Author Topic: proof of paul chua scam (Read 7181 times)

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #50 on:** August 22, 2009, 03:13:18 PM »

Quote from: chaos on August 22, 2009, 02:43:35 PM

Rumor has it that the IFBB wants Milos to sign a paper that says he won't sue them for all the $$$ he lost due to their political influence with his sponsors, etc before they'll let him back in.

Why would they do that

So Milos didnt follow the process but indentified a rat - that is messed up

noworries · « **Reply #51 on:** August 22, 2009, 04:25:53 PM »

Quote from: Chick on August 22, 2009, 11:40:43 AM

Because his actions were as a member of the pro league...and officials are officials, there is no distinction of amateur or Pro in the rules regarding such.

So you are saying to then if a Major League baseball player is a little league coach too and gets in an argument with an umpire at a Little League game and bumps into him and pushes him, he should get suspended from playing major league baseball because an umpire is an umpire?

asianmyth · « **Reply #52 on:** August 22, 2009, 10:40:49 PM »

Quote from: Schmoe Buster on August 20, 2009, 08:55:01 AM

not old news it happened yesterday, he will be in court tomorrow!

u seems to have first hand knowledge about the satuation in HK.can u update us what happened in court.

Chevron427 · « **Reply #53 on:** August 22, 2009, 11:49:13 PM »

Quote from: Chick on August 21, 2009, 01:20:45 PM

Apologize for what? No one questioned whether you were right or wrong, it was your lack of following protocol and chain of command, and lack of providing proof of allegations, which is what you were suspended for....Chua could have been ousted a year earlier if you didnt open your big yapper and give him every opportunity to cover his ass...

You still dont get it.

Imagine having this guy stick up for you if he were your union rep or equivalent at work.....

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #54 on:** August 23, 2009, 12:02:18 AM »

Quote from: Chevron427 on August 22, 2009, 11:49:13 PM

Imagine having this guy stick up for you if he were your union rep or equivalent at work.....

not a qualified advocate

OneManGang · « **Reply #55 on:** August 23, 2009, 04:36:35 AM »

Of course protocol is more important than getting rid of crooks. This is why IFBB is such a dynamic organization. And..chick is right...as always

Chick · « **Reply #56 on:** August 23, 2009, 04:49:01 AM »

Quote from: noworries on August 22, 2009, 04:25:53 PM

So you are saying to then if a Major League baseball player is a little league coach too and gets in an argument with an umpire at a Little League game and bumps into him and pushes him, he should get suspended from playing major league baseball because an umpire is an umpire?

I'm saying if a NFL player is caught bankrolling a dog fighting ring, he might just get suspended from the National football league...

BTW, the little league umpire is not a part of the MLB

Not one of your smarter posts

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #57 on:** August 23, 2009, 04:51:10 AM »

Quote from: asianmyth on August 22, 2009, 10:40:49 PM

u seems to have first hand knowledge about the satuation in HK.can u update us what happened in court.

He will go on trial on September the 11th

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #58 on:** August 23, 2009, 05:02:12 AM »

Quote from: Schmoe Buster on August 23, 2009, 04:51:10 AM

He will go on trial on September the 11th

what is he being charged with?

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #59 on:** August 23, 2009, 05:07:21 AM »

Quote from: bigdumbbell on August 23, 2009, 05:02:12 AM

what is he being charged with?

fraud and arranging/accepting bribes, there maybe other charges im not sure, he most likely will do time

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #60 on:** August 23, 2009, 05:14:58 AM »

Quote from: Schmoe Buster on August 23, 2009, 05:07:21 AM

fraud and arranging/accepting bribes, there maybe other charges im not sure, he most likely will do time

thanks for the info fellow getbigger. is there an english language link to media coverage that you're aware of? if not, is it taking place inHK or where? sank u...that's asian for thank you.

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #61 on:** August 23, 2009, 06:00:30 AM »

Quote from: bigdumbbell on August 23, 2009, 05:14:58 AM

thanks for the info fellow getbigger. is there an english language link to media coverage that you're aware of? if not, is it taking place inHK or where? sank u...that's asian for thank you.

Yes is being tried in HK court , its in the newspapers in HK in English, dont know any links, probably wont be any more news until after the next court date!

asianmyth · « **Reply #62 on:** August 23, 2009, 06:09:24 AM »

Quote from: Schmoe Buster on August 23, 2009, 05:07:21 AM

fraud and arranging/accepting bribes, there maybe other charges im not sure, he most likely will do time

thanks for the info.this is an imprtant case.it will decide the fate of newly formed asian and world bb fedration by Rat(chua) and osama.
Asian olympic concil watching it very closely.Not very good news for bodybuilding though cuz bodbuidling could get kicked out of asian beach game as well.

Schmoe Buster · « **Reply #63 on:** August 23, 2009, 06:34:34 AM »

Quote from: asianmyth on August 23, 2009, 06:09:24 AM

thanks for the info.this is an imprtant case.it will decide the fate of newly formed asian and world bb fedration by Rat(chua) and osama.
Asian olympic concil watching it very closely.Not very good news for bodybuilding though cuz bodbuidling could get kicked out of asian beach game as well.

its already been kicked out of the East Asia games which will be in HK, its been kicked out of the Asian games, and im sure it will be kicked out of the beach games also, not good for bodybuilding at all but its all Chua and the other scum like Chan that have caused this

noworries · « **Reply #64 on:** August 23, 2009, 09:05:35 AM »

Quote from: Chick on August 23, 2009, 04:49:01 AM

I'm saying if a NFL player is caught bankrolling a dog fighting ring, he might just get suspended from the National football league...

BTW, the little league umpire is not a part of the MLB

Not one of your smarter posts

But as you said the IFBB Amatuers is not part of the IFBB Pros. Yet the Professional side got involved with what Milos did.

And by the way. Vick got suspended because he broke a "Decency Clause" that is in NFL contracts. See that is what separates BB from any real sport or organization. The NFL and others uphold their Rules and Ethics clauses as much as possible. BB does not. Big difference and one that is a big reason major sponsors, and networks and the general public does not take BB seriously. Oh, by the way when his suspension was over he signed a new contract to play. Milos has not.

Not one of your smarters posts either

Chick · « **Reply #65 on:** August 23, 2009, 09:46:30 AM »

Quote from: noworries on August 23, 2009, 09:05:35 AM

But as you said the IFBB Amatuers is not part of the IFBB Pros. Yet the Professional side got involved with what Milos did.

And by the way. Vick got suspended because he broke a "Decency Clause" that is in NFL contracts. See that is what separates BB from any real sport or organization. The NFL and others uphold their Rules and Ethics clauses as much as possible. BB does not. Big difference and one that is a big reason major sponsors, and networks and the general public does not take BB seriously. Oh, by the way when his suspension was over he signed a new contract to play. Milos has not.

Not one of your smarters posts either

Let me explain this a little more simple for ya.....If a major league player in the AL were to accuse a umpire of fixing games in the NL, he might still be accountable for his accusations and suspended from the league....even though the player is from the other league, they're still under the MLB umbrella

The biggest difference which you failed to bring up...is that unlike the MLB, NFL, etc....IFBB pros are not paid by the IFBB....whether or not BB (in you opinion) is taken seriously or not, has nothing to do with the situation of Milos suspention, etc..

lax · « **Reply #66 on:** August 23, 2009, 09:54:54 AM »

Quote from: bigdumbbell on August 21, 2009, 06:31:11 PM

dude is always right lol

I have never seen chick aquiesce to any point, whatsoever

noworries · « **Reply #67 on:** August 23, 2009, 10:23:50 AM »

Quote from: Chick on August 23, 2009, 09:46:30 AM

Let me explain this a little more simple for ya.....If a major league player in the AL were to accuse a umpire of fixing games in the NL, he might still be accountable for his accusations and suspended from the league....even though the player is from the other league, they're still under the MLB umbrella

The biggest difference which you failed to bring up...is that unlike the MLB, NFL, etc....IFBB pros are not paid by the IFBB....whether or not BB (in you opinion) is taken seriously or not, has nothing to do with the situation of Milos suspention, etc..

But the IFBB Pro and IFBB Amatuer are different you said. When something goes down in the Amatuer division you always say it doesn't concern you cause it is the IFBB Amatuer. But, an IFBB Pro did something regarding the IFBB Amatuer and all of a sudden the Pro division gets involved and suspends Milos. Face it Chic even your bullshit sidestepping can't hide the fact you are wrong. But I am sure you will keep trying. And what the hell does not being paid by the IFBB have to do with anything. Dude you are running out of excuses so bad now you are making up shit. I just hope you don't say something like "what you fail to see is that IFBB Pros wear banana hammocks and MLB players wear sliding pants." Holy Shit you are getting worse!

Oh by the way I highly doubt if a MLB player accuses an umpire for anything he wouldn't get suspended for it.

Chick · « **Reply #68 on:** August 23, 2009, 10:52:39 AM »

Quote from: noworries on August 23, 2009, 10:23:50 AM

But the IFBB Pro and IFBB Amatuer are different you said. When something goes down in the Amatuer division you always say it doesn't concern you cause it is the IFBB Amatuer. But, an IFBB Pro did something regarding the IFBB Amatuer and all of a sudden the Pro division gets involved and suspends Milos. Face it Chic even your bullshit sidestepping can't hide the fact you are wrong. But I am sure you will keep trying. And what the hell does not being paid by the IFBB have to do with anything. Dude you are running out of excuses so bad now you are making up shit. I just hope you don't say something like "what you fail to see is that IFBB Pros wear banana hammocks and MLB players wear sliding pants." Holy Shit you are getting worse!

Oh by the way I highly doubt if a MLB player accuses an umpire for anything he wouldn't get suspended for it.

An IFBB official is an official...as I've stated numerous times now....the fact that you cant comprehend it, doesn't make it any less truthful. The rules dont distinquish betwee IFBB pro/ amateur officials.

Cant dumb it down any more for you.

I cant be right or wrong on the matter....I just spelled out the facts for you. I took no stance either way on the matter

Mr Nobody · « **Reply #69 on:** August 23, 2009, 11:21:23 AM »

So Chick whats wrong with Milos calling out a scumbag? From what you say its just the way he did it? Whats this world coming to?

noworries · « **Reply #70 on:** August 23, 2009, 11:52:33 AM »

Quote from: Chick on August 23, 2009, 10:52:39 AM

An IFBB official is an official...as I've stated numerous times now....the fact that you cant comprehend it, doesn't make it any less truthful. The rules dont distinquish betwee IFBB pro/ amateur officials.

Cant dumb it down any more for you.

I cant be right or wrong on the matter....I just spelled out the facts for you. I took no stance either way on the matter

I give up. It s like arguing with someone with Autism. You see only what ~~you want~~ the IFBB wants you to see. Simple FACT is what Milos did what was right and what the IFBB did to him was wrong. You didn't support him as a rep, you supported the IFBB and did exactly wht they told you to do.

Plain and simple and I can't dumb it down for you anymore.

Mr.1derful · « **Reply #71 on:** August 23, 2009, 04:08:37 PM »

While I am glad for Milos that he has been vindicated somewhat, being that what he alleged has apparently turned out to be true. However, in going forward with allegations of this nature, one must follow a certain protocol.

People can opine that Milos would have received the same treatment regardless, but we really can't know that for sure. At one time or another, we've seen pro athletes in different sports federations receiving suspensions for airing complaints or allegations in a public way. This isn't terribly different. Going through proper channels to address the situation is par for the course in most sports leagues, regardless of the possible validity of the claims being brought forth. Unfortunately, by going about things as he did, and despite how one may even admire some of the fortitude in doing so, Milos has lost a great deal as a result. Upsetting, I'm sure, when one is trying to do the right thing, but not entirely hard to understand considering the chosen method of doing so.

Chick · « **Reply #72 on:** August 23, 2009, 04:57:29 PM »

Quote from: Mr.1derful on August 23, 2009, 04:08:37 PM

While I am glad for Milos that he has been vindicated somewhat, being that what he alleged has apparently turned out to be true. However, in going forward with allegations of this nature, one must follow a certain protocol.

People can opine that Milos would have received the same treatment regardless, but we really can't know that for sure. At one time or another, we've seen pro athletes in different sports federations receiving suspensions for airing complaints or allegations in a public way. This isn't terribly different. Going through proper channels to address the situation is par for the course in most sports leagues, regardless of the possible validity of the claims being brought forth. Unfortunately, by going about things as he did, and despite how one may even admire some of the fortitude in doing so, Milos has lost a great deal as a result. Upsetting, I'm sure, when one is trying to do the right thing, but not entirely hard to understand considering the chosen method of doing so.

You implying logic here...they'll never catch on

chaos · « **Reply #73 on:** August 23, 2009, 05:05:11 PM »

Quote from: Mr.1derful on August 23, 2009, 04:08:37 PM

While I am glad for Milos that he has been vindicated somewhat, being that what he alleged has apparently turned out to be true. However, in going forward with allegations of this nature, one must follow a certain protocol.

People can opine that Milos would have received the same treatment regardless, but we really can't know that for sure. At one time or another, we've seen pro athletes in different sports federations receiving suspensions for airing complaints or allegations in a public way. This isn't terribly different. Going through proper channels to address the situation is par for the course in most sports leagues, regardless of the possible validity of the claims being brought forth. Unfortunately, by going about things as he did, and despite how one may even admire some of the fortitude in doing so, Milos has lost a great deal as a result. Upsetting, I'm sure, when one is trying to do the right thing, but not entirely hard to understand considering the chosen method of doing so.

hahahahahahahahaaaaaa

Too easy............

Hi Bob!!

Big_Tymer · « **Reply #74 on:** August 23, 2009, 07:52:14 PM »

Milos all of getbig is behind you. ifbb officials are such f.aggots