Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize

[Skip8282]

Honestly, the best thing would have been if everyone just forgot about 9/11.

Yeah, because then they would have left us alone.  

[Soul Crusher]

No, don't you realize that the more time the US spends chasing this ghost called Bin Laden the more the terrorists have gained?

The terrorists have already won by country miles. All they needed was a couple of religious extremists and a handful of carpet knives and they single handedly changed the global political scene for a long time to come.

Every time you think it's a hassle to go through airport security checks, they've won. Every time billions of tax dollars are spent on extra homeland security, they've won. Every time 9/11 has been used for cheap political purposes, they've won. Every time the US starts a war because of this, they've won.

Honestly, the best thing would have been if everyone just forgot about 9/11.

[garebear]

No, don't you realize that the more time the US spends chasing this ghost called Bin Laden the more the terrorists have gained?

The terrorists have already won by country miles. All they needed was a couple of religious extremists and a handful of carpet knives and they single handedly changed the global political scene for a long time to come.

Every time you think it's a hassle to go through airport security checks, they've won. Every time billions of tax dollars are spent on extra homeland security, they've won. Every time 9/11 has been used for cheap political purposes, they've won. Every time the US starts a war because of this, they've won.

Honestly, the best thing would have been if everyone just forgot about 9/11.

Good plan. Do you have Down Syndrome?

[shootfighter1]

Wow, this is pretty shocking.  Even many Obama supporters have to be wondering why.  He really hasn't done that much outside of a few speeches after being elected.  There just isn't enough substance there.  Perhaps they like his overall tone?  I don't know man, this is a bit creepy...just like it was when the media were jumping all over him during the campaign.

[tonymctones]

He's only been there for 9 months and is already on a downward trajectory.  For his own sake, the best thing he could do is reject this award.  

It really is the best thing he can do

mark my words if he accepts it there will be no surge in afghanistan 

[shootfighter1]

It's like they have chosen him based on potential or maybe they see him as more of a man of the world rather than a man of the U.S.
I truely believe that Obama and others on the far left are much more concerned with the world than their own country.

[Soul Crusher]

It's like they have chosen him based on potential or maybe they see him as more of a man of the world rather than a man of the U.S.
I truely believe that Obama and others on the far left are much more concerned with the world than their own country.

I think this has more to do with the fact that they can give it to him now before he does so much damage as to never warrant it in the future. 

[AE]

The Drugster - Defacto leader of the GOP - The epitome of conservative a$$wipe

[lovemonkey]

Yeah, because then they would have left us alone.  

Good plan. Do you have Down Syndrome?

Hahaha, yes the war against terror has been so successful  

If you look beyond "revenge"... is it worth it? I remember reading some time ago about the new security systems they've implemented in the american airports where they often interrogate you, take fingerprints and also check your luggage by hand etc. Being paranoid dicks in general. Apparently, after several years since its inception they haven't caught a single "terrorist". The terrorists that have been caught plotting terrible deeds have had surveillance on them for a long time prior, kinda like how it used to be before 9/11.

Don't you realize that this paranoid hunt for terrorists is quite the self-owning? 3k people died at the WTC and I can imagine revenge would be sweet for you guys but at what cost? The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't exactly helped in terms of eliminating threats, rather the opposite. And meanwhile it's costing the US enormous amounts of tax dollars and thousands of lives. Where is the trial being held for Bin Laden right now? Oh snap that's right, he hasn't been caught. But hey it has only been EIGHT years since the attack 

[Soul Crusher]

The Drugster - Defacto leader of the GOP - The epitome of conservative a$$wipe

[Hedgehog]

I think this has more to do with the fact that they can give it to him now before he does so much damage as to never warrant it in the future. 

LMFAO...

Or if they give him the award now, he will have to be a peacemaker.

Trying to put the pressure on.

I don't know, just looks weird.

But hey.

Maybe it's just us that doesn't grab how brilliant this Obama guy really is.

I mean, we're all talking about him 24/7. The media won't ever stop discussing him.

He's like this super phenomenon.

It's like when Kennedy hit the stages, I'd imagine.

The Obama generation!

[headhuntersix]

For what..what has he done..he's done nothing. NOTHING

[Soul Crusher]

LMFAO...

Or if they give him the award now, he will have to be a peacemaker.

Trying to put the pressure on.

I don't know, just looks weird.

But hey.

Maybe it's just us that doesn't grab how brilliant this Obama guy really is.

I mean, we're all talking about him 24/7. The media won't ever stop discussing him.

He's like this super phenomenon.

It's like when Kennedy hit the stages, I'd imagine.

The Obama generation!

More like this Hedge. 

[headhuntersix]

Hahaha, yes the war against terror has been so successful  

If you look beyond "revenge"... is it worth it? I remember reading some time ago about the new security systems they've implemented in the american airports where they often interrogate you, take fingerprints and also check your luggage by hand etc. Being paranoid dicks in general. Apparently, after several years since its inception they haven't caught a single "terrorist". The terrorists that have been caught plotting terrible deeds have had surveillance on them for a long time prior, kinda like how it used to be before 9/11.

Don't you realize that this paranoid hunt for terrorists is quite the self-owning? 3k people died at the WTC and I can imagine revenge would be sweet for you guys but at what cost? The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't exactly helped in terms of eliminating threats, rather the opposite. And meanwhile it's costing the US enormous amounts of tax dollars and thousands of lives. Where is the trial being held for Bin Laden right now? Oh snap that's right, he hasn't been caught. But hey it has only been EIGHT years since the attack 

Wow I guess ur another uninformed idiot...welcvome to the board. AQ is pretty much worthless now in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Iraq was the grave yard of AQ..their best and brightest are dead..they flocked there ands we stomped them. Whats left went back to Afghanistan and found the Taliban to be not so friendly this time around. They're trying to go back and fight in Africa..we'll see how that works out. These people hate us, they hate the West, they don't stop...

[Skip8282]

I remember reading some time ago about the new security systems they've implemented in the american airports where they often interrogate you, take fingerprints and also check your luggage by hand etc. Being paranoid dicks in general. Apparently, after several years since its inception they haven't caught a single "terrorist".

Airport security is not there to "catch" terrorists in the act per se.  It's there as a proactive approach to hopefully PREVENT terrorism.  Just because there are holes in the system doesn't mean you just stop working towards prevention.

The terrorists that have been caught plotting terrible deeds have had surveillance on them for a long time prior, kinda like how it used to be before 9/11.

And?  That approach alone obviously did not help prevent 9/11.

Forgetting 9/11 ever happened suggests we should not learn from our mistakes.  

[lovemonkey]

Wow I guess ur another uninformed idiot...welcvome to the board. AQ is pretty much worthless now in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Iraq was the grave yard of AQ..their best and brightest are dead..they flocked there ands we stomped them. Whats left went back to Afghanistan and found the Taliban to be not so friendly this time around. They're trying to go back and fight in Africa..we'll see how that works out. These people hate us, they hate the West, they don't stop...

And how many lives and tax dollars did this cost America?

[tonymctones]

Hahaha, yes the war against terror has been so successful  

If you look beyond "revenge"... is it worth it? I remember reading some time ago about the new security systems they've implemented in the american airports where they often interrogate you, take fingerprints and also check your luggage by hand etc. Being paranoid dicks in general. Apparently, after several years since its inception they haven't caught a single "terrorist". The terrorists that have been caught plotting terrible deeds have had surveillance on them for a long time prior, kinda like how it used to be before 9/11.

Don't you realize that this paranoid hunt for terrorists is quite the self-owning? 3k people died at the WTC and I can imagine revenge would be sweet for you guys but at what cost? The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan hasn't exactly helped in terms of eliminating threats, rather the opposite.

try educating yourself instead of listening to code pink moron there have been thwarts at airports and on planes after 9/11

your thoughts are we should have no extra precautions?  

I think we have eliminated plenty of threats in iraq and afghanistan how many jihadist have been cleansed of this earth?

[lovemonkey]

Airport security is not there to "catch" terrorists in the act per se.  It's there as a proactive approach to hopefully PREVENT terrorism.  Just because there are holes in the system doesn't mean you just stop working towards prevention.



And?  That approach alone obviously did not help prevent 9/11.

Forgetting 9/11 ever happened suggests we should not learn from our mistakes.  

I just flew back from the states a couple of days ago. I had a bunch of shit in my carry on luggage that could easily have been converted into sharp weapons if I wanted to. Terrorists will always find loopholes and ways to get around security. But it's 99% likely that their next attack won't be via airplanes anyway. Look at Madrid and London.

Don't you also realize that all of these paranoid security checks everywhere you go is also a form of terrorism on the people? As I've said, the terrorists have already won, you're doing the work for them. They could not have hoped for better results.

What if I phrase it as "time to move on from 9/11"?

[lovemonkey]

try educating yourself instead of listening to code pink moron there have been thwarts at airports and on planes prior to 9/11

your thoughts are we should have no extra precautions?  

I think we have eliminated plenty of threats in iraq and afghanistan how many jihadist have been cleansed of this earth?

Alright, look at it from another perspective. Assuming you had no family members in the WTC, what has caused you the most hassle/pain since 9/11: The attack itself or the way your government reacted to it?

[tonymctones]

I just flew back from the states a couple of days ago. I had a bunch of shit in my carry on luggage that could easily have been converted into sharp weapons if I wanted to. Terrorists will always loopholes and ways to get around security. But it's 99% likely that their next attack won't be via airplanes anyway. Look at Madrid and London.

Don't you also realize that all of these paranoid security checks everywhere you go is also a form of terrorism on the people? As I've said, the terrorists have already won, you're doing the work for them. They could not have hoped for better results.

What if I phrase it as "time to move on from 9/11"?

so your idiotic idea is to let down our guard at airports?

youre an idiot stfu and leave this isnt the G&O you actually have to be able to put together a coherent thought to be able to post on this board.

maybe we should just let them bomb us at will? sound good to you?

[tonymctones]

Alright, look at it from another perspective. Assuming you had no family members in the WTC, what has caused you the most hassle/pain since 9/11: The attack itself or the way your government reacted to it?

how would you have expected the govt to react to it?

i assume that b/c you said "your" youre not american and if thats the case why the fuck do you care or even have an opinion?

[lovemonkey]

how would you have expected the govt to react to it?

i assume that b/c you said "your" youre not american and if thats the case why the fuck do you care or even have an opinion?

You didn't answer the question. But I'm pretty sure what your HONEST answer would be.

I care because the entire western world was affected by those attacks and america played a huge role in it, you dumbass.

[Skip8282]

Don't you also realize that all of these paranoid security checks everywhere you go is also a form of terrorism on the people? As I've said, the terrorists have already won, you're doing the work for them. They could not have hoped for better results.

What if I phrase it as "time to move on from 9/11"?

No, reasonable precautions are not a form of terrorism.  Air travel is sensitive and there is nothing wrong with attempting to thoroughly vet people who need/wish to fly.

I work on a military base.  I'm searched regularly.  Hell, I've even had MP's stick their dirty fingers in my protein powder (that one really grossed me out).  But, I can apply common sense.  Working around highly sensitive areas/data means that I should be checked out thoroughly.  That does not mean my rights are being violated.  That does not mean AQ is winning.  That's not terrorism.

[Skip8282]

We've hijacked this thread and I apologize to the OP.

As to the topic...Obama didn't EARN it.

[240 is Back]

We've hijacked this thread and I apologize to the OP.

As to the topic...Obama didn't EARN it.

Obama admits that too.  He accepts it as a challenge.  in the end, he's the guy with 1.4 million and the world applauding him.  now he has to follow thru on this peace agenda.  It's not like any other world leader is trying to limit nukes.