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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #125 on: May 27, 2009, 12:36:20 PM »
not saying that blacks were responsible for its passing; only that blacks overwhelmingly supported it

Support of gay rights is highly correlated with knowing gay people.    Time for all the guys on the down-low to come out.

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #126 on: May 27, 2009, 12:39:24 PM »
not saying that blacks were responsible for its passing; only that blacks overwhelmingly supported it

Ok, you're right.

But even if I work to get that 70% number down to 35%, though, I'm still WAY short on the 'no' side. 

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #127 on: May 27, 2009, 12:40:24 PM »
Support of gay rights is highly correlated with knowing gay people.    Time for all the guys on the down-low to come out.

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No one wants to be outed, but if I have to position my minions outside every Mormon church in California, I will.   ;D

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #128 on: May 27, 2009, 12:43:11 PM »
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#CAI01p1

yes on 8 by race:

white - 49%
black - 70%
latino - 53%
asian - 49%
other - 51%
I am very pleased every time I see these numbers.  :)
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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #129 on: May 27, 2009, 12:47:01 PM »

not saying that blacks were responsible for its passing; only that blacks overwhelmingly supported it



It's one of those issues like abortion where blacks tend to be fairly conservative. Dudes on the 'down-low' are there for a reason, LOL! It's really not culturally endorsed.

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #130 on: May 27, 2009, 12:50:01 PM »
Dudes on the 'down-low' are there for a reason, LOL! It's really not culturally endorsed.

it wasn't exactly in my culture either in 1982, but I still came out, and survived.

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #131 on: May 27, 2009, 12:54:06 PM »
It's one of those issues like abortion where blacks tend to be fairly conservative. Dudes on the 'down-low' are there for a reason, LOL! It's really not culturally endorsed.

perhaps monogamy and a reasonable level of birth control would be a better place for such conservatism.  that's a serious comment, by the way

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #132 on: May 27, 2009, 12:56:10 PM »
it wasn't exactly in my culture either in 1982, but I still came out, and survived.

I'm 'out' as a vocal supporter and business has never been better.  Not a single one of my gay friends has ever tried to 'turn me gay'. 

The gayest thing about me is that I own an iPhone.   :-[

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #133 on: May 27, 2009, 12:56:52 PM »
It's one of those issues like abortion where blacks tend to be fairly conservative. Dudes on the 'down-low' are there for a reason, LOL! It's really not culturally endorsed.

Yet there are *many* black 'men' (??) who wear earrings.

"Hey, girlfriend!"

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #134 on: May 27, 2009, 01:01:16 PM »
it wasn't exactly in my culture either in 1982, but I still came out, and survived.

Sorry... I tried really hard to not do this. :)

perhaps monogamy and a reasonable level of birth control would be a better place for such conservatism

Didn't say the bias made sense.


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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #135 on: May 27, 2009, 01:06:38 PM »

Didn't say the bias made sense.

yes, i know.

it really makes me wonder about "cultural karma", though

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #136 on: May 27, 2009, 01:08:55 PM »
Most irrelevant thing going on in US 'politics'.

Take away marriage entitlements and the entire 'problem' is solved.
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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #137 on: May 27, 2009, 01:09:16 PM »
Sorry... I tried really hard to not do this. :)

Good stuff!

Love the one print: "Dip me in honey and throw me to the lesbians".

I'm ALL over that one!   ;D

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #138 on: May 27, 2009, 01:11:04 PM »
yes, i know.

it really makes me wonder about "cultural karma", though

Blacks do tend to be insanely protective of gay relatives but don't generally endorse homosexuality. All the stuff about people being on the low is stupid, IMO. Married, engaged or whatever people shouldn't be sneaking around on their partners and using cultural norms as an excuse for bad behavior.

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #139 on: May 27, 2009, 01:14:17 PM »
Most irrelevant thing going on in US 'politics'.

Take away marriage entitlements and the entire 'problem' is solved.

Marriage entitlements being taken away wouldn't end the argument. This is about having homosexuality considered 'normal' in American society.

Maybe we should outlaw all marriage, LOL!

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #140 on: May 27, 2009, 01:15:09 PM »
Blacks do tend to be insanely protective of gay relatives but don't generally endorse homosexuality.

I remember it being a very big deal when ____ decided to bring his 'friend' to a family gathering...but it was one of those things no one wanted to talk about. 

Once there, though, the friend was welcomed with open arms and everyone had a good time.  Afterwards, of course, some of the elders  said things like "well, he was a nice young man, but I just don't agree with it", but all was good in the 'hood. 




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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #141 on: May 27, 2009, 01:15:47 PM »
Marriage entitlements being taken away wouldn't end the argument. This is about having homosexuality considered 'normal' in American society.

Maybe we should outlaw all marriage, LOL!

Not a bad idea.

Take away marriage and more guys might be able to start having sex again.

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #142 on: May 27, 2009, 01:18:13 PM »
Marriage entitlements being taken away wouldn't end the argument. This is about having homosexuality considered 'normal' in American society.

Maybe we should outlaw all marriage, LOL!

Americans are too 'conservative' to ever consider homosexuality 'normal'. Lost cause in the US.
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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #143 on: May 27, 2009, 01:20:29 PM »
I'm 'out' as a vocal supporter and business has never been better.  Not a single one of my gay friends has ever tried to 'turn me gay'. 

The gayest thing about me is that I own an iPhone.   :-[
hun and your second gayest thing is that you're a Getbig.com member

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #144 on: May 27, 2009, 01:20:57 PM »
I remember it being a very big deal when ____ decided to bring his 'friend' to a family gathering...but it was one of those things no one wanted to talk about. 

Once there, though, the friend was welcomed with open arms and everyone had a good time.  Afterwards, of course, some of the elders  said things like "well, he was a nice young man, but I just don't agree with it", but all was good in the 'hood. 





You're a nice guy. It's no surprise they liked you. :)

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #145 on: May 27, 2009, 01:22:55 PM »
What exactly is the issue with Americans and gay men? I mean, do they spend all their time envisioning them engaging in anal sex? What is the issue? ???
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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #146 on: May 27, 2009, 01:37:58 PM »
the entire argument surrounding 'gay rights' is centered around whether homosexuality is a born physical difference (in the brain, obviously) versus a chosen behavior.  naturally, if it's a physical difference, individuals may rightfully require protection from discrimination.

funny thing is, as long as i've been around, i have become convinced that it's neither a physical difference nor a choice - but rather a childhood environmental process that causes, say, a male to be almost hypnotically drawn into the psyche of his very influential mother.  it's just the nature of the developing mind to do this and it explains so much, including sometimes wildly feminine mannerisms, etc.



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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #147 on: May 27, 2009, 01:43:09 PM »
the entire argument surrounding 'gay rights' is centered around whether homosexuality is a born physical difference (in the brain, obviously) versus a chosen behavior.  naturally, if it's a physical difference, individuals may rightfully require protection from discrimination.

funny thing is, as long as i've been around, i have become convinced that it's neither a physical difference nor a choice - but rather a childhood environmental process that causes, say, a male to be almost hypnotically drawn into the psyche of his very influential mother.  it's just the nature of the developing mind to do this and it explains so much, including sometimes wildly feminine mannerisms, etc.



so are you telling us you were born last night? ::)

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #148 on: May 27, 2009, 01:50:12 PM »
You're a nice guy. It's no surprise they liked you. :)

LOL!!!!   ;D

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Re: California Supreme Court votes 6-1 to uphold gay marriage ban
« Reply #149 on: May 27, 2009, 01:54:16 PM »
so are you telling us you were born last night? ::)

did i hit a nerve