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If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« on: September 16, 2009, 04:51:20 AM »
My vote: yes
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 05:01:04 AM »
Haha - not in a million years.

Against the likes of David Henry and Flex Lewis he wouldn't have a cat in hell's chance.
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 05:06:15 AM »
Quote from: BigJ on September 16, 2009, 05:01:04 AM
Haha - not in a million years.

Against the likes of David Henry and Flex Lewis he wouldn't have a cat in hell's chance.

Sad but true.
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 05:07:32 AM »
Quote from: BigJ on September 16, 2009, 05:01:04 AM
Haha - not in a million years.

Against the likes of David Henry and Flex Lewis he wouldn't have a cat in hell's chance.

Flex Lewis is 'better' than Frank Zane? I'm still scratching my head over that one.
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 05:10:54 AM »
Quote from: Determinator on September 16, 2009, 05:07:32 AM
Flex Lewis is 'better' than Frank Zane? I'm still scratching my head over that one.

Flex Lewis is bigger and more shapely at that weight than Frank Zane could ever be. Zane only ever had great conditioning, (which is fine) but this is bodybuilding - no-one wants to see a 180lb physique standing onstage.

If competing in his late 20's/early 30's today, Frank Zane wouldn't even qualify for his pro card.
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 05:15:43 AM »
Quote from: BigJ on September 16, 2009, 05:10:54 AM
Flex Lewis is bigger and more shapely at that weight than Frank Zane could ever be. Zane only ever had great conditioning, (which is fine) but this is bodybuilding - no-one wants to see a 180lb physique standing onstage.

If competing in his late 20's/early 30's today, Frank Zane wouldn't even qualify for his pro card.

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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 05:41:42 AM »
A 90% David Henry will smoke Zane. Different Eras.............Zane doesn't even look like a "bodybuilder" for today's standards.
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 05:51:52 AM »
You cant even compare , if zane was competing today you can bet he would be carrying more muscle , not a bloated monster more but a good 20 -30 pounds more.
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 05:59:46 AM »
Quote from: WillGrant on September 16, 2009, 05:51:52 AM
You cant even compare , if zane was competing today you can bet he would be carrying more muscle , not a bloated monster more but a good 20 -30 pounds more.

LOL...well im sure all the other competitors really appreciated Frank holding back
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 06:02:24 AM »
Quote from: Chick on September 16, 2009, 05:59:46 AM
LOL...well im sure all the other competitors really appreciated Frank holding back

Chick how would you rate Frank Zane as a bodybuilder?
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 06:02:57 AM »
all pros from Zane's day smoke the big gutted, shapeless grotesques of today
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 06:04:27 AM »
Quote from: lax on September 16, 2009, 06:02:57 AM
all pros from Zane's day smoke the big gutted, shapeless grotesques of today

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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 06:05:46 AM »
Quote from: Chick on September 16, 2009, 05:59:46 AM
LOL...well im sure all the other competitors really appreciated Frank holding back

Do you feel he achived his max potential? As far as aesthetic size goes...
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2009, 06:06:24 AM »
Quote from: Chick on September 16, 2009, 05:59:46 AM
LOL...well im sure all the other competitors really appreciated Frank holding back

Chick, I think WG means that Zane would have access to far crazier drugs than back in his day
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 06:07:18 AM »
Quote from: Chick on September 16, 2009, 05:59:46 AM
LOL...well im sure all the other competitors really appreciated Frank holding back
Mass monsters ruined this "sport" Chick..Bodybuilding was formed on The three S's Size , Shape and Symetery..you as athletes rep should be pushing more for this , it would stop alot of the dangerous pratices that are currently in practice, what these guys of today have to do just to get a look in is down right disgusting
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2009, 06:08:04 AM »
Quote from: lax on September 16, 2009, 06:06:24 AM
Chick, I think WG means that Zane would have access to far crazier drugs than back in his day
Yup  ;) But zane being zane would never lose sight of condition wins , but he would be bigger doing away with the "swimmers build" tag he seems to have gathered..zane with condition and an extra 20-30 pounds would look amazing.
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2009, 06:08:38 AM »
Quote from: lax on September 16, 2009, 06:02:57 AM
all pros from Zane's day smoke the big gutted, shapeless grotesques of today
x3 million.. 8)
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2009, 06:18:41 AM »
Quote from: Schmoe Buster on September 16, 2009, 06:02:24 AM
Chick how would you rate Frank Zane as a bodybuilder?

Winning 3 Olympia's pretty much sums it up...one of the best
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2009, 06:19:33 AM »
Not in the Micheal Phelps era of swimmers
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2009, 06:22:25 AM »
Quote from: lax on September 16, 2009, 06:06:24 AM
Chick, I think WG means that Zane would have access to far crazier drugs than back in his day

Trust me, they had access to plenty....all real, and a time when no one gave a shit.  Zane was never one of the bigger guys, and wouldnt have been with todays stuff.  There is a reason he was nicknamed the Chemist
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2009, 06:22:32 AM »
everybody wants lo be livin the dream, there is more competition today, more competitors willing to do things competitors of earlier eras wouldn't even have considered

all drugs
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2009, 06:24:59 AM »
Quote from: Bobby on September 16, 2009, 06:22:32 AM
everybody wants lo be livin the dream, there is more competition today, more competitors willing to do things competitors of earlier eras wouldn't even have considered

all drugs

They considered everything and anything that was available to them....as if there was some sort of moral compass with these guys...LOL
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2009, 06:26:33 AM »
Quote from: Chick on September 16, 2009, 06:22:25 AM
Trust me, they had access to plenty....all real, and a time when no one gave a shit.  Zane was never one of the bigger guys, and wouldn't have been with todays stuff.  There is a reason he was nicknamed the Chemist

there is contention as to why he was named 'Chemist'

1) he was VG with useage of vitamins/nutrients

2) he was nonpareil at using aas

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the stuff was real, noone cared

he may not have been biggest of bb's today, but bigger than 185-190 at which he won his O's
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2009, 06:27:45 AM »
Quote from: Chick on September 16, 2009, 06:24:59 AM
They considered everything and anything that was available to them....as if there was some sort of moral compass with these guys...LOL

are you saying juice is immoral? :D
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Re: If around today, and at age 30-ish, would Frank Zane own the 202 division?
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2009, 06:28:06 AM »
Quote from: BigJ on September 16, 2009, 05:01:04 AM
Haha - not in a million years.

Against the likes of David Henry and Flex Lewis he wouldn't have a cat in hell's chance.

Ditto.
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