Author Topic: building the beast !!! (Read 12722 times)

muscle19 · « **Reply #50 on:** May 06, 2009, 06:07:57 AM »

see bro, i have done the same, when i turned 21, im now 24, i went out alot and spent amd money at the bars and on girls lol im married, havent been to a bar for 5 months, very rarely drink, and i sepnd my money on gear! nothing expensive abuyt that at all compared to what my friends still do lol like you said, at least we are getting something positive out of it

Stavios · « **Reply #51 on:** May 06, 2009, 06:34:55 AM »

Quote from: muscle19 on May 06, 2009, 06:07:57 AM

see bro, i have done the same, when i turned 21, im now 24, i went out alot and spent amd money at the bars and on girls lol im married, havent been to a bar for 5 months, very rarely drink, and i sepnd my money on gear! nothing expensive abuyt that at all compared to what my friends still do lol like you said, at least we are getting something positive out of it

we rock

Stavios · « **Reply #52 on:** May 06, 2009, 10:34:25 AM »

Quote from: pesty4077 on May 06, 2009, 08:56:50 AM

Meal one is not a good choice for carbs, change to oatmeal. Your meals are too far apart with too much protein and carbs. Your bedtime meal is a not good for lasting protien throughout the night, Casin is best. I personally would space out 8 meals about every two hours with 50g of protien, giving your 400g. Too many protien drinks and not enough solid foods, either.

can you explain your points ?

1- why would oatmeal be better than whole grain bagel ?
because of the GI ? I think it doesn't do much of a difference myself, I feel GI in overrated

2- Why are my meals too far apart ? Layne Norton posted a study, I will have to find the link, that it changes absolutely nothing to eat every 2 hours or every 4-6 hours. In fact I think his athletes eat every 4 hours in the off-season

3- I agree with the too much protein drinks but I just can eat any protein in the morning it makes me want to puke. I don't think it makes that much of a difference where the protein comes from

I would like to hear your reasoning

thanks for giving your opinion !

Stavios · « **Reply #53 on:** May 06, 2009, 11:11:59 AM »

thanks Tbombz, I am still open about hearing his opinion on those points !

update: weight is back down to 202.4 lbs this morning (I go as high as 214 yesterday because of the water rentention from switching from keto to high carbs)

My traps, arms and legs blew the fuck up those past 2 days !

I actually look like a bodybuilder right now instead of a beach model.

I am shooting for a 1 lb gain a week, at this pace I shouldn't gain too much fat I think !

I should look pretty big by september

muscle19 · « **Reply #54 on:** May 06, 2009, 04:01:19 PM »

thats great news stav!!!! keep up the great work!!

i agree on some of those points, i do use alot more shakes than some would recommend, again i dont think it matters where the protein comes from, i dont think ill be bigger and better with all chicken in my diet than half chcicken half shakes, i could be wrong but i havent noticed a difference, plus calories are calories!

ShreddedKing · « **Reply #55 on:** May 06, 2009, 04:53:04 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on May 05, 2009, 04:10:43 PM

Ok here is my exact diet !

8h am meal 1: 2 whole grain bagel
2 scoops protein
2 tbsp nut oil

11h30 am meal 2: SHAKE 100gr carbs, 90gr proteins

1h30 meal 3 (45 min after first workout): 8 oz chicken
1 cup rice
green veggies

4h30pm meal 4: shake 100gr carbs, 90gr proteins

6h30pm meal 5: same as meal 3

11h30 pm meal 6 (just before going to bed): 8 oz salmon
salad
2 tbsp extra virgin olive oil

I take the fats as far as the slin as I can

this is a 4060 calories diet

Diet looks good bro, id prolly agree with tdizzle and lower the protein in those shakes, 90grams is probably overkill.

Other than that i wouldnt change anything, i like the 3 hours between meals, and ur not eating a ton of food, which is important. U only need so much food to grow, after u get so much, it usually just makes ppl fat ( especially if you've had a problem with that already ).

good luck bro.

muscle19 · « **Reply #56 on:** May 06, 2009, 05:10:43 PM »

remember the 90g shakes for stav is preworkout, during, and pwo so really its taking during a 1-11/2 time spand so really looking it at that way, its not alot

theworm · « **Reply #57 on:** May 06, 2009, 05:49:49 PM »

your other post you mentioned you were on a 16 week primo cycle and it costed you about a few thousand dollars to run it...

just seeing how much you spent on roids in a year...

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #58 on:** May 06, 2009, 05:54:48 PM »

Quote from: theworm on May 06, 2009, 05:49:49 PM

your other post you mentioned you were on a 16 week primo cycle and it costed you about a few thousand dollars to run it...

just seeing how much you spent on roids in a year...

Asking the guy how much he spends on juice?? Why do you care

theworm · « **Reply #59 on:** May 06, 2009, 06:35:03 PM »

why do you care that I care? huh?

I am curious to see how much others spend on juice, what the hell is wrong with that?

Luv2Hurt · « **Reply #60 on:** May 06, 2009, 08:21:00 PM »

Quote from: theworm on May 06, 2009, 06:35:03 PM

why do you care that I care? huh?

I am curious to see how much others spend on juice, what the hell is wrong with that?

I dont know worm I would tell you to fuck off if you asked that question, its imature and rude. Where were you raised a barn? Try and have a bit of class, you come off as a bitter/jealous loser in this thread.

Stavios · « **Reply #61 on:** May 06, 2009, 09:07:39 PM »

it's ok Luv2hurt, thanks for sticking out for me !

TheWorm, I spend a lot on that cycle (primo and anavar) because I was experimenting.
yes it was expensive and no I wouldn't do cycles like that the whole year

The Master · « **Reply #62 on:** May 06, 2009, 09:50:12 PM »

Stavios pics please

abc123 · « **Reply #63 on:** May 07, 2009, 03:35:47 AM »

Yeah, Stavios, current pics would be great. I was really surprised that you are up to 15% bf. Are you sure you are that high?

I've seen you in contest shape before, but I can't remember where it was posted. So, contest pics would be great too.

Also, worm, I spend quite a bit on gear because it's as expensive as hell at my HRT clinic. Luckily, it's all covered since I'm hypogonadal. Even my GH at 4iu/day seven days per week

But, I still pay for some of it out of my pocket even though I don't have too because I don't want to send too much in AAS charges through my insurance. I try to keep my submissions reasonable so I don't raise any red flags. The last thing I want is for them to stop paying for my US Pharma GH.

Stavios · « **Reply #64 on:** May 07, 2009, 05:43:32 AM »

I am not 15% lol !
I was 18% febuary one, absolutely horrible shape.

now I am about 10% or so if I had to guess

in this pic from last year I'd guess I was about 8%bf

I just took a few pics with my cell but I don't know how to put em in the computer, I'll check it out later today

Stavios · « **Reply #65 on:** May 07, 2009, 08:18:55 AM »

Quote from: pesty4077 on May 07, 2009, 07:02:17 AM

You look very good in that picture, I seen you before. 18%? Keep you BF between 10-12% in the offseason.

yeah I fucked up !

actually, had I known I was even 14% I would have cut the food a bit !
but I didn't get my bodyfat tested at all for a few months so I got quite a shock

I didn't look that fat even at 18%, I have long limbs and everything so all that fat didn't look that bad, I just looked SUPER smooth

The ChemistV2 · « **Reply #66 on:** May 07, 2009, 08:56:32 AM »

Quote from: Stavios on May 07, 2009, 05:43:32 AM

I am not 15% lol !
I was 18% febuary one, absolutely horrible shape.

now I am about 10% or so if I had to guess

in this pic from last year I'd guess I was about 8%bf

I just took a few pics with my cell but I don't know how to put em in the computer, I'll check it out later today

Look great there..nice shoulder to waist taper. Hope you don't lose that.

muscle19 · « **Reply #67 on:** May 07, 2009, 09:01:56 AM »

ya stav, great pic!!! and for being so young!!!

i tried the slin at 10ius preworkout and it went great!! i was more pumped than i have been in awhile

and with the whole price thing, i can tell you i spend around 3k/yr and the bulk of that is gh lol i dont go to bars or party hard like i did when i turned 21 so extra money is nice and im hoping to make something out of this BB game, never know

plus i work a real job 9-5 everyday so i can afford this pleasure

Stavios · « **Reply #68 on:** May 07, 2009, 09:24:13 AM »

Quote from: The ChemistV2 on May 07, 2009, 08:56:32 AM

Look great there..nice shoulder to waist taper. Hope you don't lose that.

i won't !

in fact, it will be increased cause waist will stay the same and shoulders will blow the fuck up

I can guarantee that

Stavios · « **Reply #69 on:** May 07, 2009, 09:25:10 AM »

Quote from: muscle19 on May 07, 2009, 09:01:56 AM

ya stav, great pic!!! and for being so young!!!

i tried the slin at 10ius preworkout and it went great!! i was more pumped than i have been in awhile

and with the whole price thing, i can tell you i spend around 3k/yr and the bulk of that is gh lol i dont go to bars or party hard like i did when i turned 21 so extra money is nice and im hoping to make something out of this BB game, never know plus i work a real job 9-5 everyday so i can afford this pleasure

it's incredible isn't it ?
I was wondering if the pump came from the slin or the fact that I was Keto for so long and that my body was in shock, but the pumps I am getting are absolutely incredible

Stavios · « **Reply #70 on:** May 07, 2009, 11:31:38 AM »

Quote from: tbombz on May 07, 2009, 09:30:59 AM

thats the attitude !

im going to be 280 in decent shape by august..

stavy if i could compete against you that would be amazing. of course right now you would destroy me, but maybe like 8 months then itll be a good match. just dont go improving on me!

haha I don't destroy you at all bro, I'd post the pics I took with my cellphone but for some reason I am not able to send them on my email, I can only send them to another phone

weird

Stavios · « **Reply #71 on:** May 07, 2009, 11:53:35 AM »

I must me going hypo I can see shit anymore !!!

only red X

Stavios · « **Reply #72 on:** May 07, 2009, 12:04:34 PM »

oh brother !!

give this guy some slin he looks like an ethiopian !!

robins · « **Reply #73 on:** May 07, 2009, 12:39:25 PM »

Props man!!

You look gooood!!

io856 · « **Reply #74 on:** May 07, 2009, 12:43:51 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on May 07, 2009, 12:04:34 PM

oh brother !!

give this guy some slin he looks like an ethiopian !!

damn you are lean

You have similar structure to me... capped shoulders with smaller arms + forearms... I swear I can't get my forearms to grow LOL! no matter what hormones

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