Author Topic: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007  (Read 885035 times)

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4150 on: June 11, 2006, 05:33:55 AM »



240 you lying piece of pu-tang.  Cheri is right, you did ask how many people were in his class.  Low-ball move.  Mike looked good and I was right all along about his legs.  All it needed was some pro-tan and those cuts would come roaring out.



Congrats Mike, you earned it

Good god, am I missing something here? Why are people complaining about 240 asking how many were in the class? It is an entirely normal question, and relevant. If someone places 9th, that may sound sucky, but if there were 35 people in the class than that is actually very good.

There is nothing wrong with the question, although I must confess it is one I have dreaded myself ;D

Competing within itself is very difficult so hence an accomplishment on it's own, a high placing is only icing on the cake. Congrats on a great transformation Mike...both physical and mental.

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4151 on: June 11, 2006, 05:41:22 AM »
Mike's transformation has been tremendous! He looks like an entirely different person! Great work Mike, I bet you get hungrier and go for more competitions!

As for Cheri, she looks outstanding for her age! She looks late twenties early thirties! If she truly is 48 that is unbelievable! Great work Cheri!

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4152 on: June 11, 2006, 05:50:47 AM »
Everyone has that option, of course!

For someone who just wants one site, it's often easier to just pay $300 for everything (completely customized until they're 100% happy) and let them spend their time growing their product/service.  My experience and education definitely come in handy too.

For someone that wants to do this for a living... it's HARD.  I give my customers 100% satisfaction guarantees.  Some sites take 1-3 weeks of 4-6 hours a day.  I have absolutely no life lol... that's why most guys charge way more, so they can enjoy life.  I KNOW that I undercharge, but I'd prefer to lose a little margin than to have wasted capacity.  I haven't had a day in 2 months that I haven't been working at least 6 hours lol... most days 12 or 14.

No disrespect 240...and I will be the first to admit that I know nothing about building a website...but sitting in front of your laptop in the air conditioning  isn't what I would call work. ;)..lol..

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4153 on: June 11, 2006, 05:51:30 AM »
He could've competed against the worst field in the history, or the best field.

It doesn't change the way he looked.

The guy just did his first diet, coming down from a large and fairly overweight 270-280.

Arvilla slayed the size dragon. The fear of getting small when getting cut.

Interesting to see what happens now.

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4154 on: June 11, 2006, 05:52:17 AM »
$10 says that Mike skips the morning cardio
$10 says that he won't have grilled chicken either
hell another $10 says he won't go near a gym today

man, "normal" food is going to taste extra special to him today

congrats big guy, you have worked hard.  

Now take at least 1 days and enjoy yourself.  Cheri make his morning "extra special"  ;)
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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4155 on: June 11, 2006, 05:55:19 AM »
He could've competed against the worst field in the history, or the best field.

It doesn't change the way he looked.

The guy just did his first diet, coming down from a large and fairly overweight 270-280.

Arvilla slayed the size dragon. The fear of getting small when getting cut.

Interesting to see what happens now.

YIP
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yeah, it will be.  According to Cheri Mike competed at 198lbs.  In the offseason he should go no bigger than 225-235.  At the weigh he is going to look awesome.
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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4156 on: June 11, 2006, 06:11:09 AM »
Damn Mike you look great, great job! He humped that pre-contest into submission. He must feel phenominal. :)
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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4157 on: June 11, 2006, 06:22:12 AM »
Congrats, Mike! Great condition.

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4158 on: June 11, 2006, 06:30:07 AM »
You are a liar 240, you didn't contratulate Mike or ask for pictures, you simply said "How many people were in the Open heavyweight class?" and that was it.   Anyone care to see what a liar 240 is, just go here: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=77367.100

Asking how many competed in the Mike's class seems like a backhanded stab to me. Then he tries to play innocent with it.
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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4159 on: June 11, 2006, 06:32:36 AM »
I agree.  But I don't think I have been cruel at all.  Cheri and I have battled, but me and Mike are cool and I very rarely mess with him- I only worried about the health side- about the strain of a first Bbing show at 40+ and losing 1/4 of one's body mass in 3-4 months is huge.  Billy Carp dying was a horrible thing, and I would hate to see that happen again.



Now you are worried about Mike dying? He is a healthy man of 40 years old. He isn't some mega steroid taking, diuretic using junkie.
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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4160 on: June 11, 2006, 06:35:50 AM »
These front page sites are amazing!



It'll only cost 200 dollars to start my own website business.  Ic an have a website and make other websites, and have legal access to microsoft's media databank, and 24hr. customer service dept.!!!!!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!!!  All for only 200 dollars.

Stop thread crapping you dweeb. This thread is about Arvilla. Not web sites and associated software.
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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4161 on: June 11, 2006, 06:36:44 AM »
Congrats Mike, you looked very good.

That transformation is UNREAL......you look like a ripped 30 yr old.

Amazing.

240, why can't you just be happy for the guy, he had an amazing turnaround, competed (which most of the "ifbb pros" around here claim no one can do, and is one of the nicest guys on the board....

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4162 on: June 11, 2006, 06:37:38 AM »
If bodybuilding doesn't work out, Arvilla can always get a job playing a California Raisin.

Shut up you fat fuck. How many times have you been in the condition Mike was in?
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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4163 on: June 11, 2006, 06:40:42 AM »

It goes both together, dippy.  240 did ask how many people where in his class before the congrats.  Besides most of the congrats is him advertising his web design business.  WTF is up with that, bro???


He only congrat him to try to cover up his actual intentions. 

Vince Mike came in shredded his first show. You looked like you didn't even diet or workout. Shows you what hard work and perserverance will do. Learn from him.
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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4164 on: June 11, 2006, 06:43:22 AM »
Good god, am I missing something here? Why are people complaining about 240 asking how many were in the class? It is an entirely normal question, and relevant. If someone places 9th, that may sound sucky, but if there were 35 people in the class than that is actually very good.


Yes but 240 already knew there were only a few competitors. He wanted Cheri to come out and say it to try and undermine Mike's accomplishment using Cheri to do his dirty work.
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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4165 on: June 11, 2006, 07:07:19 AM »
LOL Awesome debate.... 240 vs. Frontpage!

$200 plus tax...212.

My sites cost $88 bucks more, and I eat the tax.  All the client has to do is tell me what they want, and it gets built.  They get 2-3 emails a day during the design process.  They tell me what they like, what they don't, and I grow it. Pic galleries, flash, video clips, ecomm systems, and of course, the business acumen and skill of a guy who has taught web des since 2001 and been doing it all day every day since Nov/Dec. 

If the tens of hours you spend building the site on your own is worth it, that is awesome.  But when I need a new shirt, I don't learn to sew.  I buy it, and save myself the 30 hours of sewing class so that I can do what is more profitable for me.  you only get so many hours per week, and if you can outsource a time-intensive task and do what makes you money, it makes sense.

(I often sell my websites to local firms looking to hire a part-timer.  I let them know that they're hiring a kid who needs a desk, PC, software, who could slip and fall and sue, who brings  his baggage to work.  They almost always prefer to outsource it- prepay $300 and get peace of mind. )


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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4166 on: June 11, 2006, 07:15:20 AM »
Congrats Mike, you earned it!


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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4167 on: June 11, 2006, 07:19:06 AM »
Very good job!

Take advantage of the post contest rebound.

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4168 on: June 11, 2006, 07:21:39 AM »

I already said you won't finish last... you got that black guy beat (on everything but quads).  ::)

see this thread i made about that sore loser goatboy..
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=76797.0

You look awesome mike..Great Transformation

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4169 on: June 11, 2006, 07:29:49 AM »
she looked increadible and was robbed a couple times!!!!!!! i was there.








Thanks Delta! It's ok, we still quaified for the Nationals though.So we'll hit the Southern States in July & possibly Debbie Kruck's show in August.Once we get past all the polictical B.S. we'll be just fine.It was nice meeting you,by the way.

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4170 on: June 11, 2006, 07:38:00 AM »

Thanks Delta! It's ok, we still qualified for the Nationals though.So we'll hit the Southern States in July & possibly Debbie Kruck's show in August.Once we get past all the polictical B.S. we'll be just fine.
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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4171 on: June 11, 2006, 07:47:02 AM »
LOL Awesome debate.... 240 vs. Frontpage!

$200 plus tax...212.

My sites cost $88 bucks more, and I eat the tax.  All the client has to do is tell me what they want, and it gets built.  They get 2-3 emails a day during the design process.  They tell me what they like, what they don't, and I grow it. Pic galleries, flash, video clips, ecomm systems, and of course, the business acumen and skill of a guy who has taught web des since 2001 and been doing it all day every day since Nov/Dec. 

If the tens of hours you spend building the site on your own is worth it, that is awesome.  But when I need a new shirt, I don't learn to sew.  I buy it, and save myself the 30 hours of sewing class so that I can do what is more profitable for me.  you only get so many hours per week, and if you can outsource a time-intensive task and do what makes you money, it makes sense.

(I often sell my websites to local firms looking to hire a part-timer.  I let them know that they're hiring a kid who needs a desk, PC, software, who could slip and fall and sue, who brings  his baggage to work.  They almost always prefer to outsource it- prepay $300 and get peace of mind. )


Just a quick comment on what Laura said regarding Rob's sites.

I was/am in the market for a web site. I went to a local company and discussed my needs. In the process I pulled up a couple of Rob's sites for the web designer to look at and we had a brief discussion  ( yes I have a life& no he's not in my head, I used the sites as examples of basic concepts and related prices.) I was told those sites were good basic sites, but nothing to write home about. The designer ( Alex ) said he suspects the fact that they are basic is a comment on lack of creativity, commitment and the lack of an artistic eye, not lack of tech knowlodge. I was also told ( something I did not know ) that all the templates and resources needed for the site are available on line free.

I guess everyone starts somewhere.

Rob, you have an MBA and have offered a great deal of marketing advice to people on the board. You have bargin basement prices, yet still " eat the tax." I was taught that cutting prices below a reasonable  amount compremises the perception of quality by potential consumers.

Is this perception of ( relative ) quality a concern to you? Your now going on record as saying you " eat the tax ." I assume you pay the government out of your own pocket. This would lead some less then liberal thinkers to wonder how the accounting practices of your company work. Do you do your own book of hire an outside accounting firm? I hope this is not too forward a question, but is all your income declared? You stated you earned $60,000., last year, was this reflected in your reports to the IRS? I only ask this because if you plan on doing the same thing this year ( I assume you will make at least as much or project to ) you will be " eating " $2400., for people who can write off the total cost of their business web sites. This is poor business.

Also, I wonder if you concider your conduct on GetBig as a limiting factor in your growth. If I was to do business with you and you quoted me a time of " x" for the completion of work I surely would factor into things your commitment to customer service based on  the excessive time you spend on-line playing word games with people. Someone buys the perception of you as a business man as much as the products you produce. You are your service and if you were taken more seriously, you might not need to discount your  products so much.

I ask these questions in a non bias's fashion. I wonder if you could comment on them.

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4172 on: June 11, 2006, 08:00:20 AM »
How can anyone discredit this guy.  ???

This is his FIRST SHOW EVER! And look how he nailed his conditioning!..

Wasnt just transformation from---> fat to ---->bodybuilding shape, it was also to-------->COntest shape.

He has an amazing base to build from now...the hard part is done, just has to maintain (low bf) ,improve and build on what he has earned.

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4173 on: June 11, 2006, 08:07:01 AM »
Congrats Mike!!

You are f*ckin sliced man!   And on your first show?!  Wow..you've definately got the conditioning nailed...

Congratulations bro!  You've earned it

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Re: The Making of The Long Road to Compete 2005 -2007
« Reply #4174 on: June 11, 2006, 08:07:18 AM »
We need a new Mike thread
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