If Arnold never retired (HOW MANY Mr. Olympia titles?)

[NarcissisticDeity]

His waist is out of control.

True 

[Hulkster]

You can't explain 2001 in fact you claimed Ronnie dominated the contest by losing the whole prejudging more of your retard logic

but he 'lost' the prejudging in the eyes of the judges only

reality shows a much different story:

luckily the judges smartened up by the evening show and came to thier senses:

[Hulkster]

having said that, Arnold would likely have won up to 1980- and probably 81 and 82 as well if he gained some quad size back.

but Samir in 1983 would have beaten him

[Danimal77]

but he 'lost' the prejudging in the eyes of the judges only

reality shows a much different story:

luckily the judges smartened up by the evening show and came to thier senses:

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT Hulkster, this isn't about RONNIE FUCKING COLEMAN. STOP HIJACKING EVERY GODDAMN THREAD!!!! It's about Arnold you fuck!

[Hulkster]

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT Hulkster, this isn't about RONNIE FUCKING COLEMAN. STOP HIJACKING EVERY GODDAMN THREAD!!!! It's about Arnold you fuck!

hahahaa monster meltdown

[Danimal77]

All you guys fail to realize that Arnold STOPPED improving in 1974 because he stopped caring about bodybuilding and wanted to focus more on HOLLYWOOD. If he would continued to take his shit seriously, we NEVER know what he would have looked like by 1980. The man may have weighed 260 in competition with 23 arms. He was at his best in 1974 at 27 years of age. Definitely NOT his peak. You guys who are saying that a 5'7" 195 pound Sammir would have beat him don't realize that by 1983 Arnold may have been a REAL THREAT to everyone throughout the 80's, including Lee Haney. We never saw that Arnold because A. he REALLY retired in 1974 and he never really have to push himself THAT hard because of his weak competition.

[The Wizard of Truth]

He never won the Arnold Classic though!!

[NarcissisticDeity]

but he 'lost' the prejudging in the eyes of the judges only

reality shows a much different story:

luckily the judges smartened up by the evening show and came to thier senses:

ha ha ha ha meltdown even Ronnie knew he lost that one 

[CastIron]

Bam!

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[Royal Lion]

I think its safe to say that Arnold had the best chest of all time.  And its a good thing because of that monster 34-inch waist...

[body88]

Ridiculous.  Looks better than every pro today.

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[Royal Lion]

Is that Kevin Levrone? 

What do you think Arnold weighed there? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Is that Kevin Levrone? 

What do you think Arnold weighed there? 

Good question , it was right before the 75 Olympia so he should be right around 235-240 pounds

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[suckmymuscle]

  According to Uncle Joe, 11. Arnold would have won all Olympias between 1976 and 1979 as well. Personally, I believe that prime Arnold is better than Haney, Chris Dickerson, Columbo and Samir Bannout, but we have no idea how Arnold would look in the mid to late eighties if he still competed. Bodybuilders usually peak in their late thirties, but some peak as young as in their late twenties to early thirties and then only decline after that. Arnold would have perhaps beeen that case. But let's assume that he would maintain his peak and only start declining after 40 due to age. Then, he would win all Olympias until 1987. By the 88' Olympia, Haney was as big and ripped as prime Arnold and Arnold would have undoubtedly declined at age 41. So, in my opinion, Arnold would have won all Olympias between 1970 and 1987. Conclusion:

  18 Sandows.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

  This is the answer. End thread.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[Danimal77]

To think that Arnold could have been competing that year (1985). He looked MASSIVE at 240 pounds in 1984 for T1 and lean and muscular in 1985 for Commando and all the way up to Predator in 1987. He was still at his peak during these years and I'm sure only casually hit the gym while filming one movie after another. No doubt he was still juicing, but one can only imagine how far he could have gone after 1974. By the mid 80's he had developed some serious muscle maturity and God knows he had the genetics to compete in ANY ERA seeing he was WAY ahead of his time in the 1970's.

[NarcissisticDeity]

To think that Arnold could have been competing that year (1985). He looked MASSIVE at 240 pounds in 1984 for T1 and lean and muscular in 1985 for Commando and all the way up to Predator in 1987. He was still at his peak during these years and I'm sure only casually hit the gym while filming one movie after another. No doubt he was still juicing, but one can only imagine how far he could have gone after 1974. By the mid 80's he had developed some serious muscle maturity and God knows he had the genetics to compete in ANY ERA seeing he was WAY ahead of his time in the 1970's.

That's what makes him the greatest of all-time

[Hulkster]

That's what makes him the greatest of all-time

behind Ronald Dean Coleman..

[The Master]

  This is the answer. End thread.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Whether his body could have withstand the pressures of 18 olympias = questionable. Brutal health deterioration.

[NarcissisticDeity]

behind Ronald Dean Coleman..

Not really if you think about it and I'll explain why , Ronnie has more Sandows however Arnold started the trend of more than 3 , he retired undfeated , and he could have won even more than Ronnie if he choose to which is a fact , then you factor in what he did for the sport , how he promoted it etc and then factor in the rest of his career and he really is the greatest bodybuilder of all time

[suckmymuscle]

Whether his body could have withstand the pressures of 18 olympias = questionable. Brutal health deterioration.

  We are accepting as an a priori axiom that he would maintain the form he had in his prime into the mid to late eighties. There is no reason not to. Arnold would be 37 in 1984 when Haney won his first Olympia, and most 37 year old bodybuilders are just peaking.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

[hench]

Haney once stated that he had no real competition as Arnold had retired