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« on: December 16, 2009, 03:34:01 PM »

I'm suprised we haven't done this topic yet. HHH 2000-2003 had the best physique in history IMO. Hogan in his prime was massive too. Who else comes to mind?

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2009, 03:43:29 PM »

Steiner was huge near the end of wcw he looked better earlier IMO



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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2009, 06:20:45 PM »

Ultimate Warrior - 1st WWF run
Rick Rude - anytime he donned tights
Jimmy Snuka - early 80's
Davey Boy Smith - early 90's was his best
Ivan Putski - all throughout his prime
Ray "Hercules" Hernandez - again, always looked good
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2009, 06:32:23 PM »

Ultimate Warrior
Road Warrior Hawk
HHH
Lashley - looked ridiculous on his debut
Orton - a few years ago, he had the best combination of size and aesthetics

These days I prefer the conditioning of Morrison and Ziggler.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2009, 06:35:54 PM »

rick rude, hhh, and chris benoit were my first inspirations to go to the gym and train.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2009, 07:34:20 PM »

There was only one guy I wanted to look like: Lex Luger. In his prime, he had it all: height, great lines, wide shoulders, small waist.

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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2009, 07:53:19 PM »

Lugers a good choice. Hennig in his prime is very underrated. One thing i noticed is how Ted and Jr both have the same body type. Good chest and traps and weak arms and shoulders.



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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2009, 10:07:19 PM »

As a kid I liked Superstar Billy Graham ( late 70's version), Tony Atlas, Austin Idol, Putski.
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« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2009, 05:47:31 AM »

For me it was The Warlord. If you ever saw him live in the late eighties early ninties, the guy was as big as a house. My favorite wrestling physiques:

HHH in his prime 2000-2002
Scott Steiner as big papa pump...this guy was untouchable.
Ultimate Warrior huge & ripped
Hulk Hogan again huge
Hercules Hernandez
Rick Rude smaller scale build but shredded to the tee. Sick abs.
The Barbarian again huge
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2009, 06:45:43 AM »

Aesthetically, Rude had great balance/symmetry.
He usually combined that proportioning with impressive cuts.

There were times when he was a little smoother than others, but for many of his highest profile programs he looked impressive even next to UW.

Quite a few times in WWF he looked like he was in single-digit BF%.

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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2009, 07:08:54 AM »

I agree about HHH in his prime, was a primary motivation for me.  I even purchased his workout book.  Also worth mentioning is Mike Awesome and Lance Storm (due to his natural status). 

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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2009, 07:16:24 AM »

But honestly these days I have more realistic aspirations so I aim for something more achieveable like Ted Dibiase or Cody Rhodes type of physique.  (no homo) 
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2009, 09:14:09 AM »

ULTIMATE WARRIOR the closest to bbing build all  around,luger great conditiong and shape,snuka as far back as late seventies looked unreal under the old madison square garden ring lights graham putski 2.remember they darkened the arena then and house lights were on and the lighting had great effect watch the old tapes u'll see sick lines on snuka.dynamite kid was very conditioned,paul roma great build again bbing look,never liked bulk hogan shapeless,,kerry von erich great build.long list on and on...
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2009, 10:39:36 AM »

ANd lots not forget....Superstar Billy Graham. He was HUGE and RIPPED.
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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2009, 08:00:58 PM »

photo and article taken from his site, stormwrestling.com




Training
Let me start by saying I am not a licensed or certified trainer. I am just a guy who has spent the better of the last 24 years in a gym, training with weights, and who has developed a way of training that works for me. This will only be a general explaination of my theory of training. I think the biggest problem people face in the gym is over training. This is a strange concept for people to grasp. More people are of the more is better philosophy. Over training is a result of people not knowing how to train. Unfortunately most workout advice comes from muscle magazines, and famous body builders. This is a problem because, with very few exceptions, all of these people are on steroids. Steroids enable your body to recover quicker from training, thus enable you to train harder and more frequent. If you train this way and aren't on steroids, your body will fatigue from over training, and you won't get your best results. Sometimes less is more.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not on steroids, nor have I ever been. The angle I did with Candito, and Dreamer, when I claimed to be the best built professional athlete, this side of a negative drug test was a shoot, as least as far as the negative drug test part. If you plan on using steroids my way of training won't be for you, for everyone else let me say avoiding steroids is a wise decision, steroids only provide very short term results, and they come with a very high price, not the least of which being inevitable injuries.

I believe best results are achieved when you train your body once to twice a week, and you must provide it with lots of rest, so it can grow. I divided my body into three training days; chest & biceps, shoulders & legs, back & triceps.

I try to get to the gym about 3 maybe 4 times a week (I wish it were more but unfortunately that isn't the case). So I train my body 1 to maybe 1 1/2 times per week. After training those muscle groups, which takes about 1 hour, I alternate abs and cardio. 1 day abs the next cardio. If I'm really pressed for time or feeling lazy I skip the abs and cardio. This isn't really a good idea but hey, no ones perfect, least of all me. This with wrestling 4 days a week is about all my body can handle.

The key to my training; is very strict form, I don't worry about lifting heavy weights, I worry about lifting them properly, and always use a full range of motion, with a slower stricter form. You need to avoid the urge of using too heavy of weight. Many people take long rest periods between sets so they can lift heavier. This is a waste of time, in my opinion. The muscle doesn't know the difference between 50 and 10 lbs, it only knows how hard it is working. If you train the muscle to failure, that's training heavy. What is too heavy and too light? I'm a firm believer in reps between 6 - 12. Choose a weight, then with strict form do as many reps as you can. If you can do more than 12, it's too light, go heavier with your next set. Your first set should be 10 - 12 reps. If you can't get 10 reps, it's too heavy to start. As long as you can get a strict 8 - 10 go a bit heavier next set. If you can only get 6 on your last 2 sets, that's cool, stay with that weight. If you can't get 6 reps, lower the weight. That's pretty much it, pretty basic really. This should give you a general idea as to the way I train. Please if you decide to try my training method, be sure to stretch and warm up the muscles before training. Always consult with a licensed trainer or doctor if you have any pain or discomfort while training. Muscle pain during training can be good, but any joint pain should be looked at seriously. The theory of "no pain, no gain" is often misunderstood.

I always train the biggest muscle first. Large muscles, such as Chest and Back, I do four exercises with 4 sets of each. Smaller muscles like Biceps and Triceps only 3 exercises with again 4 sets of each. Legs I train different from most people, I train legs with high reps and ligher weights. This isn't favourable for most people, but when I train legs heavy I lose my vertical leap, not to mention the fact that with 4 bulging discs in my lower back heavy squatting is not advised. My speed and mobility is too important too me, so I train light legs and only do 3 or 4 exercises for them. Shoulders are important and something very easy to injure in the gym. Overhead presses of some kind are a must for big shoulders, but they are very hard on you as well. My keys to taking care of the shoulders are; stretching, rotator cuff strengthening, and doing presses late in the workout. Most people do presses first, so they are fresh and can lift heavier. I disagree. I do lateral raises for the three deltoid heads first. This strengthens and tightens the muscles first, and helps stabilize the shoulder joint for the presses. You won't be able to press as heavy, but remember this doesn't matter. The muscle will still be working hard.

Supplements
I don't use any supplements anymore but i did use a couple of supplements when I was working fulltime, Creatine Monohydrate, and Vanadyl pH. I still use protein shakes and bars, but I consider them a diet supplement not a training supplement. For people who are just starting to train, I don't recommend supplements. I think it is important to get as much out of your body, on its own, before trying anything. I was training about 12 - 15 years before taking my first supplement. This is of course excessive but if you get everything out of your body that you can first, you will then be better able to judge what the supplements are actually doing for you. It is also along this same vain, why I suggest only taking 1 supplement at a time. If you take more than one, who is to say which is working for you, all bodies react differently.

Both of the supplements, I took, were recommended to me. Rob Rooksby is the owner & operator of The Gym is Calgary, and I get all of my diet and supplement advice from him. It's important to find someone you trust when buying supplements, as there is a lot of crap out there.

Diet
I don't have a very complex diet. A diet to me isn't something you are on, or off, it's simply your eating habits. I don't keep track of the amount of fat, protein, ot carbohydrates that I eat. My only rule of thumb is, avoid fat and keep my protein intake high. If there is a lot of fat in something, I don't eat it, period. I don't eat any desserts or junk food, and don't drink. No cheese. No butter. No peanut butter.

If they make a fat free version of something I use it. You do need some fat in your diet, but I find I still get enough when I try to avoid it all together. I always try to consume most of my carbohydrates earlier in the day. Avoid huge carb intake right before bed. Try to eat as many times a day as you can. Frequent meals increase your metabolism. Some people have a binge day, where they can eat things they usually don't. I disagree with this. I feel this only keeps your cravings alive. I find if you go long enough without something you quit craving it, and for the most part, no longer want it. Many people view eating as a source of enjoyment. I don't eat for enjoyment. I eat to fuel my body.

That's it in a nut shell, the world of Diet and Training as seen through the eyes of a guy who has been training for almost 2/3rds of his life. WOW I feel old!

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« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2009, 08:13:30 PM »

Back around '98/'99 he had a sample of each day's routines on the site.

And I don't remember if it was contained within the outline or part of another section, but he mentioned flat benching 400+ lbs. quite early in his lifting career.
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« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2009, 10:53:55 PM »

Back around '98/'99 he had a sample of each day's routines on the site.

And I don't remember if it was contained within the outline or part of another section, but he mentioned flat benching 400+ lbs. quite early in his lifting career.

I don't at all remember him saying he benched 400+lbs, not calling you a liar he may have but I just don't remember it.  Also I have in a notepad said workout routines that he no longer has posted on his sight. I can post them someday if there is enough interest.   Basically it is 4 exercises 4 sets of 6-10 reps per bodypart.  Only 3 exercises for smaller muscle groups.
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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2009, 06:28:18 AM »

In an interview of 2001, Chyna verified that HHH benched 405lbs.
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2009, 06:43:46 AM »

I don't at all remember him saying he benched 400+lbs, not calling you a liar he may have but I just don't remember it.  Also I have in a notepad said workout routines that he no longer has posted on his sight. I can post them someday if there is enough interest.   Basically it is 4 exercises 4 sets of 6-10 reps per bodypart.  Only 3 exercises for smaller muscle groups.

Okay - it must have been in one of his commentaries, then. This was about 7 or 8 years ago.
I don't know how far his archives go back since redoing his site, but that'd be a lot to search through, anyway.

But, yes - 4 sets of 4 ex. is/was Storm's routine that he had documented on a chart in the training section of his old site.

RVD had bench weight listed in his training outline on his site.
He may, still. I haven't been on his site in years.



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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2009, 08:33:33 AM »

I once saw a clip of RVD doing the splits on chairs while holding a 120lb dumbbell  Shocked
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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2009, 08:52:05 AM »

Jimmy Snuka

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« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2009, 02:28:10 PM »

Jimmy Snuka, Paul Orndorff, Road Warriors, Rick Rude and Don Muraco were among the first ones.

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« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2009, 03:03:01 PM »

this guy


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« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2009, 03:08:42 PM »

Nikita Koloff was a big dude.
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« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2009, 03:17:18 PM »

Nikita Koloff was a big dude.


Damn, how did I forget Nikita!  He has monster traps.  Very athletic guy for his size, too.
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