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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #325 on: December 21, 2009, 07:20:21 AM »
Wow Hulkster.. your taking a beating in this thread....

Well, in Hulkster's defense, it must be hard to put up a good fight when you have Ronnie's dick in your mouth and Shawn's in your ass 24/7.

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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #326 on: December 21, 2009, 07:41:42 AM »
shawn ray is way above dexters level
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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #327 on: December 21, 2009, 12:15:38 PM »
And....

It happens, just as Cutler beat a "subpar" Coleman and Jackson beat a "subpar" Cutler.



what are you babbling about?

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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #328 on: December 21, 2009, 01:41:02 PM »
Damn sick shots of Dex! That last one his rear lat spread is huge, like a mini-Ronnie

i agree completely - i have always thought that of dex in the back shots - only dex has better conditioning, symmetry and balance.
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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #329 on: December 21, 2009, 01:45:23 PM »


Dex has the most complete physique thats ever stepped in stage. Forget Flex- hes a cheat with implants and arms...thats it. They should ban implants in BB.

i agree completely - there is no one that can compare, and if he were 4 " taller he would be without doubt recognised as the greatest bodybuilder of all time - and untouchable until he retires
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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #330 on: December 21, 2009, 01:53:18 PM »
Isn't Labrada Cuban?

Yup lmfao  Hulkster is getting very frustrated when he resorts to this bullshit.

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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #331 on: December 21, 2009, 01:55:37 PM »
Wow Hulkster.. your taking a beating in this thread....

He is , that's what happens when you don't know what you're talking about and act like you do and make blanket statements and personally attack people , every post he exposes himself as the ignorant troll he is.

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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #332 on: December 21, 2009, 02:00:24 PM »
shawn ray is way above dexters level

yup. seems like there are many who are smart enough to agree with me.

notice how the same dorian nuthuggers are the same ones on this thread nuthugging dex.

I guess if you are stupid enough to think dorian was better than ronnie, you are stupid enough to think dex was better than shawn... ::) :-\

how sad. but I guess stupid is stupid.

no matter what thread it might be in.. :-\
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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #333 on: December 21, 2009, 02:03:33 PM »
sorry, you tried to go with ND who did post facts...yet you did not.

For your first comment, it is not fact that both showed up in top shape, it is opinion. Secondly, Ray edged out Labrada on points by a single place.

your second "Fact", is again not a fact at all. its your opinion again.

Your third is yet another opinion.

Do you understand what a fact is?



Great post!

Hulkster doesn't know what facts are which is exactly why he he runs through his spiel of posting two very carefully selected pics add a dash of hyperbole and a pinch of ad hominem and you have the base for a Hulkster ' argument ' and everyone once in a while he add in the appeal to numbers , he just hits every faulty argument he can


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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #334 on: December 21, 2009, 02:06:05 PM »
yup. seems like there are many who are smart enough to agree with me.

notice how the same dorian nuthuggers are the same ones on this thread nuthugging dex.

I guess if you are stupid enough to think dorian was better than ronnie, you are stupid enough to think dex was better than shawn... ::) :-\

how sad. but I guess stupid is stupid.

no matter what thread it might be in.. :-\

Do you understand what a fact is?


Hulkster you never answered the question  ;)

and you just proved my fucking point to the letter

he runs through his spiel of posting two very carefully selected pics add a dash of hyperbole and a pinch of ad hominem and you have the base for a Hulkster ' argument ' and everyone once in a while he add in the appeal to numbers , he just hits every faulty argument he can

lmmfao Hulkster it's amazing how stupid and predictable you are

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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #335 on: December 21, 2009, 02:06:29 PM »
hey dorian/dex nuthuggers:

are you really this stupid to think dex is better?:

enjoy:
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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #336 on: December 21, 2009, 02:10:27 PM »
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Do you understand what a fact is?


Hulkster you never answered the question 

yes I understand perfectly what a fact is.

and it is fact that according to proper application of judging standards, shawns 94 olympia physique is better than dex's olympia winning physique.

for many many reasons. better structure, better lines, better detail, better entire lower body etc.

this argument is just as stupid as dorian vs ronnie..

but you are two dumb to see it. but then again, who would expect you to with your proven track record of stupidity?

no one.


and I would like to point out how once again you are doing your best to discredit all the comparisons, because they show quite clearly how much better shawn was.

the only edge dex has is lat width. but that never stopped shawn from beating much wider guys, like dillett
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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #337 on: December 21, 2009, 02:16:23 PM »
yes I understand perfectly what a fact is.

and it is fact that according to proper application of judging standards, shawns 94 olympia physique is better than dex's olympia winning physique.

for many many reasons. better structure, better lines, better detail, better entire lower body etc.

this argument is just as stupid as dorian vs ronnie..

but you are two dumb to see it. but then again, who would expect you to with your proven track record of stupidity?

no one.


and I would like to point out how once again you are doing your best to discredit all the comparisons, because they show quite clearly how much better shawn was.

the only edge dex has is lat width. but that never stopped shawn from beating much wider guys, like dillett

You don't even know the IFBB judging criteria , I've proven many times how little you know about how contests are judged. And you just missed everything you tried to claim was a fact LMMFAO

And just like I said

he runs through his spiel of posting two very carefully selected pics add a dash of hyperbole and a pinch of ad hominem and you have the base for a Hulkster ' argument ' and everyone once in a while he add in the appeal to numbers , he just hits every faulty argument he can

You're taking another beating in a thread that you try and post in as knowing something and are reduced to race claims from a guy who isn't even ' white ' lmmfao


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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #338 on: December 21, 2009, 02:18:12 PM »
Well, in Hulkster's defense, it must be hard to put up a good fight when you have Ronnie's dick in your mouth and Shawn's in your ass 24/7.

Ouch  :-X he alternates between Ray and Coleman  ;D

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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #339 on: December 21, 2009, 02:35:17 PM »
Sorry, but again, Dexter competed in an era that is far inferior in terms of worthy competitors, compared to that of Shawn's flock of competitors.

Shawn placed HIGH with a PRIME Levrone, Yates, Wheeler, Dilett, Cormier, Nasser, Taylor, etc....

Shawn's overall physique is far better than Dexters.

I completely agree with Hulkster on this one. I don't want to debate it for 4 years like the Truce Thread and I don't feel it needs to be debated into the ground. If we're only looking at Dexter's Olympia win, of course we can say he was better, but if we at who he had to beat to achieve first place, the case is over. Everything else is just biases and anger and pettiness on the part of the old married couples on here.

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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #340 on: December 21, 2009, 02:51:46 PM »
Sorry, but again, Dexter competed in an era that is far inferior in terms of worthy competitors, compared to that of Shawn's flock of competitors.

Shawn placed HIGH with a PRIME Levrone, Yates, Wheeler, Dilett, Cormier, Nasser, Taylor, etc....

Shawn's overall physique is far better than Dexters.

I completely agree with Hulkster on this one. I don't want to debate it for 4 years like the Truce Thread and I don't feel it needs to be debated into the ground. If we're only looking at Dexter's Olympia win, of course we can say he was better, but if we at who he had to beat to achieve first place, the case is over. Everything else is just biases and anger and pettiness on the part of the old married couples on here.

The Olympia has nothing to do with it. I mean on a base level their physique are very comparable and Dexter has advantages Shawn doesn't it's that simple, Both are the exact same height yet Dex carries more muscular bulk and it's not size for the sake of size because he maintains a conditioning level at least as good if not better.

Dex has a better base , wider clavicles , wider back , both have a similar length toros and leg length but Shawn's quads are squared off compared to Dexter , both have high calves but Shawn has the edge here , I mean it's close on a lot of areas you can't just type Shawn blows him out the water because it's simply not true , you can prefer Shawn's look more than Dexter but that doesn't mean anything when contests are judged

According to the criteria Dexter meets it better , size , conditioning , balance etc

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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #341 on: December 21, 2009, 03:38:17 PM »
Sorry, but again, Dexter competed in an era that is far inferior in terms of worthy competitors, compared to that of Shawn's flock of competitors.

Shawn placed HIGH with a PRIME Levrone, Yates, Wheeler, Dilett, Cormier, Nasser, Taylor, etc....

Shawn's overall physique is far better than Dexters.

I completely agree with Hulkster on this one. I don't want to debate it for 4 years like the Truce Thread and I don't feel it needs to be debated into the ground. If we're only looking at Dexter's Olympia win, of course we can say he was better, but if we at who he had to beat to achieve first place, the case is over. Everything else is just biases and anger and pettiness on the part of the old married couples on here.

well said. but ND and co. are not smart enough to apply the criteria correctly, so they mistakenly believe that dex is better, just as they are stupid enough to think that dorian was better than Ronnie.

sad sad sad.
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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #342 on: December 21, 2009, 03:43:08 PM »
well said. but ND and co. are not smart enough to apply the criteria correctly, so they mistakenly believe that dex is better, just as they are stupid enough to think that dorian was better than Ronnie.

sad sad sad.

There you go again NO content what so ever , NO elaboration of your ' opinion ' just base claims , personal attacks and hyperbole.

You're so desperate for anyone to agree with you , another case of you seeking comfort in numbers

You don't even know the criteria


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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #343 on: December 21, 2009, 03:44:15 PM »
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it's not size for the sake of size because he maintains a conditioning level at least as good if not better.

completely and totally 100% WRONG:

the reason you are getting this so backwards is you are basing your argument on total lies.. ::)

much like you do in the dorian ronnie fiasco, which is just as silly as this thread.

shawn had much better conditioning than dex, easily:

stop posting bullshit and you might get it right for a change.. ::)
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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #344 on: December 21, 2009, 03:46:32 PM »
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There you go again NO content what so ever

no, the comparisons in this thread are the most profound content posted.

and they show you are wrong, hence why you make up bullshit reasons to discredit them.

much as you do in the dorian ronnie threads.

as always, real life is ND's worst enemy..nothing changes.

in fact, muscletime is ND's most hated site, because it has great pics that show just how wrong ND is..
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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #345 on: December 21, 2009, 03:47:44 PM »
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I don't want to debate it for 4 years like the Truce Thread and I don't feel it needs to be debated into the ground.

no need. shawn was far far above dex, whether he won a Mr. O title in the worst competitive era in the sport since the early 60's or not..
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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #346 on: December 21, 2009, 03:47:48 PM »
completely and totally 100% WRONG:

the reason you are getting this so backwards is you are basing your argument on total lies.. ::)

much like you do in the dorian ronnie fiasco, which is just as silly as this thread.

shawn had much better conditioning than dex, easily:

stop posting bullshit and you might get it right for a change.. ::)

More hyperbole and NO content

Shawn is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOO much better and SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more ripped and Dex isn't even in Shawn's league EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRR  ::)

spoken like the complete idiot you are  ;)

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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #347 on: December 21, 2009, 03:50:57 PM »
no, the comparisons in this thread are the most profound content posted.

and they show you are wrong, hence why you make up bullshit reasons to discredit them.

much as you do in the dorian ronnie threads.

as always, real life is ND's worst enemy..nothing changes.

in fact, muscletime is ND's most hated site, because it has great pics that show just how wrong ND is..

Same old Hulkster posts carefully selected pics and cries ' see ' come back when you learn what facts are ummmmK  ;)

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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #348 on: December 21, 2009, 04:55:18 PM »
yes, my comparisons are carefully selected to be as fair as possible.

you just hate them because they expose you for being flat out wrong. ::)

you always run from comparisons, they always show your lack of knowledge and lies that you post.
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Re: Shawn Ray VS. Dexter Jackson
« Reply #349 on: December 21, 2009, 04:58:51 PM »
yes, my comparisons are carefully selected to be as fair as possible.

you just hate them because they expose you for being flat out wrong. ::)

you always run from comparisons, they always show your lack of knowledge and lies that you post.

Facts , you really should spend more time with learning what facts are and less time with personal attacks but we all know that's all you have with is always a poor substitute for content

your slanted ' comparisons ' are legendary even people who agree Ronnie is better laugh at your blatant bias and stupidity