New Jrodriguez pictures, holy shit even i doubt hes natural now

[#1 Klaus fan]

Come one! ...his contest weight is practically the same every year!!!! (some years a pound or two less)  This level of leaness is 100% achievable without drugs! it just takes a lot of self discipline and years of dedication to your diet.

So was Munzer just lazy or did he have horrible genetics? 

[#1 Klaus fan]

The reality is - he's more dedicated to bodybuilding than anyone in this thread.

He plans and records his diet for the entire year, not just pre-contest.
Doesn't drink
Doesn't eat fast/junk food
Never cheats on his diet
I remember reading that he doesn't even pig out at Christmas time

Has anyone else here done that for a couple years straight?

The thing is that won't achieve anything drastic in naturals. Advantage yes, but not domination. If you just are somewhat consistent with your training and diet you achieve 95 % of your potential in the end. Meaning, you can take 3 year breaks, get fat and get skinny some where along the line, it won't have big effect.

[Super Natural]

exactly

Donkey Kong/Stavios ...Have you guys ever dieted down with Low Volume  training?... Max Ot type training specifically?

[Stavios]

Donkey Kong/Stavios ...Have you guys ever dieted down with Low Volume  training?... Max Ot type training specifically?

yes

not max ot

[Super Natural]

yes

not max ot

I think that's how he hold onto his muscle....heavy low vol. + hardly any cardio + staying lean in the off season = no muscle loss.

Very few guys do this...Most get too fat off season & do more and more sets/cardio etc as they drop kcal, get leaner & close in on the show - IMO big mistake.

[Sir Humphrey]

I think that's how he hold onto his muscle....heavy low vol. + hardly any cardio + staying lean in the off season = no muscle loss.

Very few guys do this...Most get too fat off season & do more and more sets/cardio etc as they drop kcal, get leaner & close in on the show - IMO big mistake.

Yes. That's it. 

[DK II]

Donkey Kong/Stavios ...Have you guys ever dieted down with Low Volume  training?... Max Ot type training specifically?

Yes, i am natural so i take very much time when i diet down, i'm not a contest BB though, only recreational.

But i can see i lose muscle even when i diet down very slowly once i am under a certain % of bf, and i can't see why jrod doesn't have that.

I think that's how he hold onto his muscle....heavy low vol. + hardly any cardio + staying lean in the off season = no muscle loss.

Very few guys do this...Most get too fat off season & do more and more sets/cardio etc as they drop kcal, get leaner & close in on the show - IMO big mistake.

I'm by no means a jrod, not lifestyle wise, not genetically but it's impossible that he is that good naturally.

[wavelength]

Yes, i am natural so i take very much time when i diet down, i'm not a contest BB though, only recreational.
But i can see i lose muscle even when i diet down very slowly once i am under a certain % of bf, and i can't see why jrod doesn't have that.

What was the lowest in bodyfat you ever got? At what level do you think muscle loss increased significantly?

I'm by no means a jrod, not lifestyle wise, not genetically but it's impossible that he is that good naturally.

I would say it's possible although only with exceptional genetics.

[DK II]

What was the lowest in bodyfat you ever got? At what level do you think muscle loss increased significantly?

I would say it's possible although only with exceptional genetics.

Good question, i never measured it. But at some point i felt like i got smaller and smaller when i didn't eat more to build up. i cannot explain it really, but i think you know what i mean. The body doesn't want to burn more fat, so he starts burning muscle. You can stop that with either eating more, using some sort of fatburner like ECA or HGH or you can add some low dose test, this all will prevent muscle loss.


I think jrod has exceptional genetics and amazing work ethics, but nevertheless i would say he's not natural.

[wavelength]

Good question, i never measured it. But at some point i felt like i got smaller and smaller when i didn't eat more to build up. i cannot explain it really, but i think you know what i mean. The body doesn't want to burn more fat, so he starts burning muscle. You can stop that with either eating more, using some sort of fatburner like ECA or HGH or you can add some low dose test, this all will prevent muscle loss.

I think jrod has exceptional genetics and amazing work ethics, but nevertheless i would say he's not natural.

Of course, at some point muscle loss will increase (even with all fat burners and juice, the point will just come later).
Highly dependent on genetics for naturals (not using fat burners or juice). I'm sure jrod sacrifices quite some mass too for his contest condition.
IMO, jrod is still in the grey area where it could be possible that he's natural with great genetics.

[DK II]

Of course, at some point muscle loss will increase (even with all fat burners and juice, the point will just come later).
Highly dependent on genetics for naturals (not using fat burners or juice). I'm sure jrod sacrifices quite some mass too for his contest condition.
IMO, jrod is still in the grey area where it could be possible that he's natural with great genetics.

I'd say that chance is smaller than winning the lottery in the first try.

[hugestatus]

Good question, i never measured it. But at some point i felt like i got smaller and smaller when i didn't eat more to build up. i cannot explain it really, but i think you know what i mean. The body doesn't want to burn more fat, so he starts burning muscle. You can stop that with either eating more, using some sort of fatburner like ECA or HGH or you can add some low dose test, this all will prevent muscle loss.


I think jrod has exceptional genetics and amazing work ethics, but nevertheless i would say he's not natural.

If thats the case, he must be natural, cause he always looks full prior to contest but then looks thinner than pre contest

[DK II]

If thats the case, he must be natural, cause he always looks full prior to contest but then looks thinner than pre contest

well, he was 10 weeks out in the pics, let's wait for the contest pics.

[Marty Champions]

hes natural, hes just giving you guys a false diet cause you dont deserve to know

[DK II]

hes natural, hes just giving you guys a false diet cause you dont deserve to know

sea salt, olive oil, avocados and coffee?

 

[Marty Champions]

Yes, i am natural so i take very much time when i diet down, i'm not a contest BB though, only recreational.

But i can see i lose muscle even when i diet down very slowly once i am under a certain % of bf, and i can't see why jrod doesn't have that.

I'm by no means a jrod, not lifestyle wise, not genetically but it's impossible that he is that good naturally.

hahah epic donkey kong critiquing dieting at 30% obese bodyfat  


dk doesnt even have the confidence of posting a single picture

[Marty Champions]

sea salt, olive oil, avocados and coffee?

 

hahah you wish it was that easy there sport

[DK II]

hahah epic donkey kong critiquing dieting at 30% obese bodyfat  


dk doesnt even have the confidence of posting a single picture

And obviously that means i am 30% bf?

You're a stupid idiot, but you already know that, no? 

[Marty Champions]

seriously donky when can you acheive 14 inch arms and a 2 pack. do you just sit around all day and night posting? you need to build up your internet cred you peice of shit  

[Marty Champions]

And obviously that means i am 30% bf?

You're a stupid idiot, but you already know that, no? 

post a pic blurr out your face chubbo

[DK II]

seriously donky when can you acheive 14 inch arms and a 2 pack. do you just sit around all day and night posting? you need to build up your internet cred you peice of shit  

 

Johnny, you look way better than me, i give you that. You have a good body and good genetics, and i also think you have good work ethics and train your ass off.

But you're one dumb piece of shit, it's amazing how dumb you are. Go back to fucking your hillbilly sister instead of fantasizing about my body.  

Have you ever thought about going back to elementary school and visiting a shrink? It could improve your life a lot.

[DK II]

post a pic blurr out your face chubbo

lmao @ chubbo

 

[Marty Champions]

lmao @ chubbo

 

your gonna spend all day here proving your little internet points  seriously man life is passin you by and you try to drag everyone down with you putting up with your dreadful arguments in wich you have countless hours of time to waste

[Marty Champions]

Johnny, you look way better than me, i give you that. You have a good body and good genetics, and i also think you have good work ethics and train your ass off.

But you're one dumb piece of shit, it's amazing how dumb you are. Go back to fucking your hillbilly sister instead of fantasizing about my body.  

Have you ever thought about going back to elementary school and visiting a shrink? It could improve your life a lot.

you have all fuckin day to blither your shit dont you

[DK II]

your gonna spend all day here proving your little internet points  seriously man life is passin you by and you try to drag everyone down with you putting up with your dreadful arguments in wich you have countless hours of time to waste

lol, you don't know shit about me, you stupid crackhead.

it's amazing that some american hillbilly painter who smokes meth and crack thinks he can tell people about their lifes.

You should care more about your own life, dude.