Author Topic: CA'S GOVERNOR SIGNS LEGISLATION TO HELP TRACK AMMUNITION SALES (Read 4180 times)

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #25 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:30:36 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on October 12, 2009, 01:28:23 PM

yep - you repeated my answer

the state has a process for making regulations and I have no problem with this law

you don't even live in CA so why should I even bother discussing it with you?

Yet, the govt prosposes any regulation having anything to do with abortion and you liberals have a fit.

Go figure.

Eric15210 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:31:39 PM »

When will Cali keep track of spending or illegals??

Kazan · « **Reply #27 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:32:28 PM »

Quote from: Eric15210 on October 12, 2009, 01:31:39 PM

When will Cali keep track of spending or illegals??

Don't be ridiculous, that would actually have some effect on a problem

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #28 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:34:57 PM »

Quote from: Eric15210 on October 12, 2009, 01:31:39 PM

When will Cali keep track of spending or illegals??

Damn right bro.

MRDUMPLING · « **Reply #29 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:35:14 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on October 12, 2009, 12:51:17 PM

of course it's our business (the citizens of the state)

just like it's our business who ows the cars on our roads, etc...

No it isn't your business of what I buy or how much. How in the world do you propose that is your business? How does my buying ammo for defense and recreation have ANY effect on you? It is not your right to track me in any way, shape, or form. This isn't unlike the DNA database that Hugo posts on. It isn't any of your damn business.

Where's that head in the sand picture?

You also didn't answer Tony's question.

Straw Man · « **Reply #30 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:35:57 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on October 12, 2009, 01:30:36 PM

Yet, the govt prosposes any regulation having anything to do with abortion and you liberals have a fit.

Go figure.

don't we already have regulations on abortion?

wtf do those two things even have in common?

just the fact that something like this bothers you tells me it's probably a good thing

Straw Man · « **Reply #31 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:38:30 PM »

just the fact that something like this bothers you tells me it's probably a good thing

don't we already have regulations on abortion?

wtf do those two things even have in common?

If you think there is some relevence there then how about we do a straight swap

Let's outlaw guns and abortion

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #32 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:39:02 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on October 12, 2009, 01:35:57 PM

don't we already have regulations on abortion?

wtf do those two things even have in common?

just the fact that something like this bothers you tells me it's probably a good thing

The govt is only here to help right Straw?

Straw Man · « **Reply #33 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:40:17 PM »

Quote from: MRDUMPLING on October 12, 2009, 01:35:14 PM

No it isn't your business of what I buy or how much. How in the world do you propose that is your business? How does my buying ammo for defense and recreation have ANY effect on you? It is not your right to track me in any way, shape, or form. This isn't unlike the DNA database that Hugo posts on. It isn't any of your damn business.

Where's that head in the sand picture?

You also didn't answer Tony's question.

news flash - I don't have to answer or keep answering anyones question

Tony doesn't even live in CA so who cares what he thinks

I live here and I have no problem with this law at all

tonymctones · « **Reply #34 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:41:47 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on October 12, 2009, 01:28:23 PM

yep - you repeated my answer

the state has a process for making regulations and I have no problem with this law

you don't even live in CA so why should I even bother discussing it with you?

you dont live in any state where gay marriage has been outlawed or serve in the military what should anybody listen to your idiot ass?

sersiously straw? youve descended into a bad bad place bro

Straw Man · « **Reply #35 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:42:11 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on October 12, 2009, 01:39:02 PM

The govt is only here to help right Straw?

the govt is only here to intrude on your life and take over your life and take away your money right?

what is the problem with this legislation

I don't see any problem at all

tonymctones · « **Reply #36 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:43:00 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on October 12, 2009, 01:28:23 PM

yep - you repeated my answer

the state has a process for making regulations and I have no problem with this law

you don't even live in CA so why should I even bother discussing it with you?

but this is good to know straw b/c i expect to never again see you address a state issue outside of yours...

Kazan · « **Reply #37 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:44:49 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on October 12, 2009, 01:42:11 PM

the govt is only here to intrude on your life and take over your life and take away your money right?

what is the problem with this legislation

I don't see any problem at all

Because it is of no use, the bloods and crips aren't going down to the local gander moutain to stock up on guns and ammo. How exactly is going to reduce crime, or lead to arrests if criminals get their guns and ammo via illegal channels? All it does is infringe upon the privacy of law abiding citizen.

Straw Man · « **Reply #38 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:45:12 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on October 12, 2009, 01:41:47 PM

you dont live in any state where gay marriage has been outlawed or serve in the military what should anybody listen to your idiot ass?

sersiously straw? youve descended into a bad bad place bro

I don't even know what you're trying to say in your post.

I don't serve in the miliatary or live "in any state where gay marriage has been outlawed"

uh - ok

then stop asking me questions dipshit

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #39 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:48:20 PM »

Quote from: 333386 on October 12, 2009, 01:23:52 PM

Why? Does the 2nd Amnd. require service in the military to own a firearm?

no, but it seems a logical fit for people who are so passionate about those things especially when their country is at war

Straw Man · « **Reply #40 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:50:01 PM »

Quote from: Kazan on October 12, 2009, 01:44:49 PM

Because it is of no use, the bloods and crips aren't going down to the local gander moutain to stock up on guns and ammo. How exactly is going to reduce crime, or lead to arrests if criminals get their guns and ammo via illegal channels? All it does is infringe upon the privacy of law abiding citizen.

ok - I see where you're coming from

just give up and do nothing

I don't buy the privacy argument.

why should the government know what car I drive?

Criminals most likely steal their cars anyway so all it does is infringe on my right to privacy

Hereford · « **Reply #41 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:50:48 PM »

Big Poopa aren't you in Afghanistan?

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #42 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:51:22 PM »

Quote from: Big Poppa J on October 12, 2009, 01:48:20 PM

no, but it seems a logical fit for people who are so passionate about those things especially when their country is at war

1. What does self defense against criminals and exercising a constitutional right have to do with military service?

2. What about people to old or infirm to serve?

3. What about people who maybe already served?

4. What about people who are self employed and have familes and cant serve?

Straw Man · « **Reply #43 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:52:24 PM »

Quote from: tonymctones on October 12, 2009, 01:43:00 PM

but this is good to know straw b/c i expect to never again see you address a state issue outside of yours...

I'd be fine with that as long as we're talking about a state law

you'll do the same too right.

please remind me when we're discussing a law in your state and I'm be happy to stay out of it

I trust we'll hear nothing more from you on this thread

MRDUMPLING · « **Reply #44 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:53:00 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on October 12, 2009, 01:40:17 PM

news flash - I don't have to answer or keep answering anyones question

Tony doesn't even live in CA so who cares what he thinks

I live here and I have no problem with this law at all

How do you think this is going to help the public safety which is what you imply by having no problem with the law. It is way too much government control.

Kazan · « **Reply #45 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:53:25 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on October 12, 2009, 01:50:01 PM

ok - I see where you're coming from

just give up and do nothing

I don't buy the privacy argument.

why should the government know what car I drive?

Criminals most likely steal their cars anyway so all it does is infringe on my right to privacy

How about actually going after the criminals, and maybe executing a bitch from time to time. Laws only apply to those that follow them.

Actually what kind of car you drive is none of the states buisness, but they gotta stick you for some cash for your license plates, so in the process they find out what kind of car you drive

Hereford · « **Reply #46 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:54:38 PM »

DMV programs and fees are nothing more than revenue production.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #47 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:56:56 PM »

Quote from: Hereford on October 12, 2009, 01:54:38 PM

DMV programs and fees are nothing more than revenue production.

Exactly. in NYS that just doubled the DMV fees to cover the budget deficit.

MRDUMPLING · « **Reply #48 on:** October 12, 2009, 01:57:45 PM »

Quote from: Straw Man on October 12, 2009, 01:50:01 PM

ok - I see where you're coming from

just give up and do nothing

I don't buy the privacy argument.

why should the government know what car I drive?

Criminals most likely steal their cars anyway so all it does is infringe on my right to privacy

Yep, an individual has no right to privacy. You're right. The state shouldn't know what car you drive nor should it be public info. As was stated before it's just more government control and revenue earner. Nothing else.

Soul Crusher · « **Reply #49 on:** October 12, 2009, 02:00:30 PM »

Quote from: MRDUMPLING on October 12, 2009, 01:57:45 PM

Yep, an individual has no right to privacy. You're right. The state shouldn't know what car you drive nor should it be public info. As was stated before it's just more government control and revenue earner. Nothing else.

From what I can tell, there is abolsutely nothing that the govt could do that Straw would find objectionable.