Boxing is dead

[tweeter]

True , because Basketball and Football didn't exist in the 50s,60s and 70s 

Boxing was more popular up until the 60's.

[Dredlock Rasta]

lol.

If you think a boxer is more athletic then Anderson Silva, Gsp etc you're more dellisional then Kamali.

Mayweather, Pacman, and Roy Jones Jr. are more athletic. GSP and Silva are very athletic, I give you that. However if they are so athletic why aren't they making millions in pro boxing? They simply don't have the athletic ability or maybe they enjoy MMA more.

[body88]

Mayweather, Pacman, and Roy Jones Jr. are more athletic. GSP and Silva are very athletic, I give you that. However if they are so athletic why aren't they making millions in pro boxing? They simply don't have the athletic ability or maybe they enjoy MMA more.

Clearly.  Why don't pro hockey players switch over to baseball and make tens of millions?  Hmm, maybe they like to play hockey   Boxing is dead to the general public.  No one gives a shit.  Lastly, how can you say Jones is more athletic than GSP?  What are you a athletics scout?  MMA is a new sport. I'd say it's doing pretty damn good considering it's age. In 10 years boxing will be an afterthought and MMA will still be raking in all the $.

[Dredlock Rasta]

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No shit.  Why don't pro hockey players switch over to baseball and make tens of millions?  Hmm. maybe they like to play hockey    Boxing is dead to the general public.  No one gives a shit.

Hockey and baseball have nothing in common. Maybe you could compare ice hockey to street hockey, that would be a better example. MMA and boxing are have similiar attritbutes. Boxing sells more and that's why they can afford to pay the fighter millions. MMA on the other hand, using the major organizations UFC and Affliction as examples, can't afford to pay the best MMA fighter that ever lived more that a million dollars a fight because they don't sell that many tickets or pay-per-views.

[body88]

Hockey and baseball have nothing in common. Maybe you could compare ice hockey to street hockey, that would be a better example. MMA and boxing are have similiar attritbutes. Boxing sells more and that's why they can afford to pay the fighter millions. MMA on the other hand, using the major organizations UFC and Affliction as examples, can't afford to pay the best MMA fighter that ever lived more that a million dollars a fight because they don't sell that many tickets or pay-per-views.

They don't?  Both sports require superior hand eye coordination, and I would think a hockey player would want to play an easier sport for x10 times the money.  Hockey vs street hockey?  Thats just silly.  The UFC is a pretty new sport....they are growing.  Boxing is dead.  No one cares for it, and the only reason it generates big purses is because of its age.

[whateva]

.  Boxing is dead.  No one cares for it, and the only reason it generates big purses is because of its age.

Oh brother ,money comes from boxing age.

   

Biggest one fight purse for each sport in 2008

MMA

Tim Sylvia - $800,000
Andre Arlovski -$749,690
Chuck Liddel l - $500,000
Kimbo Slice - $500,000
Brock Lesnar - $450,000
Forrest Griffin - $310,000
BJ Penn - $250,000
Randy Couture - $250,000
Anderson Silva - $200,000

Boxing

Oscar Delahoya - $24,000,000
Felix Trinidad - $14,000,000
Wladimir Klitschko - $12,000,000
Manny Pacquiao - $11,000,000
Joe Calzaghe - $10,000,000
Roy Jones - $10,000,000
Bernard Hopkins - $8,000,000
Miguel Cotto - $7,000,000
Kelly Pavlik - $3,000,000

[noworries]

Clearly.  Why don't pro hockey players switch over to baseball and make tens of millions?  Hmm, maybe they like to play hockey   Boxing is dead to the general public.  No one gives a shit.  Lastly, how can you say Jones is more athletic than GSP?  What are you a athletics scout?  MMA is a new sport. I'd say it's doing pretty damn good considering it's age. In 10 years boxing will be an afterthought and MMA will still be raking in all the $.

Give up on the "boxing is dead issue"  It is far from dead and the numbers prove it so quit making yourself look dumb.  And YES Roy Jones is more athletic than GSP in being versed at other sports.  Jones is a very very good basketball player and baseball player along with bowling and golf.  His hand speed makes GSP look like he has them in his pocket.  Do you have anything on GSP playing any sports above average other than wrestling maybe or anything to do with MMA.  And when you add up all the money a champion boxer makes in a year it adds up to more than ALL the champion in the UFC put together.  Exactly how long do you think that will last.

They don't?  Both sports require superior hand eye coordination, and I would think a hockey player would want to play an easier sport for x10 times the money.  Hockey vs street hockey?  Thats just silly.  The UFC is a pretty new sport....they are growing.  Boxing is dead.  No one cares for it, and the only reason it generates big purses is because of its age.

Well this goes against what you said before.  you said in 10 years boxing will be gone.  But here you say it makes so much money because it is old.  in ten years it will be 10 years older so wouldn't the purses even get higher.  What story will you tell us next, I can't wait

[Croatch]

UFC=White Trash Boxing
When you're not good enough to box professionally, MMA is looking for a few good men.
Finally, an arena of fighting where white people, actually have a chance.

[Pecs]

Swede you can't expect to just throw out numbers without getting called on it.  It is known how much the UFC paid the fighters.  Where did the other $3+ million come from.  I'm sure he has sponsors but can you name them and give us the exact amount Lesnar got.  Since you are the self-appointed President of the Lesnar Fan Club I am sure you have those numbers.  By the way boxing will be fine so no worries there.  We will wait....................

"Last night at the UFC 100 main event for the undisputed Heavyweight championship bout Brock Lesnar who retained the title not only put on a show by pummeling Frank Mir to the victory, but also put on a show for the crowd with his antics by giving the fans a double middle finger salute and also taking a shot at one of the UFC’s biggest sponsors in Bud Light. Despite all of that the UFC has paid Lesnar an estimated $3 million for his performance."

http://urdirt.com/2009/07/12/ufc-100...ing-bud-light/

[Pecs]

Posted on January 25, 2009
Filed Under Affliction News | 37 Comments

The wage bill for ‘Day of Reckoning’ has been released by the CSAC {California State Athletic Commission}. This will not included any bonuses or sponsorship money the fighters receive. These figures are courtesy of MMAweekley.com.

Legend

WB= Win Bonus

Fedor Emelianenko; $300,000 {no WB}
Andrei Arlovski; $1,500,000 {missed $250k WB}
Josh Barnett; $500,000 {no WB}
Gilbert Yvel; $30,000 {missed $9,300 WB}
Vitor Belfort; $200,000 {includes $80k WB}
Matt Lindland; $225,000 {missed $75k WB}
Renato ‘Babalu’ Sobral; $90,000 {includes $30k WB}
Thierry Sokoudjou; $50,000 {missed $50k WB}
Paul Buentello; $90,000 {includes $20k WB}
Kiril Sidelnikov; $10,000 {missed $25k WB}
Dan Lauzon; $12,000 {no WB}
Bobby Green; $4,000 {missed $4k WB}
Jay Hieron; $45,000 {includes $25k WB}
Jason High; $10,000 {missed $5k WB}
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira; $150,000 {includes $30k WB}
Vladimir Matyushenko; $50,000 {missed $30k WB}
LC Davis; $14,000 {includes $7k WB}
Bao Quach; $7,000 {missed $6k WB}
Albert Rios; $6,000 {includes $3k WB}
Antonio Duarte; $3,000 {missed $2k WB}
Brett Cooper; $10,000 {includes $5k WB}
Patrick Speight; $2,000 {missed $3k WB}

http://www.affliction-mma.com/?p=632


Andrei Arlovski's salary for just appearing in the fight is way more than Fedor. but not sure about after adding PPV cut, sponsers etc.

[arce1988]

first olympics


boxing

mma (pankration)

wrestling


guess which did not co exist?

[Cleanest Natural]

This is athleticism!!!!

THAT'S FUCKING 10.000 CLASSES TALENT WISE AND ATHLETICISM WISE COMPARED TO WHAT MMA HAS EVER SEEN

[DK II]

[LatsMcGee]

Boxing was more popular up until the 60's.

I think it had more to do with the fact that blacks just couldn't get into the good colleges in those days regardless of what kind of athletes they were. 

[Wiggs]

I don't disagree with the technical aspects of MMA, but the current hype stems from every Joe Blow Badass that "relates" to MMA.  Who can blame them?   They grew up watching wrasslin and new they neither had the size nor the charisma to make it there.   They watched boxing and simply didn't have the skillset.   They watch MMA and loe and behold the heavens open up cause it is such a mixed bag and everyone within is a diehard, dbag idiot....it's like they've finally found their niche.  MMA allows every self-proclaimed badass the opportunity to showoff their green belt judo skills.

Excellent post.

[The Jayhawker]

they get a % of the PPV buys also.

Im will search later, I have 2 females cover over in a few min HEHE

They DO NOT get a percentage of the PPV buys. This was a huge reason the Lidell and Couture started complaining a couple years ago when the UFC started getting bigger. The majority of their money is from endorsements, that's why you see the jerk-offs with the banners before the fights start.

[Palpatine Q]

UFC=White Trash Boxing
When you're not good enough to box professionally, MMA is looking for a few good men.
Finally, an arena of fighting where white people, actually have a chance.

Current Heavyweight Champion

[FREAKgeek]

I don't disagree with the technical aspects of MMA, but the current hype stems from every Joe Blow Badass that "relates" to MMA.  Who can blame them?   They grew up watching wrasslin and new they neither had the size nor the charisma to make it there.   They watched boxing and simply didn't have the skillset.   They watch MMA and loe and behold the heavens open up cause it is such a mixed bag and everyone within is a diehard, dbag idiot....it's like they've finally found their niche.  MMA allows every self-proclaimed badass the opportunity to showoff their green belt judo skills.

No. You are about 15 years too late with this comment. MMA has matured as sport with much more highly conditioned athletes. 

[FREAKgeek]

Nobody's watching that shit anymore
 

UFC 100 total purse (all fighters combined  ) $1.790,000.
Manny Pacquiao last fight purse (against Hatton)  $12 million
 
Oh brother ,Hahaaaa

Here is a world wide google trends search of UFC, MMA, and boxing.

MMA - red line
UFC - blue line
Boxing - orange line

With the exception of "Boxing Day" holiday spikes (which has nothing to with boxing), it is clear in the past few years that the sport is becomming more talked about and searched for than boxing.

[local hero]

when it gets down to brass tacks.. theres a massive talent pool to get thru before you even get to be an area boxing champion, some of these ufc fighters come out of no where, only been fighting 5mins and they seem to climb the ranks??

[spinnis]

THAT'S FUCKING 10.000 CLASSES TALENT WISE AND ATHLETICISM WISE COMPARED TO WHAT MMA HAS EVER SEEN

very cool.

What would make me watch boxing is if they made is like 6 rounds, and NO holding each other.
Then is would be entertaining all the time.
Not boring as SHIT like now.

[ATHEIST]

it takes more skill to be an elite boxer than an elite MMA'er, that said boxing is losing ground with popularity.

IMO boxing is much more detailed oriented and specific, you have less options on offense and your skill has to be scrutinized and specific. MAA requires a broader general knowledge of fighting skills, with more opportunity allowed there are more variables.

[Army of One]

Talent like this skips mma and goes for the big money in boxing.

[whateva]

Talent like this skips mma and goes for the big money in boxing.

Hahhaaa , Johnnynoname was a great entertainer

[spinnis]

Talent like this skips mma and goes for the big money in boxing.

didnt that guy kill someone with his car and his life went down hill after that?