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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #50 on: May 09, 2009, 11:39:54 AM »
why not take t3 instead.. t3 increases basal insulin levels...

So does GH, steroids too sometimes.






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« Reply #51 on: May 09, 2009, 02:39:52 PM »
Arnold is the same height as Aaron, but Arnold only weighed 236 in this picture yet he still looks way bigger than Aaron, which is why i don't believe that Aaron weighs 30 lbs heavier.



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« Reply #52 on: May 09, 2009, 05:51:59 PM »
Arnold is the same height as Aaron, but Arnold only weighed 236 in this picture yet he still looks way bigger than Aaron, which is why i don't believe that Aaron weighs 30 lbs heavier.



You need to forget weight in terms of bodybuilding mate,you can have guys weighing 200 pds but look 220-230 because of genetic structure fullness shape of there muscles..pure visual sport.

And aaron looks fukin great , id have no concerns beleiving his weight claims

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #53 on: May 09, 2009, 07:43:18 PM »
Arnold is the same height as Aaron, but Arnold only weighed 236 in this picture yet he still looks way bigger than Aaron, which is why i don't believe that Aaron weighs 30 lbs heavier.




Have you ever been to a National Level Bodybuilding contest? Let alone the Arnold or the Olympia Expo? I was just in Columbus for the Arnold and there had to be DOZENS of guys my size or larger... and many of them larger and LEANER. Hell, last year in Chicago for Jr. Nationals half the whole Super Heavy Weight class were larger and leaner than I've ever been... Here is something interesting for you... google: Noah Steere...
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« Reply #54 on: May 10, 2009, 12:19:38 PM »
Maybe none are as crazy as Milos himself. Almost died from Synthol, had thyroid storm from OD'ing thyroid meds, hooked himself up to an IV of plasma expanders after Nasser told him about is as a joke, made himself hypo numerous times while experimenting with different insulins, bought unknown, in retrospect possibly very toxic diuretics from Chad for $500 a pop. Maybe none are crazy abusers like Milos.  ;) :D

No, none of them would do anything that could be called abuse. None of them would fail a drug test for having 5 different diuretics in his system. And etc.  :D

There is distinctive difference between abusing something and having unfortunate accident...

Considering that I competed in 110 shows (72 IFBB pro + 38 Amateur) - don't you think I had "plenty of chances" to have little accidents...but had only TWO - both when someone else was "helping me" administer certain medication (yes - I chose not to say drugs - as IT IS MEDICATION after all...

Now, some people take chances in their lives - believing in themselves...having NO FEAR..going after their (sometimes numerous or multiple) ultimate goals...wherever those goals might take them...And some, IN FEAR OF FAILING, don't even EVER attempt to try anything?!!?? (and i've met so many of those - it is NOT even funny. And some even wear T-shirts "FAIL-PROOF" or "FAILURE FREE" - their parents, senior citizens, paid for it...calling their acquaintances at best (in lack of any friends) from local PAY PHONES (as they can only dream about cell phones) loudly talking about their "fail-proof for life" accomplishments, bragging about absolutely PRISTINE "fail-free" record...

FEAR-FREE people recognize their obstacles and take them as "little something" on the road - along the way...they could go around, over and/or through them...and for "fearless" few every problem does have easy and almost instant SOLUTION - if everyone simply focuses on finding the "BEST solution HOW TO" rather than finding BEST excuse...WHY THEY DIDN'T - solve the problem, only FAIL-FREE people would do - justifying forfeit of some result or competition - due to hardly noticeable wind as fresh and very light breeze...they dramatically described as once in the lifetime super cyclonic storm they Baptisted in Weather Canal News as: first name General - Typhoon  and last name Major Hurricane ...that ALMOST KILL THEM in their successful, above everything - heroic and borderline - inhuman effort to escape that "killer wind". 

 Knowing what we want and who we really are...is absolute must...and if GOALS that are set require WHATEVER DIFFICULTY= so be it...(like 23 year old Socialist-kid growing in small Village in Yugoslavia, without monetary help from his parents and WITHOUT their support to leave to US...with total of $428 in pocket, with SPIK NO ENGLEZE, except: love you, fu.k you, how do you do, nice shoes - you want to fuck? [in 7 different languages - as ultimately - in every language after clear compliment to the lady (shoes...) it is perfectly OK to ASK for whatever else...with big smile and pretending that you have no idea what you just said...which worked about 97% of the time - if you really want to know...]

So, Van Build-that-ass - you've heard about "live/die by the sword" kind of guys (like that Moron that almost killed himself 100 times -  experimenting something that he eventually "mastered it" and later brought into the IFBB and sports in general...to share his findings and teach hundreds, and those hundreds to later tech thousands around the world...yet still somehow alive and kicking) - or you know only "your kind" "live/die with the fork" type who are looking for what?
Excuses WHY NOT (none of the "forklifters" are crazy enough to try...something that could make them - exactly what they dream about the most, thus - spending LIFE by being all day on bodybuilding boards, reading magazines., training in the gym longer than some pros, and more often than NOT - taking MORE steroids that Olympia competitors ..etc...but - just like that fox that didn't really, necessarily actually even want those sour tasting - green grapes...which happened to be - out of reach...you guys don't want to be PRO BODIBUILDERS ?)

Who had better chances becoming a pro?
Me, growing up in Yugoslavia - with hardly any money - thousands of miles away from "bodybuilding center of the world" - State of California...or maybe...YOU...and others like YOU...that would certainly stop even thinking of having some super sexy figure babe - after careful consideration that "pubic hair" indeed could be the obstacle you'll never be able to overcome?!
(Just ask Nasser "the Gigolo" ;D about...and don't worry "gentleman never tells" is not exactly his motto...And easy to realize reasons to be first to tell the story, as well as his - choices of topics :
(1): need to express "duration" of his attempt - to talk about what was suppose to be unforgettable sexual experience to "never got a second chance with any women I've attempted to have sex with" BEFORE other side of the story could be heard. 
(2): stupidity of even mentioning "naming" with pride !? of Nasser's most valuable asset - (he uses to "think" with - much more often than his head ) - as cutie could not be used for anything else - not realizing, or thinking for a second, to ask anyone what could possibly be good or great about hearing "little cutie"

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #55 on: May 10, 2009, 12:41:57 PM »
¥€@ €¤@ct£¥ M@n

 ;D

I could not agree more - I can't understand it myself...I guess posting something "philosophical" after sleepless night - is not best idea after all...


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« Reply #56 on: May 10, 2009, 12:43:32 PM »
interesting thread
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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #57 on: May 10, 2009, 12:46:41 PM »
its lantis. 24 hour inisulin. this guy maxtiter says that humalog wont do shit and that lantis is the only one to provide results. he also doesnt think that its necessary to avoid fat intake while slin is active.

to put it shortly the guy is dumb

He also doesn't think is necessary to take at least one bullet out before playing Russian Roulette?

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #58 on: May 10, 2009, 12:48:07 PM »
He also doesn't think is necessary to take at least one bullet out before playing Russian Roulette?
What's up with you putting on a seminar June 6th?

Is it still on?
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« Reply #59 on: May 10, 2009, 12:49:10 PM »
There is distinctive difference between abusing something and having unfortunate accident...

Considering that I competed in 110 shows (72 IFBB pro + 38 Amateur) - don't you think I had "plenty of chances" to have little accidents...but had only TWO - both when someone else was "helping me" administer certain medication (yes - I chose not to say drugs - as IT IS MEDICATION after all...

Now, some people take chances in their lives - believing in themselves...having NO FEAR..going after their (sometimes numerous or multiple) ultimate goals...wherever those goals might take them...And some, IN FEAR OF FAILING, don't even EVER attempt to try anything?!!?? (and i've met so many of those - it is NOT even funny. And some even wear T-shirts "FAIL-PROOF" or "FAILURE FREE" - their parents, senior citizens, paid for it...calling their acquaintances at best (in lack of any friends) from local PAY PHONES (as they can only dream about cell phones) loudly talking about their "fail-proof for life" accomplishments, bragging about absolutely PRISTINE "fail-free" record...

FEAR-FREE people recognize their obstacles and take them as "little something" on the road - along the way...they could go around, over and/or through them...and for "fearless" few every problem does have easy and almost instant SOLUTION - if everyone simply focuses on finding the "BEST solution HOW TO" rather than finding BEST excuse...WHY THEY DIDN'T - solve the problem, only FAIL-FREE people would do - justifying forfeit of some result or competition - due to hardly noticeable wind as fresh and very light breeze...they dramatically described as once in the lifetime super cyclonic storm they Baptisted in Weather Canal News as: first name General - Typhoon  and last name Major Hurricane ...that ALMOST KILL THEM in their successful, above everything - heroic and borderline - inhuman effort to escape that "killer wind". 

 Knowing what we want and who we really are...is absolute must...and if GOALS that are set require WHATEVER DIFFICULTY= so be it...(like 23 year old Socialist-kid growing in small Village in Yugoslavia, without monetary help from his parents and WITHOUT their support to leave to US...with total of $428 in pocket, with SPIK NO ENGLEZE, except: love you, fu.k you, how do you do, nice shoes - you want to fuck? [in 7 different languages - as ultimately - in every language after clear compliment to the lady (shoes...) it is perfectly OK to ASK for whatever else...with big smile and pretending that you have no idea what you just said...which worked about 97% of the time - if you really want to know...]

So, Van Build-that-ass - you've heard about "live/die by the sword" kind of guys (like that Moron that almost killed himself 100 times -  experimenting something that he eventually "mastered it" and later brought into the IFBB and sports in general...to share his findings and teach hundreds, and those hundreds to later tech thousands around the world...yet still somehow alive and kicking) - or you know only "your kind" "live/die with the fork" type who are looking for what?
Excuses WHY NOT (none of the "forklifters" are crazy enough to try...something that could make them - exactly what they dream about the most, thus - spending LIFE by being all day on bodybuilding boards, reading magazines...etc...but just like that fox that didn't really, necessarily - want those green grapes...which happened to be - out of reach...you guys don't want to be PRO BODIBUILDERS ?

Who had better chances becoming a pro?
Me, growing up in Yugoslavia - with hardly any money - thousands of miles away from "bodybuilding center of the world" - State of California...or maybe...YOU...and others like YOU...that would certainly stop even thinking of having some super sexy figure babe - after careful consideration that "pubic hair" indeed could be the obstacle you'll never be able to overcome?!
(Just ask Nasser "the Gigolo" ;D about...and don't worry "gentleman never tells" is not exactly his motto...And easy to realize reasons to be first to tell the story, as well as his - choices of topics :
(1): need to express "duration" of his attempt - to talk about what was suppose to be unforgettable sexual experience to "never got a second chance with any women I've attempted to have sex with" BEFORE other side of the story could be heard. 
(2): stupidity of even mentioning "naming" with pride !? of Nasser's most valuable asset - (he uses to "think" with - much more often than his head ) - as cutie could not be used for anything else - not realizing, or thinking for a second, to ask anyone what could possibly be good or great about hearing "little cutie"

Wow. This rant is all over the place but I think I know what you're getting at.  :o :D

I'm all for doing whatever is necessary to reach your goals, it's a fucking romantic idea. I'm not one of those guys who criticizes bodybuilders for taking certain risks, I'm not on any thread saying someone is a moron because he wants to be a bodybuilder instead of putting all his time into building his finances and building a stable safe future. If you deem bodybuilding worthwhile all the power to you. All I'm saying is that pro bodybuilders take chances with their health and abuse drugs many times. But don't come here saying there's no abuse at the top when you admit to almost killing yourself 100 times with drugs. You have recommended drugs to bodybuilders for which there is no human data, such as IGF-1 and others.

Remember this e-mail to Patrick Arnold?

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In a February 2000 e-mail exchange with Arnold, Sarcev expressed interest in designer supplements and diuretics for an imminent competition.

"Let me know where to send money, gold or kidneys," Sarcev replied after Arnold quoted him a price of 100 dollars a gram for "miracle stuff" called Norbolethone.

"I can over night it." Sarcev offered himself as "a good guinea pig" because he had "tried everything" and added he worked "with many other monkeys (that would like to become gorillas)."

No drug abuse? Really?

I have no moral problem with drug experimentation, it's how you dress it up as something else.







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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2009, 12:49:31 PM »
He was talking up two different long acting insulins, levemir and lantus. Hyping the levemir more than the lantus.

Yeah I mentioned the same before, I haven't been impressed by his info. Though for growth simply increasing total insulin levels may not be a stupid idea IMO (instead of the window of opportunity thing).

Exogenous INSULIN is UNPREDICTABLE - and could not be controlled (at least precisely, timely and adequately) IF we don't know the properties...onset, peaks and duration...especially IF duration is 24 hours rather than 4 (as it is the case with HUMALOG)

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« Reply #61 on: May 10, 2009, 12:51:01 PM »
He also doesn't think is necessary to take at least one bullet out before playing Russian Roulette?

I haven't looked at the data but saw where he claimed Levemir will not affect blood glucose or endogenous insulin release. He thinks it's safe to use at quite high dosages without chance of severe hypoglycemic reactions.

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« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2009, 01:07:22 PM »
Wow. This rant is all over the place but I think I know what you're getting at.  :o :D

I'm all for doing whatever is necessary to reach your goals, it's a fucking romantic idea. I'm not one of those guys who criticizes bodybuilders for taking certain risks, I'm not on any thread saying someone is a moron because he wants to be a bodybuilder instead of putting all his time into building his finances and building a stable safe future. If you deem bodybuilding worthwhile all the power to you. All I'm saying is that pro bodybuilders take chances with their health and abuse drugs many times. But don't come here saying there's no abuse at the top when you admit to almost killing yourself 100 times with drugs. You have recommended drugs to bodybuilders for which there is no human data, such as IGF-1 and others.

Remember this e-mail to Patrick Arnold?

No drug abuse? Really?

I have no moral problem with drug experimentation, it's how you dress it up as something else.








I have more important things to do today...so can't entertain the idea to please "that ass" just because it's that time of the month - and estrogen is just poring for some reason...

But:

I am saying that PRO bodybuilders are in general CONSIDERABLY more educated and careful with their "doping"...and while amounts taken would NOT be considered reasonable in medical community - hardly ANYONE truly abuses their bodies using GH15 - imaginary ridiculous amounts - NO Olympia competitor have EVER used...

As you live here on board (who said I said he said you have no life?) it seems to me you would possibly give some rats ass or ass in general TO BE PRO or at least to LOOK LIKE ONE...but you would really want to f.ck yet don't really want to stick in (or like some - hmmm El Somebody - can't last enough to ...) - yet you'll probably also feel the need to prove your manhood by mentioning your disastrous shortcoming - as the best xyz in the history of the human kind...trying to "touch" every subject of your embarrassment - in exactly the opposite way...just in case truth comes out before you have a chance to use your wildest imagination..)

I never admitted I almost killed myself 100 times...I said I had two little accidents out of 100's of times I used anything of that nature..

And - I never recommended IGF to anyone...So please - find it where I supposedly did...

OK, got to go...

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2009, 01:17:43 PM »
I haven't looked at the data but saw where he claimed Levemir will not affect blood glucose or endogenous insulin release. He thinks it's safe to use at quite high dosages without chance of severe hypoglycemic reactions.

AND THIS IS PERFECT EXAMPLE OF "MORON IN ACTION" Bild that ass...

What do you know about INSULIN and injecting HIGH DOSAGE OF LONG ACTING exogenous insulin - that is SAFE?!?!? ::)

It is equivalent to 'bulletproof' armor that supposedly one can take off - as "levemir" bullets just wouldn't have a chance of severe damage to the body? ::)

STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES...OR WHAT STUPID CLAIMS HERE ON GETBIG and acts "oh so innocent"

You should be in jail together with that Moron who claims that ANY long acting insulin taken exogenous way WOULD NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO CREATE HYPOGLYCEMIA...in subject that is using...

I would like to see you and that guy...take it in front of me - without any fear - and see what happens...

But, I have a feeling that nobody said that yet - your built ass is trying to be smartass - and that is DANGEROUS SMARTASS!

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« Reply #64 on: May 10, 2009, 01:19:31 PM »
I have more important things to do today...so can't entertain the idea to please "that ass" just because it's that time of the month - and estrogen is just poring for some reason...

But:

I am saying that PRO bodybuilders are in general CONSIDERABLY more educated and careful with their "doping"...and while amounts taken would NOT be considered reasonable in medical community - hardly ANYONE truly abuses their bodies using GH15 - imaginary ridiculous amounts - NO Olympia competitor have EVER used...

As you live here on board (who said I said he said you have no life?) it seems to me you would possibly give some rats ass or ass in general TO BE PRO or at least to LOOK LIKE ONE...but you would really want to f.ck yet don't really want to stick in (or like some - hmmm El Somebody - can't last enough to ...) - yet you'll probably also feel the need to prove your manhood by mentioning your disastrous shortcoming - as the best xyz in the history of the human kind...trying to "touch" every subject of your embarrassment - in exactly the opposite way...just in case truth comes out before you have a chance to use your wildest imagination..)

I never admitted I almost killed myself 100 times...I said I had two little accidents out of 100's of times I used anything of that nature..

And - I never recommended IGF to anyone...So please - find it where I supposedly did...

OK, got to go...

I don't understand most of your post but as far as the IGF-1 here's what Harley Breite says is an e-mail from you to Craig Richardson:

Milos then advised Craig to increase his off-season “supplement” program to 16 weeks as well as including IGF twice a day.
   Craig was very appreciative for all of Milos’ advice and Milos never charged him a fee.  Craig took Milos’ advice re the Humalog but shortly thereafter gave it up.  Craig had concerns that this was too much for his body and that it could have serious long-term effects.  Craig did not increase his “supplement” program to 16 weeks due to similar concerns.
   

"IGF Long R3- either 50 mcg once a day or twice a day (if you have enough).  First shot should be at least two hours after GH...and if you can do two shots a day- second shot should be one hour BEFORE training (in the afternoon) than AFTER training you do HUMALOG."

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« Reply #65 on: May 10, 2009, 01:22:02 PM »
AND THIS IS PERFECT EXAMPLE OF "MORON IN ACTION" Bild that ass...

What do you know about INSULIN and injecting HIGH DOSAGE OF LONG ACTING exogenous insulin - that is SAFE?!?!? ::)

It is equivalent to 'bulletproof' armor that supposedly one can take off - as "levemir" bullets just wouldn't have a chance of severe damage to the body? ::)

STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES...OR WHAT STUPID CLAIMS HERE ON GETBIG and acts "oh so innocent"

You should be in jail together with that Moron who claims that ANY long acting insulin taken exogenous way WOULD NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO CREATE HYPOGLYCEMIA...in subject that is using...

I would like to see you and that guy...take it in front of me - without any fear - and see what happens...

But, I have a feeling that nobody said that yet - your built ass is trying to be smartass - and that is DANGEROUS SMARTASS!

I did NOT say it was a good idea, learn to read! I said this is what that rxmuscle mod claimed. I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO HIS CLAIM TO VERIFY IT - I said this clearly. And I also said I haven't been impressed with his info in general.

The mods name is maxititer and this is what I thought of him and still do:

I have seen a lot of professed scientists post on PED topics on bb forums that make me (and I'm no scientist) shake my head. An example is "Gavin Kane". A guy who posts on some forums under the name "maxititer" is another.

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« Reply #66 on: May 10, 2009, 01:29:16 PM »
I don't understand most of your post but as far as the IGF-1 here's what Harley Breite says is an e-mail from you to Craig Richardson:


And you seem to have everyone's cycles and connections like no other?
Interesting...yet - you are...not interested to compete...?
Not using anything?

What?

Now - as you DID to my shocking surprise have SOMETHING where I supposedly gave my advice about IGF...I did suggest to few guys how would I recommend them to take it IF they insist - they want to use it...but i told everyone that I am not proponent of IGF - especially as it is potentially carcinogenic and right there alone exceeds any acceptable level of risks ...

You seem to know Patric - he could possibly confirm what I told him when he asked me about it...

But, just to make one thing clear - I am to this day getting "Milos cycles" programs and diets...etc - that are circulating around - that have nothing I ever said....in it...

So, be careful and YES - post it here and alarm me (anyone) so I cold answer and tell the truth...rather than let some guys use "my recomendations" I would not suggest to my worst enemy...

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #67 on: May 10, 2009, 01:35:17 PM »
I did NOT say it was a good idea, learn to read! I said this is what that rxmuscle mod claimed. I HAVE NOT LOOKED INTO HIS CLAIM TO VERIFY IT - I said this clearly. And I also said I haven't been impressed with his info in general.

The mods name is maxititer and this is what I thought of him and still do:




YOU SHOULD SAY IT IS VERY BAD IDEA THE SAME SECOND YOU SAW IDIOTIC CLAIM THAT HIGH DOSAGE OF EXOGENOUS LONG ACTING INSULIN IS SAFE AND WILL NOT CAUSE HYPERGLUCEMIA...

RIGHT THERE YOU ARE ACCEPTING THE TITLE OF A MORON...Dangerous moron who pretends he knows something when in really knows very minimal about subject that is 100 times more dangerous than ANY ABUSE of steroids you are so concerned about.

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« Reply #68 on: May 10, 2009, 01:39:42 PM »
And you seem to have everyone's cycles and connections like no other?
Interesting...yet - you are...not interested to compete...?
Not using anything?

What?

Now - as you DID to my shocking surprise have SOMETHING where I supposedly gave my advice about IGF...I did suggest to few guys how would I recommend them to take it IF they insist - they want to use it...but i told everyone that I am not proponent of IGF - especially as it is potentially carcinogenic and right there alone exceeds any acceptable level of risks ...

You seem to know Patric - he could possibly confirm what I told him when he asked me about it...

But, just to make one thing clear - I am to this day getting "Milos cycles" programs and diets...etc - that are circulating around - that have nothing I ever said....in it...

So, be careful and YES - post it here and alarm me (anyone) so I cold answer and tell the truth...rather than let some guys use "my recomendations" I would not suggest to my worst enemy...

It was posted on this board by Craig's training partner. I saw it and remembered it, simple as. It was on public display here. Same with the Patrick Arnold e-mail, it was in the news years back in connection to the BALCO case. I don't know Patrick.

I do remember you being against IGF-1 too. I have excellent memory.:D
Same thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=272552.msg3833307#msg3833307

OK, thanks. I just remember Milos saying he would never use it due to cancer risk.

So thanks for clarifying.  :)

And I would love to compete but I don't have what it takes to look even semi-respectable. I'm just a fan at this point.  :)


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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #69 on: May 10, 2009, 01:49:47 PM »
This may be what Milos recommends or thinks is OK to recommend publicly but he knows damn well most of his guys don't do it. Same with the GH doses of 2-6iu or none at all. Milos even claimed this is in line with what Ronnie and Jay do/did.

None in the O top 10 were doing more??

Is that what Milos said on the show?

Do you believe this Coach?

TOP GUYS ARE TAKING 750mg tops and several Olympia competitors - top 10 finishers never went over 500mg/week/ while truth is some go with 1000 mg and I heard ONE so far - taking 1500mg - but he doesn't take much else...

I would again ask you guys WHAT WOLD BE A PURPOSE FOR ME TO LIE?

I will organize that seminar if CHAOS wants on June 6th...no problem...and i could show you (maybe even give to copy? ;)) cycles of at least 10 top olympia competitors...and their diet...contest prep secrets...etc...etc

It is interesting to me there is "resistance" and so many of you guys have "something" against me or my ways of doing things - and I absolutely have no problem with that.
I like to consider everyone's opinion and I would admit - few times actually I learned some things even from very beginners - who just had views in subject - that I never even considered...

So, I will tell you right away - I am as far away from being a genius as Bob is from his nose ( ;D...and...if we consider that nose is attached - I am making myself a genius with this statement - which is quite fair...but I meant to say - as far away from Bob's tip of the nose - which is by now miles long and away from his face...due to constant "not so truthful facts that are not really facts anyway...and on top of that he is not telling the truth even when he is telling the truth - somehow...anyway...

have a nice day

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #70 on: May 10, 2009, 01:53:05 PM »


YOU SHOULD SAY IT IS VERY BAD IDEA THE SAME SECOND YOU SAW IDIOTIC CLAIM THAT HIGH DOSAGE OF EXOGENOUS LONG ACTING INSULIN IS SAFE AND WILL NOT CAUSE HYPERGLUCEMIA...

RIGHT THERE YOU ARE ACCEPTING THE TITLE OF A MORON...Dangerous moron who pretends he knows something when in really knows very minimal about subject that is 100 times more dangerous than ANY ABUSE of steroids you are so concerned about.

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Why is it my responsibility what someone claims? Why didn't you call Aaron and Carl morons when you were on their show? They're the ones who brought it up. Next time you talk to Palumbo please ask him to remove the guy from mod position at his board, the guy apparently a danger to the community (many are doing levemir now due to him).




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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #71 on: May 10, 2009, 02:11:06 PM »
It was posted on this board by Craig's training partner. I saw it and remembered it, simple as. It was on public display here. Same with the Patrick Arnold e-mail, it was in the news years back in connection to the BALCO case. I don't know Patrick.

I do remember you being against IGF-1 too. I have excellent memory.:D
Same thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=272552.msg3833307#msg3833307

So thanks for clarifying.  :)

And I would love to compete but I don't have what it takes to look even semi-respectable. I'm just a fan at this point.  :)



Van...big ass - or whatever your name is - I had little problem before with King of all camels - and than we became great friends - to the point he even tries to kiss me every time he sees me.
I told him that Barb is getting jealous (and so was Bob...the puppet) and besides - kissing in public is "kind of" gay - and as I absolutely claim that while my boyfriend might be a "flaming" gay - I certainly am NOT...unless Nasser would change his mind...which actually happens hourly...but - where was I?

Yes, suppose o be working and have every excuse in a book to spend another minute (or 300) here on board rather than do taxes...article...or clean my room...(so much for "solution" fearless talk...)

Anyway...I also had Gareth initially against me....and than we became training partners (GARETH - I AM STARTING MONDAY - want to join? Wan'a joint?)

So vanderful Ass (this gay talk has no influence on me whatso-ever... Hmm, what are you wearing...bobby...Bobby the puppet...i know you cant miss any of my posts if your life depends on it...so - give me a jingle....You know - your usual "jing-o-balls" (is - spelling?)..

yes Ass Van man - don't take my incoherent writing as a probable sign of drug abuse - it is not...I am just WASTING TIME of everyone reading so they would have a reason to call me names - after all...

And finally - what should be the only sentence here - I wold offer to HELP YOU FAR EXCEED ANY OF YOUR EXPECTATIONS by directing you and possibly even training with you IF you come to my gym...and YES - with very best intentions and I could care less for my fee either...Just having a pleasure of APPLYING my theories on someone who is skeptical and non-believer - and completely changing his opinion on NUMEROUS SUBJECTS he believes he knows 100% for sure to be the very best out there...(conventional theories) and opening your eyes to something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT and MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE, SAFER, BETTER, SEXIER...(no you used "romantic"...)...oh - happy mothers day.


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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #72 on: May 10, 2009, 02:21:35 PM »
Why is it my responsibility what someone claims? Why didn't you call Aaron and Carl morons when you were on their show? They're the ones who brought it up. Next time you talk to Palumbo please ask him to remove the guy from mod position at his board, the guy apparently a danger to the community (many are doing levemir now due to him).





I think I did call someone Moron at the show...but it was too long ago (what - last week?) and show was to long...so whoever I missed calling a Moron and deserves to be called - please forgive me and make sure you remind me to do it next time...

And I respect Dave too much to say publicly that whoever (on his board) makes claims in line of:
high dosage of exogenous long acting insulin would be perfectly safe and would NOT cause hypoglycemic episodes

SHOULD BE IMMEDIATELY ARRESTED and held responsible for premeditated murder - in line of that collective suicide - for example...

So, thank God there are boards like this one where I...could disrespect Dave to publicly say ABOVE MENTIONED and hope he would not be informed in next 2 minutes - so i could shut my computer and hide in a whole and hope he never finds me - or he'll take all my carbs from me and put me on sub 1000 calorie diet - he should also be arrested for...OOOps...I better go now...

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #73 on: May 10, 2009, 02:48:23 PM »
Hmm, funny that even with all this experimentation and knowledge you still failed to surpass any of the old bodybuilders like Arnold, Franco Columbu etc.
Maybe you should have gone back to the basics lol.  ;D

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Re: Milos Sarcev's Ulitmate Radio Seminar this week on OFF TOPIC
« Reply #74 on: May 10, 2009, 06:50:08 PM »
Milos, i think the problem that most of these guys have is that they can take 1,000 mg plus of test, along with god knows what other aas and they still look like shit, so its hard for them to believe that someone they admire ( top 10 mr olympia  competitor ) can take less drugs than they do but look a million times better.

I dont know where this idea that more drugs equal a better physique came from, because at some point there is dimishing returns, but i think its just a way for these guys to justify there pathetic gains.

just my 2 shredded cents.