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[pellius]

those?

How many years ago were those taken? It's one thing to get in shape. It's quite another to stay in shape. Your lack of discipline sickens me.

[Cleanest Natural]

How many years ago were those taken? It's one thing to get in shape. It's quite another to stay in shape. Your lack of discipline sickens me.

2 years ago. my lack of discipline ??

or maybe I don't give a fuck about being ripped or buff... in the past 7-8 years I never worked out for more than 2-3 months at a pop. what you see there I can do in exactly 7-8 weeks and absolutely no drugs or fatburners.

unlike you :

[dustin]

I'd rather look like an out of shape Sev than.... whatever pellius is lookin' like these days. That GH gut is brutal and that skin.... Jesus....

Sorry, man. Kudos on the conditioning but that skin looks fucking nasty. No two ways about it. Can't beat around the bush. Hide from the sun for the next 12 months. It'll do you some good.

[UpTheDosage]

It's pretty hilarious. It reminds me of chicks who refuse to lift weights because they think they're going to explode with muscle. As if people without a myostatin deficiency actually run into that problem. I think most bodybuilders would love to have that problem. I know I would!

OMG i know . . when i used to be a personal trainer (and then i finally grew up and realized i needed to get a real job) most of my clients were women every single one them thought they would get fucking huge from doing a few sets of any type of lifting.

And I wasn't saying it wouldn't be noticeable to a "trained bodybuilding schmoe eye" that someone is juicing, but the general public is FUCKING CLUELESS as to who is on steroids. And every once in a while you will have those people that juice their brains out and still look like shit and nobody would ever know they even worked out. 

[pellius]

2 years ago. my lack of discipline ??

or maybe I don't give a fuck about being ripped or buff... in the past 7-8 years I never worked out for more than 2-3 months at a pop. what you see there I can do in exactly 7-8 weeks and absolutely no drugs or fatburners.
 

OK. That I can get. You finally made a reasonable and sensible post. I retract my "my lack of discipline" comment.

[pellius]

I'd rather look like an out of shape Sev than.... whatever pellius is lookin' like these days. That GH gut is brutal and that skin.... Jesus....

Sorry, man. Kudos on the conditioning but that skin looks fucking nasty. No two ways about it. Can't beat around the bush. Hide from the sun for the next 12 months. It'll do you some good.

God, one defective bottle of Pro Tan and I'm tarnished for life. And what's with the GH gut? I've never used GH in my life (but wish I could). I participate in a contact sport and got an umbilical hernia that I let go for about 9 months (I didn't know what it was and it was only mildly painful). It's only when people started commenting that it looked like a thumb was coming out of my navel and my belly started to distend that I got it fixed.

What does your waist line look like?

[dustin]

God, one defective bottle of Pro Tan and I'm tarnished for life. And what's with the GH gut? I've never used GH in my life (but wish I could). I participate in a contact sport and got an umbilical hernia that I let go for about 9 months (I didn't know what it was and it was only mildly painful). It's only when people started commenting that it looked like a thumb was coming out of my navel and my belly started to distend that I got it fixed.

What does your waist line look like?

You mentioned your geographic location being the cause of your  skin in another thread? Hmm...

Sorry to hear about the hernia though. With your sun roasted skin and pertruding stomach it looks like the prototypical GH gut. Hopefully corrective surgery will aid. And I hope that tans worn off lol

My waistlines more trim than it's been in years. It's 2:30am and I just finished an hour of cardio. In 8 hours I'll bang out another one and then workout before work.

Still got a ways to go. Getting into contest condition or at least the two- three-weeks out look. I want to hold conditioning there for a bit. Let cortisol levelsand other catabolic hormones dissipate then lean bulk. Never going to lose my abs again. Realized that you can bulk but not look like a slob in the process. 

[pellius]

You mentioned your geographic location being the cause of your  skin in another thread? Hmm...

Sorry to hear about the hernia though. With your sun roasted skin and pertruding stomach it looks like the prototypical GH gut. Hopefully corrective surgery will aid. And I hope that tans worn off lol

My waistlines more trim than it's been in years. It's 2:30am and I just finished an hour of cardio. In 8 hours I'll bang out another one and then workout before work.

Still got a ways to go. Getting into contest condition or at least the two- three-weeks out look. I want to hold conditioning there for a bit. Let cortisol levelsand other catabolic hormones dissipate then lean bulk. Never going to lose my abs again. Realized that you can bulk but not look like a slob in the process.  

Not necessarily geographical location (Hawaii) but rather life style. I'm out in the sun a lot. When those pics were taken I had spent all day at the beach the previous day (about a good 6 hours of tropical sun light). Also, it was a hot day and I sweat a lot and had to keep toweling off. I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it but someone asked if I was using tanning oil. Also, it could be just camera and lighting. If you look at this picture, taken only minutes before, I'm not so dark. Also, you may notice that when I stand naturally and relax I kind of keep my shoulders back and chest out. It's not that I'm trying to be cocky or pick a fight but I also have what is called "sway back" ( not sure if you've ever heard of that) where your spine is curved more than normal (I've had back problems since I was in high school when I reached my full height 6'2" though now I've loss a half an inch due to the disk compressing). Anyway, the bad posture doesn't help with the GH gut look but you can see the difference in skin tone from this picture and the other one where I look much darker (and yes, Sevas, I know I'm on the skinny side by GetBig standards. But I competed for years in tournament Jiu-Jitsu in 187 lb class. I'd rather be a big light heavy than a small heavy weight. I never said I was a bodybuilder which is why I was so reluctant to post pics).

 

[Cleanest Natural]

is this the contact sport you competed in for so many years ?

[pellius]

I don't give a fuck about your oppinion honestly lizard man. The only thing you could retract is that huge dildo called "illusion of looking decent" out of your rectum.

The difference between me and you is astronomical. Yes I am cocky especially with desilusional dimwitted bumfucks such as yourself.

Remember when you were complaining a year or more back that you were raided by the feds for steroids and other " substances " ?

remember the feds finding 13 shotguns in your apartament ?

remember how you posted here like a crybaby that you were flat broke and had no money ?

remember when I started a thread about pledging money from getbiggers to help you out of your misery because you sounded so sad and pathetic crying non stop about how you don't even have rent and will be homeless ?

remember I was also the first to offer you 50 $ and encouraged others to give as well ?

remember when you were posting that you were so depressed your apartament was a huge mess and the floor was filled with garbage ?

remember when you said you had to dig a trail in the trash on the floor to finally go get a shower after considerable time dwelling in your misery ?

well, that combined with the rest of your posts until today got me to this conclusion

YOU ARE A SAD PATHETIC 50 YO LOSER WHO NOT ONLY IS USELESS AND LOOKS LIKE ABSOLUTE SHITE BUT HAS THE BALLS TO BRAG ABOUT IT

go fucking do something with your life and stop being pathetic  you sad creepy preggo roided bum.

I'm sensing anger. And no I don't remember your list. And, at least of today, I am in much better shape than you. You may not like my look but functional ability and athletic performance far exceeds yours. Toe to toe you wouldn't last 45 seconds with me.

You're come across as a slimey, low life, Euro thrash. What kind of creep constantly post pics of himself and the hook nose skanks that he bangs, along with your dance performances, rapping ability, extensive collection of gay porn and whatever else you feel the need to share? You're desperate attempts and need for validity and approval on a bodybuilding message board, in addition to your weird beliefs, belies a troubling insecurity and a peculating perversion. You'll need more than that gaudy magic necklace of yours.

Please don't come here, creep. We need more guys like Okami rather ghoulish sleaze bags like you.
  

[pellius]

And you keep accusing me of being "roided out" when you, recently, actually posted a vid of you downing your naps. What kind of creep would do that? And why?

What a sleaze ball with serious issues.

And, though I had a tough time when I got laid off my aerospace job in California things have improve tremendously. I'm having a great life here in Hawaii. Actually content and happy. I can see why you are so desperate to get out of the third world shit hole that you live in. 

[pellius]

What was that again? I look horrible and I'm delusional? And you post something like this?

Douche bag says what?

[Cleanest Natural]

 

3 post meltdown from a 60 yo cagefighter

toe to toe ?

sorry but I do not hit the elderly

[emn1964]

I don't give a fuck about your oppinion honestly lizard man. The only thing you could retract is that huge dildo called "illusion of looking decent" out of your rectum.

The difference between me and you is astronomical. Yes I am cocky especially with desilusional dimwitted bumfucks such as yourself.

Remember when you were complaining a year or more back that you were raided by the feds for steroids and other " substances " ?

remember the feds finding 13 shotguns in your apartament ?

remember how you posted here like a crybaby that you were flat broke and had no money ?

remember when I started a thread about pledging money from getbiggers to help you out of your misery because you sounded so sad and pathetic crying non stop about how you don't even have rent and will be homeless ?

remember I was also the first to offer you 50 $ and encouraged others to give as well ?

remember when you were posting that you were so depressed your apartament was a huge mess and the floor was filled with garbage ?

remember when you said you had to dig a trail in the trash on the floor to finally go get a shower after considerable time dwelling in your misery ?

well, that combined with the rest of your posts until today got me to this conclusion

YOU ARE A SAD PATHETIC 50 YO LOSER WHO NOT ONLY IS USELESS AND LOOKS LIKE ABSOLUTE SHITE BUT HAS THE BALLS TO BRAG ABOUT IT

go fucking do something with your life and stop being pathetic  you sad creepy preggo roided bum.

fuck, that's right Sev, Pellius was the guy that claimed to have been busted for steroids!  I claimed bullshit back then and still claiming bullshit.  Damn Sev, you gypsies don't forget...

[Captain Equipoise]

Getting some...

[pellius]

Oh god, listen to you guys. The whole point of that posts was as a warning to personal users that you are not safe if you are sloppy and stupid and flaunt the law. I started HRT after I turned 40 yrs under an endocrinologists. This was covered by my insurance. After I got laid off from Raytheon Missile Systems I lost that coverage. I ordered off the net. When an order got seized I simply ignored it and the supplier resent. I also place another concurrent order with another supplier just in case the other one got seized. I didn't believe this idea that your address was flagged. I was wrong. Now I have another two seizures in addition to the first one. That's flaunting the law. But I felt that the most that will happen was that I would just be out of the money. I also had a shit load of firearms that I had accumulated from years of being a competitive shooter and being a hunter. It was a hobby that I enjoyed and even reloaded and made my own ammunition on a Dillion Precision 550. Another hobby I enjoyed.

When I moved to Hawaii I didn't re-register those guns, many which are now illegal and are considered assault weapons. Since they were bought legally in California I really didn't know I had to register them again and turn in the others that were not legal in Hawaii. The seizure alerted LE and when it becomes a matter of guns and weapons they don't know who they are dealing with. Hence the raid.

After the interrogation they pretty much knew I was no criminal and let me go that day without having to post bail. It never went to trial. I never had to hire a lawyer. And the charges were dropped. I'm still here, right?

Again the whole point of the posts was as a warning to those who do order steroids over the net that just because you are a personal user, if you are sloppy, if you spit in the face of LE and just ignore their warnings then they will get you. At this point in time LE has a real hard on for anabolics, HGH and the like. I don't get it but it is what it is.

I consider this just another example of our myopic drug laws and a horrendous waste of scarce resources. Hawaii is laying off public employees and requiring teachers to take force furloughs. Yet, they have the money to send a SWAT team for a $190 order for testosterone.

[Captain Equipoise]

Which assault rifles were you in possession of ? AR-15's ? shit like that?

[emn1964]

Oh god, listen to you guys. The whole point of that posts was as a warning to personal users that you are not safe if you are sloppy and stupid and flaunt the law. I started HRT after I turned 40 yrs under an endocrinologists. This was covered by my insurance. After I got laid off from Raytheon Missile Systems I lost that coverage. I ordered off the net. When an order got seized I simply ignored it and the supplier resent. I also place another concurrent order with another supplier just in case the other one got seized. I didn't believe this idea that your address was flagged. I was wrong. Now I have another two seizures in addition to the first one. That's flaunting the law. But I felt that the most that will happen was that I would just be out of the money. I also had a shit load of firearms that I had accumulated from years of being a competitive shooter and being a hunter. It was a hobby that I enjoyed and even reloaded and made my own ammunition on a Dillion Precision 550. Another hobby I enjoyed.

When I moved to Hawaii I didn't re-register those guns, many which are now illegal and are considered assault weapons. Since they were bought legally in California I really didn't know I had to register them again and turn in the others that were not legal in Hawaii. The seizure alerted LE and when it becomes a matter of guns and weapons they don't know who they are dealing with. Hence the raid.

After the interrogation they pretty much knew I was no criminal and let me go that day without having to post bail. It never went to trial. I never had to hire a lawyer. And the charges were dropped. I'm still here, right?

Again the whole point of the posts was as a warning to those who do order steroids over the net that just because you are a personal user, if you are sloppy, if you spit in the face of LE and just ignore their warnings then they will get you. At this point in time LE has a real hard on for anabolics, HGH and the like. I don't get it but it is what it is.

I consider this just another example of our myopic drug laws and a horrendous waste of scarce resources. Hawaii is laying off public employees and requiring teachers to take force furloughs. Yet, they have the money to send a SWAT team for a $190 order for testosterone.

calling bullshit on your story.  How did a seizure letter alert LE that you had guns in your possession?  I mean you are claiming that the reason for the SWAT team raid was weapons.  But the police didn't know you had weapons just from the seizure letter.  Story sounds like utter bullshit.

[pellius]

Which assault rifles were you in possession of ? AR-15's ? shit like that?

I don't think people realize the difference between civilian type weapons and military type. The AR-15 shoots a .223 caliber ONLY in semi-automatic mode. Meaning, I shot for each trigger pull. The military version, the M-16 has the additional option of three burst mode or fully automatic.

Functionally, there is no difference between the AR-15 and the Ruger Mini-14. They both shoot the same round in semi-automatic mode but one just "looks" more lethal than the other whereas in actuality they will both blow your brains out with equal aplomb.

[pellius]

calling bullshit on your story.  How did a seizure letter alert LE that you had guns in your possession?  I mean you are claiming that the reason for the SWAT team raid was weapons.  But the police didn't know you had weapons just from the seizure letter.  Story sounds like utter bullshit.

Sir, it doesn't matter to me if you believe me or not. I don't know why you would think I would just make this up out of the blue. I will assure you of this, when they start investigating you it doesn't take much to know everything about you. My firearms purchases were a matter of record. I got a controlled delivery because of the seizures. Why they came with a SWAT team I cannot concretely explain. I'm just speculating.

But if you don't believe me you don't believe me. That pretty much puts an end to the discussion.

[Captain Equipoise]

I don't think people realize the difference between civilian type weapons and military type. The AR-15 shoots a .223 caliber ONLY in semi-automatic mode. Meaning, I shot for each trigger pull. The military version, the M-16 has the additional option of three burst mode or fully automatic.

Functionally, there is no difference between the AR-15 and the Ruger Mini-14. They both shoot the same round in semi-automatic mode but one just "looks" more lethal than the other whereas in actuality they will both blow your brains out with equal aplomb.

1) You still didn't answer my question
2) You hit the nail on the head with your opening statement, the reason it's considered an assault rifle is a) because it shoots 3 round bursts and full auto WHICH the civilian version does NOT and b) because of the magazine capacity of the military version while the civilian version is restricted to 5 (this depends on the gun as well)

[pellius]

Which assault rifles were you in possession of ? AR-15's ? shit like that?

Another example is a rifle I had called a MAK-90. It was a semi automatic version of the AK-47. When I bought mine it had a pistol grip. That is illegal. If I had gotten one with a "thumb hole stock" meaning that they just connect the pistol grip to the stock so you just have this hole to put your thumb through for your pistol grip that would be legal. It changes nothing other than appearance. A thumb hole grip doesn't look as bad as a pistol grip but it shoots the exact same bullet in the exact same way.

[pellius]

1) You still didn't answer my question
2) You hit the nail on the head with your opening statement, the reason it's considered an assault rifle is a) because it shoots 3 round bursts and full auto WHICH the civilian version does NOT and b) because of the magazine capacity of the military version while the civilian version is restricted to 5 (this depends on the gun as well)

I'm sorry, what question didn't I answer? You're right about magazine capacity but that only applies, at least at the time, to the firearm when you buy it. There were many after market magazines that had a higher capacity. The magazines were illegal but the gun itself wouldn't be (assuming it was legal in the first place).

[Captain Equipoise]

I'm sorry, what question didn't I answer? You're right about magazine capacity but that only applies, at least at the time, to the firearm when you buy it. There were many after market magazines that had a higher capacity. The magazines were illegal but the gun itself wouldn't be (assuming it was legal in the first place).

The question was what firearms you had and what was seized and why? if you don't feel like disclosing specifics I understand.

[pellius]

The question was what firearms you had and what was seized and why? if you don't feel like disclosing specifics I understand.

Well, I had a bunch and I'd really have to sit down and take stock of all the guns that I possessed. A lot was also stored at my uncles house because the place I was staying at at the time was very small.

But they simply took them all, legal and illegal. The ones that were illegal were the AR, Mak-90, SKS, some Russian one that I forget the name of. There may have been others I can't be sure because of different state laws. I had a sweet Benelli that they took. My sentimental favorite the Ruger P-89 (cheap but sturdy gun that I would just shoot the crap out of and never clean. They took my carry gun the Glock 19. I had some customized 1911 that I use for competition.

Crap man, you're making me cry. Now, I'm angry. Those fascist! I want my guns back!! They were my pride and joy.