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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2009, 06:24:00 AM »
thats alot more than GH there.

thats 1 g+ a week of test- and thats just test- not including his other anabolics and androgenics, for the last year.

looks like he got handy with the humalog as well.

good for him- he looks great.

Yes but it helps answer the original poster  :P

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2009, 07:35:56 AM »
Extended use of frank GH can suppress the natural pulsatile secretions.

Secretagogues are the way of the future.


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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2009, 07:45:13 AM »
Extended use of frank GH can suppress the natural pulsatile secretions.

Secretagogues are the way of the future.


I'm thinking eventually of experimenting with injectable G.H. releasing peptides like G.H. peptide 6, GH peptide 2, Hexarelin, and Semorelin acetate. These have good research as far as releasing substantial amounts of Growth Hormone. What's more I believe your own growth hormone is better tolerated by the body than the synthetic form..which even with the correct amino acid sequence can still trigger anti-body formation.

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2009, 08:12:17 AM »
I'm thinking eventually of experimenting with injectable G.H. releasing peptides like G.H. peptide 6, GH peptide 2, Hexarelin, and Semorelin acetate. These have good research as far as releasing substantial amounts of Growth Hormone. What's more I believe your own growth hormone is better tolerated by the body than the synthetic form..which even with the correct amino acid sequence can still trigger anti-body formation.

Frank GH use is also going to induce insulin resistance, which long term is always a bad thing.

There is meant to be some new recombinant GH fraction that avoids this, however I am not sure how widely available it is.

This is the other issue I have with the use of frank GH; the recominant formula is only one of the hundreds of fragments of GH that are naturally occurring, obviously they must serve some purpose, so that fits with the body tolerating (or preferring) your own GH.

As well, naturall GH production does not decrease with age, the secretion does, so all that it takes is some form of stimulation.


I think CJC-1295 looks interesting as well.

When I am prepping, I take 6 g of arginine before bed (empty stomach) to trigger a bigger natural GH release.




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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2009, 08:55:42 AM »
Yes but it helps answer the original poster  :P

yes, depending on dosage.

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #30 on: June 13, 2009, 09:17:18 AM »

Secretagogues are the way of the future.



Not for competitive bodybuilding purposes.  :D

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #31 on: June 13, 2009, 09:23:02 AM »
how come guys in arnolds time looked muchh better then these chemical experiments of today?

There was an incremental progression. In the 60s and early 70s it was basically just an oral and injectible roid stack. Until the mid-late 70s GH use was almost non-existent since it was expensive and unknown. No synthetic GH and even when it was used later in the 70s then 80s GH hardened and changed the look but not the way the addition of slin and it's interaction with GH did as well as the addition of IGF-1, etc. Plus the doses have often increased.

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #32 on: June 13, 2009, 10:55:05 AM »
      It all depends on how much GH you take.I have seen a guy who competed at 190lbs 2yrs    ago who took 12 iu's a day of GH now compete at 250lbs.One factor you have to take in consideration is how well your body repsnds to GH.I know guys who only take 4IU'S a day and look amazing, then you got guys like King Kimali who probably to over 10 iu's a day and he looks horrible.With GH it can make or break your physique.Plus one negative thing about GH is it speeds up cells, good and bad.If you have Cancer or Leukemia cells lingering in your body, guess what.They with expand as well.If you dont believe me, ask Mr Dennis Newman.He had no health problems at all, then he increased his GH levels and he got Leukemia.
Plus if you take GH when you are young lets say 18 it can cause gigantism, this is when your limbs grow.A 18 your old bodybuilder got it from GH.It isnt pretty he is ruined for life.One arm grew 3" length, his leg grew 4" in length, and one arm got gigantically huge.He was a good looking kid, not he is a disfigured freak.Was it wortih it, not for him
The other sad reality is you have scum bags out there selling HCG as GH.So that $700 kit of GH you thought you bought was just an expensive supply of HCG.The way to tell if your GH is HCG is just buy a home pregancy test.If it shows + then you just got scammed.

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2009, 10:58:32 AM »
 If you dont believe me, ask Mr Dennis Newman.He had no health problems at all, then he increased his GH levels and he got Leukemia.


Dennis went back on GH after the leukemia went into remission. I don't know him, you ask him why.  :D

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2009, 11:00:00 AM »
      It all depends on how much GH you take.I have seen a guy who competed at 190lbs 2yrs    ago who took 12 iu's a day of GH now compete at 250lbs.One factor you have to take in consideration is how well your body repsnds to GH.I know guys who only take 4IU'S a day and look amazing, then you got guys like King Kimali who probably to over 10 iu's a day and he looks horrible.With GH it can make or break your physique.Plus one negative thing about GH is it speeds up cells, good and bad.If you have Cancer or Leukemia cells lingering in your body, guess what.They with expand as well.If you dont believe me, ask Mr Dennis Newman.He had no health problems at all, then he increased his GH levels and he got Leukemia.
Plus if you take GH when you are young lets say 18 it can cause gigantism, this is when your limbs grow.A 18 your old bodybuilder got it from GH.It isnt pretty he is ruined for life.One arm grew 3" length, his leg grew 4" in length, and one arm got gigantically huge.He was a good looking kid, not he is a disfigured freak.Was it wortih it, not for him
The other sad reality is you have scum bags out there selling HCG as GH.So that $700 kit of GH you thought you bought was just an expensive supply of HCG.The way to tell if your GH is HCG is just buy a home pregancy test.If it shows + then you just got scammed.

hey NY...please post your best pic

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2009, 11:03:06 AM »
Yes...... Gh's ability to burn fat and promote an anabolic state is mind boggling.  Throw in a large dose of exogenous testosterone, tren and dbol or drol and look out. 

On a side note, GH will get you laid, a contract in hollywood and millions.

GH = almost as good as Plasmosis.
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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2009, 11:17:23 AM »
Dennis Newman is a good guy.The reason he went back on GH after the Leukemia was he missed being in the limelight.He missed being in the magazines, and all the attention he was getting from his bodybuilding career.Dennis Newman was probably one of the best looking bodybuilders, facial wise, and he had great a great physique.After his Leukemia went in remission he figured im still young, why not continue on with my success as a bodybuilder.
Which I think was foolish, he should has just stayed lean used a little gear, and became a model like Frank Sepe did.Dennis would have done great as an actor or model.He was tall,had good abdominals, and had charisma.People liked Dennis, he is a likeable guy .
I was friends with Dennis when he lived in Vegas about 2-3 years ago.He is a really really cool guy, and he has a pretty wife who is very sweet.She supports Dennis in every way.I think to this day Dennis should just get lean and do magazine cover like Chritian Boering does, the guy from Bigger Stronger, Faster, who got fired by Muscletech for being Honest.
By the was VPX picked up Christian Boering ,and he is doing very well with them.
Dennis Newman is probably 39-40 so he still has 10 good years left in him do go some where in a career as model or spokesperson.

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2009, 01:01:40 PM »
Frank GH use is also going to induce insulin resistance, which long term is always a bad thing.

There is meant to be some new recombinant GH fraction that avoids this, however I am not sure how widely available it is.

This is the other issue I have with the use of frank GH; the recominant formula is only one of the hundreds of fragments of GH that are naturally occurring, obviously they must serve some purpose, so that fits with the body tolerating (or preferring) your own GH.

As well, naturall GH production does not decrease with age, the secretion does, so all that it takes is some form of stimulation.


I think CJC-1295 looks interesting as well.

When I am prepping, I take 6 g of arginine before bed (empty stomach) to trigger a bigger natural GH release.




The CJC-1295 is supposed to be a long lasting form of GH releasing hormone, one injection and you supposedly have elevated GH response for close to a week. I actually bought some a year agao..but I never used it (was a little anxious about it and felt a little like a guinea pig) and it expired.

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2009, 01:35:06 PM »
The CJC-1295 is supposed to be a long lasting form of GH releasing hormone, one injection and you supposedly have elevated GH response for close to a week. I actually bought some a year agao..but I never used it (was a little anxious about it and felt a little like a guinea pig) and it expired.

I have read somewhere it is a really difficult peptide to produce, so it is essential to have a good source (not Chinese).

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2009, 02:01:17 PM »
      It all depends on how much GH you take.I have seen a guy who competed at 190lbs 2yrs    ago who took 12 iu's a day of GH now compete at 250lbs.One factor you have to take in consideration is how well your body repsnds to GH.I know guys who only take 4IU'S a day and look amazing, then you got guys like King Kimali who probably to over 10 iu's a day and he looks horrible.With GH it can make or break your physique.Plus one negative thing about GH is it speeds up cells, good and bad.If you have Cancer or Leukemia cells lingering in your body, guess what.They with expand as well.If you dont believe me, ask Mr Dennis Newman.He had no health problems at all, then he increased his GH levels and he got Leukemia.
Plus if you take GH when you are young lets say 18 it can cause gigantism, this is when your limbs grow.A 18 your old bodybuilder got it from GH.It isnt pretty he is ruined for life.One arm grew 3" length, his leg grew 4" in length, and one arm got gigantically huge.He was a good looking kid, not he is a disfigured freak.Was it wortih it, not for him
The other sad reality is you have scum bags out there selling HCG as GH.So that $700 kit of GH you thought you bought was just an expensive supply of HCG.The way to tell if your GH is HCG is just buy a home pregancy test.If it shows + then you just got scammed.

pics of said gigantism case please
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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2009, 03:17:25 PM »
pics of said gigantism case please
its not real bro

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2009, 03:22:53 PM »
thats alot more than GH there.

thats 1 g+ a week of test- and thats just test- not including his other anabolics and androgenics, for the last year.

looks like he got handy with the humalog as well.

good for him- he looks great.

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2009, 06:17:40 PM »
friends insted of arguing bunch of balonie why dont you follow the diet i outlined here,, do it lets say umm 4 months ,,, its fun diet right?

you need growth hormone
testosterone
masteron
trenbolone
eq

and that is absolutly it

now read the diet i wrote here,,its a diet rich in calories,,,dont do even one second cardio only lift very heavy 4-5 times a week,,,have some solid foundation dont be a fella who just enter the gym becaise you do need to have some experience for what gh15 writes,,

now eat the diet i wrote here and ad the products i outlined here and see what happens


6 months from the moment you start you will hold gh15 as master of all masters ,,god of all gods ,,you most likey will tatoo gh15 on your arm

again iit is very dirty diet right? fun fun fun right? try it see that diet has nothign to do with bodybuilding now days as long as you eay what you need to eat at moderatation and in ratio to the drugs youre on

you see many times fellas in gyms who have no clue about diet and are on leq and testosterone who are absolutrely big muscular and low body fat,,they have no clue about clean diets,,

the prodiucts i outline here almost elminiate the need to diet clean UNLESS it is 4% that you want ,,for 4% you will have to clean your diet but for 6-7% there wil never be a need to clean diet EVER

also with out hormones no one can do it because the moment ones eat very clean is the moment ones shrink and get flat ,,it always happen even if you play with carb intake...you will lose too much muscle to make any impression on any one as of 2009,, that is ofcourse if youre TRULY natural,,

you want to ever feel what it is to ralk around 240 at 7% at 5'9 ? try what i wrote in this thread ,,you will see bodybuiding in a whole diff light after,,DO NOT START THIS WHEN YOURE FAT ,,be low double digit or high singles


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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #43 on: June 13, 2009, 10:58:27 PM »
Thanks again for the info gh15!

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2009, 12:23:33 AM »
I have read somewhere it is a really difficult peptide to produce, so it is essential to have a good source (not Chinese).

thats ignorant, most chinese manufacturers take great pride in their products. its not the country that matters but the integrity of the source. the chinese have yet to figure out that the western world translates "cheap" into " low quality"...

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2009, 03:43:14 AM »
thats ignorant, most chinese manufacturers take great pride in their products. its not the country that matters but the integrity of the source. the chinese have yet to figure out that the western world translates "cheap" into " low quality"...

Top quality dog food and baby food right there.

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2009, 04:24:16 AM »
thats ignorant, most chinese manufacturers take great pride in their products. its not the country that matters but the integrity of the source. the chinese have yet to figure out that the western world translates "cheap" into " low quality"...

It is a gamble sorting out which manufacturers are good or not.


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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2009, 02:53:45 PM »
      It all depends on how much GH you take.I have seen a guy who competed at 190lbs 2yrs    ago who took 12 iu's a day of GH now compete at 250lbs.One factor you have to take in consideration is how well your body repsnds to GH.I know guys who only take 4IU'S a day and look amazing, then you got guys like King Kimali who probably to over 10 iu's a day and he looks horrible.With GH it can make or break your physique.Plus one negative thing about GH is it speeds up cells, good and bad.If you have Cancer or Leukemia cells lingering in your body, guess what.They with expand as well.If you dont believe me, ask Mr Dennis Newman.He had no health problems at all, then he increased his GH levels and he got Leukemia.
Plus if you take GH when you are young lets say 18 it can cause gigantism, this is when your limbs grow.A 18 your old bodybuilder got it from GH.It isnt pretty he is ruined for life.One arm grew 3" length, his leg grew 4" in length, and one arm got gigantically huge.He was a good looking kid, not he is a disfigured freak.Was it wortih it, not for him
The other sad reality is you have scum bags out there selling HCG as GH.So that $700 kit of GH you thought you bought was just an expensive supply of HCG.The way to tell if your GH is HCG is just buy a home pregancy test.If it shows + then you just got scammed.

in the end, this pretty much sums up how effective GH administration will be for each individual.
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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2009, 03:00:18 PM »
pics of said gigantism case please

yeah, starting to think this guy talks a lot of shit

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Re: Is Growth Hormone really as effective as GH15 claims?
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2009, 03:04:19 PM »
hey NY...please post your best pic
He'll never do it.  The guy is 180lbs soaking wet.  I see him often.
He always comes up to me asking where he can find a nice sized lactating breast to grow like me. ::)
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