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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #150 on: April 20, 2009, 12:15:39 PM »
yes.  I believe he has traveled to other countries in search of him.

Now you have cited a bigfoot enthusiast as your 'credible source' of spacewalk info.  Do you see how silly that sounds?

Of course his views on bigfoot have no bearing on his views on the spacewalk.  but you like to group together all the people who think bush had warning of 911 and didn't act, along with those who think aliens used holograms.  bah your hypocrisy shows.

I had no idea Luke believed in BIgfoot.  Can you show me where he says that?

Did the source i posted believe in bigfoot too?   :o

Oh so you think it was aliens in those helicopters now?

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #151 on: April 20, 2009, 12:17:52 PM »
Gee i donno all these people say they travel the speed of light:

http://www.qrg.northwestern.edu/projects/vss/docs/Communications/2-why-does-it-take-so-long.html

http://www.tpub.com/neets/book10/40a.htm

http://www.colorado.edu/physics/2000/waves_particles/lightspeed-1.html

http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_sp_en.html


http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090329133240AAkPAJ2

http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpages/RefArticle.aspx?refid=761555000

This conspiracy is HUGE!  All these people and organizations must be in on it too.  

And this was only the first page on the google search!






First off most of these are NON CREDIBLE SOURCES...yahoo answers...sheesh

Secondly...none of these "sources" answers the question I asked. Read my question again... how can electromagnetic energy maintain speed in space which is littered with all manner of interference? and even where the is no interference (impossible) how is the energy source NOT exhausted in its travels?
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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #152 on: April 20, 2009, 12:18:14 PM »
I had no idea Luke believed in BIgfoot.  Can you show me where he says that?

Did the source i posted believe in bigfoot too?   :o

Oh so you think it was aliens in those helicopters now?

If Luke believes in bigfoot and has spent a lot of his resources searching...

Would that in any way affect your opinion of his chinese spacewalk analysis?

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #153 on: April 20, 2009, 12:20:27 PM »
see, you're doing it again.

PP spent the last 18 months with Schiff and Ron Paul talking about the upcoming financial meltdown.

They get it right every now and then.  AJ is a fearmonger.  But you discount PP as being a crackpot place.  Some of the time - like with the global financial crisis - they warned of it for a year whlie CNBC was talking about how great things were.

For financial predictions, you probably still consider PP a crackpot source and CNBC to be a 'credible source'.


Even a broken clock is right twice a day.  PP is still a crack pot source.  Tell us all 240, is that where you got the hologram theory from?

Never the less, they were not the only one predicting it.

Actually, CNBC, CNN, ABC all the major news networks are businesses more than they are reporters of the news.  IMO

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #154 on: April 20, 2009, 12:23:17 PM »
Actually, CNBC, CNN, ABC all the major news networks are businesses more than they are reporters of the news.  IMO

So are the major news networks "credible sources", or aren't they?

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #155 on: April 20, 2009, 12:23:46 PM »
First off most of these are NON CREDIBLE SOURCES...yahoo answers...sheesh

Secondly...none of these "sources" answers the question I asked. Read my question again... how can electromagnetic energy maintain speed in space which is littered with all manner of interference? and even where the is no interference (impossible) how is the energy source NOT exhausted in its travels?

Most I listed are.  I could list more.  But why?  To CT'er everyone's in on the scam. right?

They don't need to answer your question anyway.  Radio waves travel at the speed of light.  Do you have anything to counter the scientific community other than your blabber?

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #156 on: April 20, 2009, 12:25:52 PM »
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.  PP is still a crack pot source.  Tell us all 240, is that where you got the hologram theory from?

Never the less, they were not the only one predicting it.

Actually, CNBC, CNN, ABC all the major news networks are businesses more than they are reporters of the news.  IMO

Go listen to Schiffs youtube channel.  The videos are all there time stamped.

As far as the moon landing, I think too many people would have cashed in by now for it to have been faked.

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #157 on: April 20, 2009, 12:26:42 PM »
So are the major news networks "credible sources", or aren't they?

Depends on what it is.  Do they give a straight forward objective view of the news events of the day?  No.

Do they have the ability to report the 100% truth 100% of the time?  No.

By those definitions, no news organization on the planet is credible.

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #158 on: April 20, 2009, 12:31:05 PM »
If Luke believes in bigfoot and has spent a lot of his resources searching...

Would that in any way affect your opinion of his chinese spacewalk analysis?

Yes it would.

But the link i posted is not from Luke.

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #159 on: April 20, 2009, 12:32:31 PM »
So are the major news networks "credible sources", or aren't they?

Depends on what it is.  

i see.  We're "kinda pregnant" here.  Gotcha.

So there are no truly consistent "credible" sources out there.  it depends.


On what, exactly?  If you believe them or not?

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #160 on: April 20, 2009, 12:40:28 PM »
i see.  We're "kinda pregnant" here.  Gotcha.

So there are no truly consistent "credible" sources out there.  it depends.


On what, exactly?  If you believe them or not?

What you define as a credible news source?

What would you define as a credible news story?

An earthquake hits Italy and is reported by NBC.  Is that credible to you?

Or do you believe its a lie because NBC isn't a credible news source?

NBC reports on conditions at a prison camp in Afghanistan, but gets its story from the US military.  Is that credible to you?

Or do you believe NBC isn't a credible source because it got its information from a entity you don't consider credible such as the US military? 

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #161 on: April 20, 2009, 12:53:15 PM »
First off most of these are NON CREDIBLE SOURCES...yahoo answers...sheesh

Secondly...none of these "sources" answers the question I asked. Read my question again... how can electromagnetic energy maintain speed in space which is littered with all manner of interference? and even where the is no interference (impossible) how is the energy source NOT exhausted in its travels?

Ever heard of Newton's first law.
Any object in motion tends to stay in motion.

Space is almost an absolute vacuum.

A University physics department not be a credible source on physics.
Now I have heard it all.

As for media not covering the potential for an economic downturn. All from 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491006/UK-risk-severe-economic-downturn-warns-economist.html
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=48714
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2007/11/12/afx4326982.html

Here are some links for people actually calling a recession coming
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=email_en&refer=home&sid=akV2sasSGUY8
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/20070907/us-sub-prime-crisis-may-lead-to-economic-recession-fed.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/10/01/2047552.htm?section=world
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-howlow27nov27,1,846422,full.story
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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #162 on: April 20, 2009, 12:58:48 PM »
Ever heard of Newton's first law.
Any object in motion tends to stay in motion.

Space is almost an absolute vacuum.

Obviously you missed the part where I spoke of INTERFERENCE... nothing remains in motion when it is being continuously acted upon

Space is by no means a VACUUM, but is profusely littered with matter, energy fields, anomolies, other electromagnetic energies etc etc


A University physics department not be a credible source on physics.
Now I have heard it all.

As for media not covering the potential for an economic downturn. All from 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491006/UK-risk-severe-economic-downturn-warns-economist.html
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=48714
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2007/11/12/afx4326982.html

Here are some links for people actually calling a recession coming
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=email_en&refer=home&sid=akV2sasSGUY8
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/20070907/us-sub-prime-crisis-may-lead-to-economic-recession-fed.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/10/01/2047552.htm?section=world
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-howlow27nov27,1,846422,full.story

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #163 on: April 20, 2009, 01:00:47 PM »
Ever heard of Newton's first law.
Any object in motion tends to stay in motion.

Space is almost an absolute vacuum.

A University physics department not be a credible source on physics.
Now I have heard it all.

As for media not covering the potential for an economic downturn. All from 2007
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-491006/UK-risk-severe-economic-downturn-warns-economist.html
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=48714
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/afx/2007/11/12/afx4326982.html

Here are some links for people actually calling a recession coming
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=email_en&refer=home&sid=akV2sasSGUY8
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/articles/20070907/us-sub-prime-crisis-may-lead-to-economic-recession-fed.htm

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/10/01/2047552.htm?section=world
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-howlow27nov27,1,846422,full.story


I should remind you that you are not talking to a sane person.  You talking to a internet jockey who thinks the moon landings were faked and now thinks he's a scientist. 

Basically a mouthpiece. 

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #164 on: April 20, 2009, 01:03:48 PM »
I should remind you that you are not talking to a sane person.  You talking to a internet jockey who thinks the moon landings were faked and now thinks he's a scientist. 

Basically a mouthpiece. 

I didn't think Joker was sane either...neither is Dan-O or you Ozmo for that matter....Ooops forgot to add Berzerk to the insane list...
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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #165 on: April 20, 2009, 01:08:07 PM »
I didn't think Joker was sane either...neither is Dan-O or you Ozmo for that matter....Ooops forgot to add Berzerk to the insane list...
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What ever, clown.


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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #166 on: April 20, 2009, 01:42:00 PM »
THey won't RECOVER...lol

Now I want answers...AND I WANT THEM NOW!!!!
::) dude, your post was 99% fantasy... Listen to you demanding answers to bullshit haha

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #167 on: April 20, 2009, 01:43:59 PM »
::) dude, your post was 99% fantasy... Listen to you demanding answers to bullshit haha

Yes, the scientific community is now wrong.  And they are in on the conspiracy too.  Universities as well.


Nothing is real.  We live in a naked empire. 

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #168 on: April 20, 2009, 01:46:34 PM »
If that's the case 99% of every scientist in the world should have been sounding the alarm.  Are they all in on it too?

But here we are, internet Einstiens studying grainy low res. vids.....
It's not if that's the case, that is the case.  go look for yourself and come back and explain the diffused lighting.  All the videos are clear enough to see that.  It would have to be avatar small to not take note of the lighting diffusion.  Also it's not shocking at all that governments and other professionals don't come out to mock the Chinese.  What do they have to gain from doing so vs. what do they have to lose?  It's a risky position even if right so why would they be eager to risk it?  Just look at the lighting and tell me I'm wrong.

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #169 on: April 20, 2009, 01:48:30 PM »
Yes, the scientific community is now wrong.  And they are in on the conspiracy too.  Universities as well.


Nothing is real.  We live in a naked empire. 
On his facts, I agree with you 100%  Samson is clearly now pulling this stuff out his ass.  It's contrary to all knowledge on the subjects he's posting about.

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #170 on: April 20, 2009, 02:02:14 PM »
It's not if that's the case, that is the case.  go look for yourself and come back and explain the diffused lighting.  All the videos are clear enough to see that.  It would have to be avatar small to not take note of the lighting diffusion.  Also it's not shocking at all that governments and other professionals don't come out to mock the Chinese.  What do they have to gain from doing so vs. what do they have to lose?  It's a risky position even if right so why would they be eager to risk it?  Just look at the lighting and tell me I'm wrong.

If the chinese faked a space walk it would a huge news story as well as, based on bubbles in space, an easy no brainer for thousands of engineers and scientists to point out.  The defused lighting and bubbles and "stage lights" were explained in the link i posted as well as my assertion about us internet Einstiens making scientific conclusions on low res vid clips online.  I mean com on....   

Again:  all the scientists are in on this too?  Listen to your self.

You are starting to sound like the guy who based on youtube vids thought the helicopters were projecting holograms of planes hitting the WTC's.

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #171 on: April 20, 2009, 02:06:22 PM »
On his facts, I agree with you 100%  Samson is clearly now pulling this stuff out his ass.  It's contrary to all knowledge on the subjects he's posting about.

At some point, don't you think in the last 50 years since we propelled the first radio object in space we haven't tested radio waves in space? If this is such an issue that blows open the moon landing conspiracy the Russians would have all over this like hair on a gorilla.   

Yet, we have the scientific community saying radio waves travel at the speed of light.  But Sampson poses a question and challenges peoplel to answer it?  It's been answered.........In the real world.

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #172 on: April 20, 2009, 02:09:22 PM »
::) dude, your post was 99% fantasy... Listen to you demanding answers to bullshit haha

To the FOOLISH it is, to the wise it is something to ponder. All scientific claims are labelled THEORIES...meaning UNPROVEN.

I did not ask a tough question...as a amatter of fact it is very simple and maybe because of its simplicity people can not grasp it. Too busy holding onto fallicies that don't take much into consideration.

Consider all that I said, stop being arrogant and thinking you know it all and say is this possible... how can energy move continuously without a propulsion? and should it have a propulsion how is it that the propulsion does not run out? and when interacted upon by other energies in the univese how is it that it remains intact and continues to move without a loss in speed, change in intesity/form or change in direction?

Nothing hard...If the example were a car going down the highway and it crashed into another car...could it maintain the same speed? Of course not, energy has changed form and direction resulting in heat released, sound, damage to each car and a SLOWING DOWN. Energy field collide in the same way with other energy fields and have the same end results: heat, light, sound, loss of energy and speed. How do you think an atomic explosion works...particle impact, energy changes form, heat released, sound released, light released much of the energy DESTROYED...what's left is shadow of itself that is weaker and slower. That is all discussed in chemistry and physics and shown in cyclotrons where atoms are smashed together to release energies and their form change recorded.

Now if you have another theory please presnt it..I will add no negative comment but will see if it is plausible..
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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #173 on: April 20, 2009, 02:15:35 PM »
To the FOOLISH it is, to the wise it is something to ponder. All scientific claims are labelled THEORIES...meaning UNPROVEN.

I did not ask a tough question...as a amatter of fact it is very simple and maybe because of its simplicity people can not grasp it. Too busy holding onto fallicies that don't take much into consideration.

Consider all that I said, stop being arrogant and thinking you know it all and say is this possible... how can energy move continuously without a propulsion? and should it have a propulsion how is it that the propulsion does not run out? and when interacted upon by other energies in the univese how is it that it remains intact and continues to move without a loss in speed, change in intesity/form or change in direction?

Nothing hard...If the example were a car going down the highway and it crashed into another car...could it maintain the same speed? Of course not, energy has changed form and direction resulting in heat released, sound, damage to each car and a SLOWING DOWN. Energy field collide in the same way with other energy fields and have the same end results: heat, light, sound, loss of energy and speed. How do you think an atomic explosion works...particle impact, energy changes form, heat released, sound released, light released much of the energy DESTROYED...what's left is shadow of itself that is weaker and slower. That is all discussed in chemistry and physics and shown in cyclotrons where atoms are smashed together to release energies and their form change recorded.

Now if you have another theory please presnt it..I will add no negative comment but will see if it is plausible..

Universities and the scientific community isn't plausible so all that's left are CT nutjobs.

I'll go find one and get back to you.

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Re: Did America Land On The Moon
« Reply #174 on: April 20, 2009, 02:19:18 PM »
Universities and the scientific community isn't plausible so all that's left are CT nutjobs.

I'll go find one and get back to you.

SURPRISE SURPRISE...even universities and the scientific community will tell you that there is a WHOLE LOT THEY DO NOT KNOW...Science is constantly on the move with new discoveries and amendments made to old claims...no where is it stated that what has been discovered is DEFINITE, END OF SUBJECT, CLOSED TO DISCUSSION...as a matter of fact it is the opposite.
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