep their eyes on the top pulley right on top of the machine. Makes them lean back a little, but not excessively.

that's exactly what i do to.

beef-sword · « **Reply #7 on:** April 12, 2009, 04:08:59 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on April 12, 2009, 04:05:04 AM

that's exactly what i do to.

ah...so this MUST be the right way...

Stark · « **Reply #8 on:** April 12, 2009, 04:09:02 AM »

Quote from: webcke on April 12, 2009, 04:03:18 AM

You don't have to lean right back, nor do you have to stay perfectly upright.

When i show people i tell them to keep their eyes on the top pulley right on top of the machine. Makes them lean back a little, but not excessively.

YES YES YES thats how I learned it too,

Stark · « **Reply #9 on:** April 12, 2009, 04:09:50 AM »

Quote from: Quickerblade on April 12, 2009, 04:01:17 AM

lats

Im possible you don't train lats by sitting straight and pullung the latbar straight down use your head

affeman · « **Reply #10 on:** April 12, 2009, 10:26:42 AM »

Quote from: Stark on April 12, 2009, 03:53:10 AM

he made one of his clients sit dead straight while doing wide latpulldown, so the guy was not pulling back he was pulling down

Ehm, pulling down is the point of Lat pulldowns.

Pulling back is the point of rowing movements.

chaos · « **Reply #11 on:** April 12, 2009, 10:32:00 AM »

Quote from: Stark on April 12, 2009, 04:09:50 AM

Im possible you don't train lats by sitting straight and pullung the latbar straight down use your head

Sure you do, have you ever tried it? Also I've leaned forward and pulled down behind my neck, works well too.

kiwiol · « **Reply #12 on:** April 12, 2009, 10:36:45 AM »

Quote from: Stark on April 12, 2009, 04:09:50 AM

Im possible you don't train lats by sitting straight and pullung the latbar straight down use your head

Not at all, Stark - sitting dead straight isn't ineffective or anything, although the conventional method to do lat pull downs is to lean back a little. A lat pulldown is biomechanically similar to doing a pull up or a chin-up, so keeping the torso completely upright won't render the movement useless. As long as you use your lats to control the weight while using your arms as levers and keep your shoulders retracted, it's fine.

affeman · « **Reply #13 on:** April 12, 2009, 10:37:07 AM »

"Stark" showing us how it's done correctly:

Ursus · « **Reply #14 on:** April 12, 2009, 10:39:52 AM »

nothing wrong with that at all i pull down

peroni · « **Reply #15 on:** April 12, 2009, 11:47:16 AM »

Quote from: Stark on April 12, 2009, 03:53:10 AM

he made one of his clients sit dead straight while doing wide latpulldown, so the guy was not pulling back he was pulling down

you're supposed to sit up straight fool. That's why it's a LAT pull down. You retract the shoulder blades to keep the shoulders from shrugging at the top of the motion and then you pull down as if you're doing a pull up. This engages the LATS. Lean back and see how much lat you use... you may as well do cable rows because that's all you're doing...

keep bashing trainers fellas.

Fury · « **Reply #16 on:** April 12, 2009, 11:50:34 AM »

Quote from: peroni on April 12, 2009, 11:47:16 AM

you're supposed to sit up straight fool. That's why it's a LAT pull down. You retract the shoulder blades to keep the shoulders from shrugging at the top of the motion and then you pull down as if you're doing a pull up. This engages the LATS. Lean back and see how much lat you use... you may as well do cable rows because that's all you're doing...

keep bashing trainers fellas.

Forgive Stark, he's acting like he actually works out.

burn2live · « **Reply #17 on:** April 12, 2009, 11:52:55 AM »

I do them sitting straight?

dr.chimps · « **Reply #18 on:** April 12, 2009, 11:57:16 AM »

Probably the #1 exercise I see being done wrong in our gym. I've only seen one trainer demonstrate it correctly. $:-\$

wavelength · « **Reply #19 on:** April 12, 2009, 12:00:04 PM »

I always thought the back muscle must be used for any exercise where arms are pulled down. Physically, there's really no other way.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 12, 2009, 12:01:42 PM »

Quote from: Stark on April 12, 2009, 03:53:10 AM

he made one of his clients sit dead straight while doing wide latpulldown, so the guy was not pulling back he was pulling down

that's how everybody at my gym does lat pull downs

except me of course

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NaturalWonder83 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 12, 2009, 12:07:59 PM »

Dballn247 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 12, 2009, 12:10:16 PM »

I once saw a personal trainer give one of his female clients some GHB, telling her it would lean her up. A few months later he ended up with rape charges.

Stark · « **Reply #23 on:** April 12, 2009, 12:25:51 PM »

Quote from: peroni on April 12, 2009, 11:47:16 AM

you're supposed to sit up straight fool. That's why it's a LAT pull down. You retract the shoulder blades to keep the shoulders from shrugging at the top of the motion and then you pull down as if you're doing a pull up. This engages the LATS. Lean back and see how much lat you use... you may as well do cable rows because that's all you're doing...

keep bashing trainers fellas.

You're an idiot

I said AND LISTEN UP NOW! he makes him sit straight to pull the weight straight down not to the chest DOWN

And you don't sit straight when you do latpulldowns - you lean slighlty back - trust me I know this better than you

Ursus · « **Reply #24 on:** April 12, 2009, 12:27:35 PM »

i think you are mistaken also stark i sit up straight