Evolution of bodybuilders' physiques and how the drugs are used

[jon cole]

epic meltdown-esque thread 

[Croatch]

Most of the getbig community=FAIL BB on their own
True story.
 

[MAXX]

A "personal" decision, now that is epic.  I don't know of any decisions in life that are personal ones.
I'll break it down for you...there is nothing accomplished taking drugs to make it to a gym, most can't do much on their own, you're probably one of them.  Feel better knowing you're in the majority.  I recommend continuing your drug use.  If you stop, your size will be lost, and you probably don't have the heart to do it any other way.
True story.Well said.  Only on a internet forum do you here these steroid warriors talk about how great their cycle is going and they have no shame in it.  Ask any one of these guys outside a gym about their drug use amongst strangers, see how forthcoming they'd be talking about their dirty little habit.
It's the same bs with all these guys.  What I do is my business, etc....great, but how sad is it for a middle age guy continuously lying about the only thing he probably gets recognition for?
"Hey, you're looking bigger man...what are you doing?"
"Uhhh, I've been eating more red meat and changed my training regminent."
haha
It's pathetic.

made me lol literally hahaha

[Wiggs]

You're an angry fella crotch...Why get so upset over others actions that don't affect you?

Go on being an angry natural and let the juicers be happy juicers.

You're not one of these fellas that get pissed cause an ugly fella dates a hot chick are you?

[Croatch]

You're an angry fella crotch...Why get so upset over others actions that don't affect you?

Go on being an angry natural and let the juicers be happy juicers.

You're not one of these fellas that get pissed cause an ugly fella dates a hot chick are you?

Not angry Wiggs, just letting fools know what's up.  I'm sure there are plenty of bb pretenders on the site.  When they read my post, it's like an intervention for the weak.
I may be back in Vegas.  You train on Stephanie at all?  Plenty of pretenders there too.  Sometimes I struggle to get through a workout, without busting up laughing at these clowns.

[chaos]

Sometimes I struggle to get through a workout, without busting up laughing at these clowns.

Why do you stop yourself?

Laughter is the best medicine.

[tbombz]

croatch is secretly on like three cylces from Tbombz advice.

HIs last cycle was 20 weeks of 250mg test+100mg tren every day along with 5iu gh and 20 units humalog with every meal + 75 units lantus in the morning and 75mcg cytomel everyday

[drkaje]

Not angry Wiggs, just letting fools know what's up.  I'm sure there are plenty of bb pretenders on the site.  When they read my post, it's like an intervention for the weak.
I may be back in Vegas.  You train on Stephanie at all?  Plenty of pretenders there too.  Sometimes I struggle to get through a workout, without busting up laughing at these clowns.

I used to work out pretty often with a guy who used. Nice dude, strong as fuck and never got tired while on. Off the shit he literally didn't have any emotional intensity, was useless and stopped lifting until a new source was available. Had a smoking hot GF but I found out later on tons of guys were pounding her pussy because of erectile issues.

Haven't seen him in years. Life choices aside, he was good to work out with on cycle; always on time and didn't talk too much.

[Fatpanda]

This might go a little long but stay with me...

I was thinking about why we don't see the quality physiques in the NPC as we did 15 years ago.  In addition, why do you have some guys that look the same their whole career and some guys that blow up.

Since I started working out, I've always been told was important to build a base before hitting the sauce.  Reason being, you want to take your body as close as you can to it's natural genetic limit, then you will be to become even larger on the the sauce.  I guess I can agree with that in that if you took two cloned humans and have one weight train for 5 years and the other natural for those five years then you use juice for two years after, who is going to be bigger and better? The clone that trained naturally or the clone that didn't train at all?  The answer is obvious...

Next up is GH, IGF and insulin.  Many bodybuilders from the 70s and even in the 80s didn't use any of these and were able to obtain incredible physiques.  Yet you have people who have cycles 2 or 3 times that are talking the peptides, slin mega doses of test and everything else you can think.  They might end up building a decent physique but they could have built a much better one had they stayed with a reasonable amount of juice and increased the food for a couple more years (I understand this is the "I want it right now American Culture")These are the guys that were able to make it to the pros but won't do anything because they really are tapped out in terms of size or their bodies are just tired because of the mega doses of everything.  It goes to beg the question, how important is GH, IGF and Slin?  Answer = very important.  BUT if you can't win a local show without it, you probably won't fare too well in the pros.  The guys that go on to be successful pros are guys that aren't just young but fresh (no homo).  Fresh meaning they haven't used everything but the kitchen sink...This means they still have much room to grow and improve in the pro ranks to compete with the greats. example as of recently: Phil Heath and Kai Greene.  It is alleged that Kai was natural when he turned pro winning the team universe and that phil used a very low amount around 750mg of test and some other stuff (ALLEGEDLY).  Obviously everyone won't be able to respond the way Phil does or follow the path Kai took (assuming all this is true).  But these guys that are hyper responders will always be at the top of the pack.  When these guys start using in the amounts (and what they use ((GH, IGF and slin)) other guys are using you get the huge jumps in weight. Example (Ronnie and Kai).

Will bodybuilders ever take less drugs than a previous generation?  Probably not until there is gene replacement therapy or something else that comes along.  We are the more is better culture and unfortunately bodybuilding is one of the best examples of this.  Guys that look great naturally and look incredible using (by bodbuilders standards) "a little" will always be ahead of the pack.  The guys megadosers will always be trying to catch up to make up for their bodybuilding genetic inferiority.

Obviously it's much more complicated then drugs and genetics.........LOL. No it's not

Bottom line...Save your money on the GH, IGF and Slin unless you look like you can step on a national stage.

*unless you're using the GH for the many other usefull reasons.

i agree wiggs, although i do not think gh or igf makes much difference, judging from how its rampant use has been accompanied by rampant decline in quality physiques. not to mention how gh has very little impact on muscle growth in studies.

BB drug usage is disgusting and most have no place taking them.
The end.

why have YOU used them then ?

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[Nasty Nate]

Why did he go off?

[chaos]

Not a huge difference, except conditioning.

[JimmyJam1974]

Why did he go off?

HEALTH ISSUES

[tbombz]

hes not off in the second picture, he just isnt going insane with his doseages and number of drugs.

[WillGrant]

hes not off in the second picture, he just isnt going insane with his doseages and number of drugs.

Agree , do you think he could of taken in to much thyroid med in the supposed off pic?