Did America Land On The Moon

[OzmO]

what was debunked?  by who?  The stadium lights reflection?  Check that out in the first clip.  In the second clip, listen to the audio from the walk.  It sounds clear and sounds like there is enough of a voice echo to reflect voices in a room.  Doesn't sound anything like Russian and US space to earth communications which are much more scratchy. The hard line of the earth in the background?  The speed of the craft as stated doesn't match the light changes even close.  Even if that was an ice crystal, it rolls up and around the curvature of the face shield and then up and away increasing speed after rolling around the face shield.  No freaking way that is happening.  This space walk was bogus.

"soundly debunked"  lol ozmo, lol...

It was a while back when you were in retirement.  Serious.   

[loco]

Buzz Aldrin Punches Moon-landing Conspiracy Theorist



Bart Sibrel, a conspiracy theorist who believes that NASA faked the moon landing, confronted retired astronaut Buzz Aldrin on September 9, 2002.

"You're a coward," he exclaimed, "and a liar, ..."

At that point, Aldrin (age 72) landed a spirited punch to Sibrel's jaw.

The Los Angeles County District Attorney's office has declined to file charges.

http://www.csicop.org/articles/20021018-aldrin/

[Hugo Chavez]

another thing that is a giveaway, look at the lighting, everything is so all around well lit like the light is defused.  Look at any legit space walk, there is not that defused lighting.  What would cause a defused lighting like that?  WATER!

I found the soundly debunked thread lol  Soundly debunked by The Luke!  haha...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=246702.25

[Hugo Chavez]

It was a while back when you were in retirement.  Serious.   

I posted the thread, epic memory...

[240 is Back]

I wonder if there is some credible source exposing this.

Here is the problem.

ozmo is dependent upon a "credible source" to debunk things. In other words, until the US govt comes out with a statement calling them out for it, he won't believe it.

If we embarassed them on such a global level, they would retaliate, probably by stopping some of this debt purchase hilary's been kissing their ass so much to continue.

Oz, ya gotta realize there is no way govts are going to call out other govts for things like that.

[OzmO]

I posted the thread, epic memory...

Being an epic ass today?

Then pull the thread up. 


http://www.astroengine.com/?p=1531

[OzmO]

Here is the problem.

ozmo is dependent upon a "credible source" to debunk things. In other words, until the US govt comes out with a statement calling them out for it, he won't believe it.

If we embarassed them on such a global level, they would retaliate, probably by stopping some of this debt purchase hilary's been kissing their ass so much to continue.

Oz, ya gotta realize there is no way govts are going to call out other govts for things like that.

You mean like i don't use the same "credible source" you used with the hologram theory?

The only embarrassment is CT mentality.

I'm using my head.  Unlike many people here.

[240 is Back]

http://www.astroengine.com/?p=1531

lots of politics discussed here.

Suddenly if you laugh at the video, you're pro-Taiwan, etc.  Why politicize things, Oz?

Interesting...
A few hours before the launch of the Shenzhou spacecraft, the state-controlled news website Xinhuanet published an article documenting the successful orbital insertion of the three-man crew. A transcript of the future conversation between mission control and the Shenzhou 7 module appeared online due to a “technical error.” (A pretty big error if you ask me.) Even before the engines had ignited the conspiracy theories were on fire! And rightly so. Who’s to say this transcript wouldn’t have been issued regardless of mission success or failure? So, China was already on its back-foot, the launch was viewed with utmost suspicion.

[Hugo Chavez]

Being an epic ass today?

Then pull the thread up. 


http://www.astroengine.com/?p=1531

I already did, it's linked above.

[240 is Back]

The only embarrassment is CT mentality.

"CT mentality" = understanding that groups will tell big lies in order to legitimize and further their agendas.

IMO, the real embarassment is ppl who fail to see that, and swallow everything they're fed unless, drum roll please... it's delivered from a "credible source".

[SAMSON123]

Where are you getting these figures from?  Your ass?  Radio waves travel at the speed of light.  All electromagnetic radiation (including light and radio) travels at the speed of light.

I'm watching Mythbusters right now as they systematically destroy the myths that the moon landing was a hoax, one by one.

Here is something for you all to think about. These claimes of light traveling at 186,000 MPS are based on VACUUM SPACE...not real space. These light tests are done in laboratories in IDEAL conditions. As electromagnetic waves travel in space (be it the atmosphere of earth or the atmosphere of space) it collides with all manner of matter be it DARK MATTER, free electrons, protons and neutrons, Neutrinos, other electromagnetic energies (natural light and radio waves), gravitational forces, not to forget planetary gravitation, gravitational anomolies etc etc. Given all of this...it is impossible for any kind of electromagnetic energy to maintain a constant speed. The analogy would be a sprinter running on the ground at top speed and then suddenly running in the ocean and somehow this runner would still be able to maintain the exact same speed...IMPOSSIBLE. So the same in space. There is masive amounts of 'INTERFERENCE" in space that would slow electromagnetic energy down considerably as well as deteriorate its strength.

Now here is another thought to consider. As a electromagnetic signal is sent out there must also be a part of that signal's energy slated for "pushing" that signal forward. Following the scientific logic (which is illogical to quote Spock) how can a signal be "pushed" forever without that portion of the energy of that signal responsible for the "push" being consumed/exhausted??? It is impossible. What essentially is being said is that somehow this 'PUSH" energy is perpetually replaced to keep the signal going despite all...

Any of you SMART ASSES can answer if you are so inclined...I expect rhetoric from Ozmo, Dan-O and hereford

[Hugo Chavez]

ozmo, go on youtube and look at several legit space walks.  Check out the video of our first space walk and Russia's.  Check out the several others uploaded there.  Look at the lighting.  Then look at the very defused soft lighting of the chinese space walk.  WATER.

[OzmO]

"CT mentality" = understanding that groups will tell big lies in order to legitimize and further their agendas.

IMO, the real embarassment is ppl who fail to see that, and swallow everything they're fed unless, drum roll please... it's delivered from a "credible source".

NO.  CT mentality letting emotion and lack of knowledge determine facts combined with flawed logic.

Embarrassment:  

1.  The moon landing was faked
2.  9/11 was an inside job

[Hugo Chavez]

Here is something for you all to think about. These claimes of light traveling at 186,000 MPS are based on VACUUM SPACE...not real space. These light tests are done in laboratories in IDEAL conditions. As electromagnetic waves travel in space (be it the atmosphere of earth or the atmosphere of space) it collides with all manner of matter be it DARK MATTER, free electrons, protons and neutrons, Neutrinos, other electromagnetic energies (natural light and radio waves), gravitational forces, not to forget planetary gravitation, gravitational anomolies etc etc. Given all of this...it is impossible for any kind of electromagnetic energy to maintain a constant speed. The analogy would be a sprinter running on the ground at top speed and then suddenly running in the ocean and somehow this runner would still be able to maintain the exact same speed...IMPOSSIBLE. So the same in space. There is masive amounts of 'INTERFERENCE" in space that would slow electromagnetic energy down considerably as well as deteriorate its strength.

Now here is another thought to consider. As a electromagnetic signal is sent out there must also be a part of that signal's energy slated for "pushing" that signal forward. Following the scientific logic (which is illogical to quote Spock) how can a signal be "pushed" forever without that portion of the energy of that signal responsible for the "push" being consumed/exhausted??? It is impossible. What essentially is being said is that somehow this 'PUSH" energy is perpetually replaced to keep the signal going despite all...

Any of you SMART ASSES can answer if you are so inclined...I expect rhetoric from Ozmo, Dan-O and hereford

OMG, lol, you won't recover...

[Hugo Chavez]

NO.  CT mentality letting emotion and lack of knowledge determine facts combined with flawed logic.

Embarrassment:  

1.  The moon landing was faked
2.  9/11 was an inside job

yet you look to a person who believes in bigfoot for your proof that the accusations against China's spacewalk have been soundly debunked

[OzmO]

ozmo, go on youtube and look at several legit space walks.  Check out the video of our first space walk and Russia's.  Check out the several others uploaded there.  Look at the lighting.  Then look at the very defused soft lighting of the chinese space walk.  WATER.

If that's the case 99% of every scientist in the world should have been sounding the alarm.  Are they all in on it too?

But here we are, internet Einstiens studying grainy low res. vids.....

[Hereford]

Here is something for you all to think about. These claimes of light traveling at 186,000 MPS are based on VACUUM SPACE...not real space. These light tests are done in laboratories in IDEAL conditions. As electromagnetic waves travel in space (be it the atmosphere of earth or the atmosphere of space) it collides with all manner of matter be it DARK MATTER, free electrons, protons and neutrons, Neutrinos, other electromagnetic energies (natural light and radio waves), gravitational forces, not to forget planetary gravitation, gravitational anomolies etc etc. Given all of this...it is impossible for any kind of electromagnetic energy to maintain a constant speed. The analogy would be a sprinter running on the ground at top speed and then suddenly running in the ocean and somehow this runner would still be able to maintain the exact same speed...IMPOSSIBLE. So the same in space. There is masive amounts of 'INTERFERENCE" in space that would slow electromagnetic energy down considerably as well as deteriorate its strength.

Now here is another thought to consider. As a electromagnetic signal is sent out there must also be a part of that signal's energy slated for "pushing" that signal forward. Following the scientific logic (which is illogical to quote Spock) how can a signal be "pushed" forever without that portion of the energy of that signal responsible for the "push" being consumed/exhausted??? It is impossible. What essentially is being said is that somehow this 'PUSH" energy is perpetually replaced to keep the signal going despite all...

Any of you SMART ASSES can answer if you are so inclined...I expect rhetoric from Ozmo, Dan-O and hereford

Shit, makes sense to me dude.

Good post.

[SAMSON123]

OMG, lol, you won't recover...

THey won't RECOVER...lol

Now I want answers...AND I WANT THEM NOW!!!!

[OzmO]

Here is something for you all to think about. These claimes of light traveling at 186,000 MPS are based on VACUUM SPACE...not real space. These light tests are done in laboratories in IDEAL conditions. As electromagnetic waves travel in space (be it the atmosphere of earth or the atmosphere of space) it collides with all manner of matter be it DARK MATTER, free electrons, protons and neutrons, Neutrinos, other electromagnetic energies (natural light and radio waves), gravitational forces, not to forget planetary gravitation, gravitational anomolies etc etc. Given all of this...it is impossible for any kind of electromagnetic energy to maintain a constant speed. The analogy would be a sprinter running on the ground at top speed and then suddenly running in the ocean and somehow this runner would still be able to maintain the exact same speed...IMPOSSIBLE. So the same in space. There is masive amounts of 'INTERFERENCE" in space that would slow electromagnetic energy down considerably as well as deteriorate its strength.

Now here is another thought to consider. As a electromagnetic signal is sent out there must also be a part of that signal's energy slated for "pushing" that signal forward. Following the scientific logic (which is illogical to quote Spock) how can a signal be "pushed" forever without that portion of the energy of that signal responsible for the "push" being consumed/exhausted??? It is impossible. What essentially is being said is that somehow this 'PUSH" energy is perpetually replaced to keep the signal going despite all...

Any of you SMART ASSES can answer if you are so inclined...I expect rhetoric from Ozmo, Dan-O and hereford

What are your sources?  Or did you just pull this out of your ass?

[SAMSON123]

What are your sources?  Or did you just pull this out of your ass?

Sources???...did you not realize I asked a QUESTION???

When you provide a answer I will ask WHERE ARE YOUR SOURCES??

[OzmO]

Gee i donno all these people say they travel the speed of light:

http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/projects/vss/docs/Communications/2-why-does-it-take-so-long.html

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book10/40a.htm

http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/waves_particles/lightspeed-1.html

http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_sp_en.html

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090329133240AAkPAJ2

http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefArticle.aspx?refid=761555000

This conspiracy is HUGE!  All these people and organizations must be in on it too.  

And this was only the first page on the google search!

[OzmO]

Sources???...did you not realize I asked a QUESTION???

When you provide a answer I will ask WHERE ARE YOUR SOURCES??

I bet its some crack pot place you got that from like prisonplanet.

[OzmO]

yet you look to a person who believes in bigfoot for your proof that the accusations against China's spacewalk have been soundly debunked

Who believes in Bigfoot?  Luke? 

[240 is Back]

I bet its some crack pot place you got that from like prisonplanet.

see, you're doing it again.

PP spent the last 18 months with Schiff and Ron Paul talking about the upcoming financial meltdown.

They get it right every now and then.  AJ is a fearmonger.  But you discount PP as being a crackpot place.  Some of the time - like with the global financial crisis - they warned of it for a year whlie CNBC was talking about how great things were.

For financial predictions, you probably still consider PP a crackpot source and CNBC to be a 'credible source'.

[240 is Back]

Who believes in Bigfoot?  Luke? 

yes.  I believe he has traveled to other countries in search of him.

Now you have cited a bigfoot enthusiast as your 'credible source' of spacewalk info.  Do you see how silly that sounds?

Of course his views on bigfoot have no bearing on his views on the spacewalk.  but you like to group together all the people who think bush had warning of 911 and didn't act, along with those who think aliens used holograms.  bah your hypocrisy shows.