Should we accept people from Haiti as refugees and give them legal status?

[Hereford]

Yea dude.

Mexicans 'don't want to abandon their homeland' either. They just wholesale take advantage of a national government that puts politics before the welfare and safety of its' people to consume as much as they can.

There are 10.3 million people in Haiti. If Obama lets them in there will be 10.3 million welfare recipients in the US PERMANENTLY.

[James]

I think this question is judgmental and stupid to say the least... The Haitians need medical help and food as well as equipment to rebuild Port Au Prince (sic). They did not ask america for citizenship or anything of the like. If any Haitians go to america it will be for medical attention and will leave soon thereafter. They are not looking to abandon their homeland.

Truth is very few people want to go to america as they know the problems of the nation. the Mexicans were BROUGHT INTO AMERICA to undermind its labor force and industries. Now that there is not much industry/jobs left, they have been leaving in droves. Sadly many went and immediately started having children thinking everything was going to be fine and that the children would entitle them to citizenship..hahahah they got caught holding the bag.

Nonetheless I hoped you watched and noticed how many whites were in Haiti caught up in the woes as well. These are the americans who escaped america and went to Haiti/Dominican Republic/Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands etc in hopes of getting away from the problems of america... sadly for them they never thought this was going to happen.

Damn,  You really are clueless.

FYI......  the average income in Haiti is less than 2 dollars a day, and Haiti is one of the world's poorest countries.. And given the chance, most Haitians would leave for the USA. To to think otherwise is absurd.

And your comment about "very few people want to go to America", takes the cake.  I guess the huge backlog of Visa applications from people world wide wanting to immigrate to the USA, are just lies as well in your little brain.

I take back what I said about Hedgehog being "the most ignorant one on GetBig", as you are the owner of that title.

[OzmO]

Question:

Should we accept and give people from Haiti legal status as refugees and give them the right to vote?

They were just discussing this as a possibility being discussed in Washington DC.

I say hell no. 

If you need votes......

[240 is Back]

now I never talk politics with people in 'real life'. 

I always just shrug it off when people discuss things, cause people tend to become moratl enemies with you immediately if they realize you disagree with them on any issue or candidate.

But lately, everybody I talk to seems to be super concerned with tons of haitians flooding Florida's shores.  Here in Ft Myers, we get a few every year that end up in our city on the beach.  people are worried there are going to be a lot more - especially since they now know that nobody will be getting kicked out.

[Eyeball Chambers]

Truth is very few people want to go to america as they know the problems of the nation. the Mexicans were BROUGHT INTO AMERICA

I'm seriously crying I'm laughing so hard.... Thanks samsonenterprises!!!   

[SAMSON123]

Yea dude.

Mexicans 'don't want to abandon their homeland' either. They just wholesale take advantage of a national government that puts politics before the welfare and safety of its' people to consume as much as they can.

There are 10.3 million people in Haiti. If Obama lets them in there will be 10.3 million welfare recipients in the US PERMANENTLY.

Just to remind you the welfare rolls of america are 88 percent white...Maybe these whites should be shipped back to europe?

[shootfighter1]

No.  
We have to separate our heart-felt compassion for these people during this disaster from something that would just be a very bad idea for our country.  I wouldn't doubt if we start hearing more about this.

Yes, we should absolutely be there to help them and donate people, supplies and cash to be used to help during this disaster....but we shouldn't allow Haitian's to immigrate here, nor should we be set up as police in Haiti.

[SAMSON123]

Damn,  You really are clueless.

FYI......  the average income in Haiti is less than 2 dollars a day, and Haiti is one of the world's poorest countries.. And given the chance, most Haitians would leave for the USA. To to think otherwise is absurd.

And your comment about "very few people want to go to America", takes the cake.  I guess the huge backlog of Visa applications from people world wide wanting to immigrate to the USA, are just lies as well in your little brain.

I take back what I said about Hedgehog being "the most ignorant one on GetBig", as you are the owner of that title.

Not as clueless as you are... VISA applications come from people also seeking education opportunities, which is the bulk of VISA requests. Yes many go to america in search of a better life, but they soon find out that the WONDERLAND that america has depicted itself as is anything but. There has been a number of exposes about people from Russia, various Central and South American countries that went to america with high hopes only to find themselves in worst shape afterward. An absolutely embarrassing episode was shown on the BBC of people from Mexico who returned to their homeland after being in america for some years with the main complaint being america is NOT what they were told it was. Too much crime, filth, taxes, low paying jobs, little opportunity and much in the form of social problems. Imagine people from those places seeing america as worst off than their homeland.

If the Haitians would leave Haiti for america with such speed, then why are there not loads of them constantly arriving??? Despite the american produced poverty in Haiti (just like in Cuba) the people know and love their homeland. Yes some of the younger Haitians leave Haiti to try and gain opportunities elsewhere, but by no means are they rushing to america...that should tell you something right there about america.

[SAMSON123]

I'm seriously crying I'm laughing so hard.... Thanks samsonenterprises!!!   

You should be crying from your stupidity in thinking they WALKED TO AMERICA AND JUMPED THE FENCE...

[Fury]

Just to remind you the welfare rolls of america are 88 percent white...Maybe these whites should be shipped back to europe?

No shit? Here I was thinking white people made up the overwhelming majority of the American population. Who would have thunk they would also make up the majority of welfare recipients as well? 

Hilarious that this guy is crying about whites given the way Muslims treat their slaves servants in the Middle East.

[Eyeball Chambers]

You should be crying from your stupidity in thinking they WALKED TO AMERICA AND JUMPED THE FENCE...

Yes, of course!  Why would they leave their paradise to come to a third world hell hole!!

[OzmO]

Truth is very few people want to go to america as they know the problems of the nation.

So there's no need to try and stop illegal immigration anymore?

There aren't hundreds if not thousands of mexicans entering the USA daily?

Maybe this recession is a deliberate intentional inducement by the people who really run the government to create a country no one wants to go to because of  their inability to control or curb illegal immigration?

 

[Hereford]

Just to remind you the welfare rolls of america are 88 percent white...Maybe these whites should be shipped back to europe?

Is that right?

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm

Next time do a little research before you pop off Judi.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I say annex Haiti. Turn it into a giant theme park for the obese and the religious and then nuke it.

What's your issue with Haiti???

[Hedgehog]

Question:

Should we accept and give people from Haiti legal status as refugees and give them the right to vote?

They were just discussing this as a possibility being discussed in Washington DC.

I say hell no. 

Didn't most ancestors to Americans come to the US as either refugees, immigrants or slaves? Your ancestors were immigrants once as well. What's the difference between them and the Haitians?

[George Whorewell]

Hedge, if that's your attitude then why have any restrictions on immigration into this country at all?

Why not just open up our borders and let everyone from anywhere enter with absolutely no standards, background checks, or anything else?

I mean after all, most Americans came to this country as refugees, immigrants and slaves

While we are on the subject-- how about we abolish state soverignty also?

No more borders, the whole world becomes one country and everyone can live where they want, when they want!

[The True Adonis]

What's your issue with Haiti???

I was being facetious first off.  With that said, Haiti is a religious backwards shit hole which is a large reason why so many have died recently.  They still think a boogeyman in the sky creates earthquakes and hurricanes and that the invisible sky god will protect or discard willingly according to their behavior.  This has grave implications as they throw no caution to the wind and go about living as if they are but pawns in a deranged supernatural game of chess.

Their entire society and education needs to be totally restructured so the loss of life due to a natural disaster is minimized.  As long as religion plays at the forefront, the loss of human life in such events will be just as great if not greater as they sit by and do nothing to prepare, instead leaving it to the sick supernatural  non-existent benefactor in the sky.

[George Whorewell]

Your idiocy really knows no bounds.

These people are poor, dirt poor and have no infrastructure. Furthermore, the country is located in a haven for natural disasters. And, for good measure, the government is inept, corrupt and has been unable to sustain any growth or tangible services for the population---- pretty much since the country was founded.

What the fuck does any of that have to do with belief in a higher power? Outside of satisfying your homosexual appetite for atheism, what possible utility would the people of Haiti have received by not believing in God?

[The True Adonis]

Your idiocy really knows no bounds.

These people are poor, dirt poor and have no infastructure. Furthermore, the country is located in a haven for natural disasters. And, for good measure, the government is inept, corrupt and has been unable to sustain any growth or tangiable services for the population---- pretty much since the country was founded.

What the fuck does any of that have to do with belief in a higher power? Outside of satisfying your homosexual appitite for atheism, what possible utility would the people of Haiti have recieved by not believing in God?

Read my other posts regarding their poverty.  This is a separate issue, Cumwell.

[George Whorewell]

LOL--

You wrote that many people in Haiti have died recently because they are religious.

Please clarify that quote in relation to this topic-- since poverty is a seperate issue ( and for anyone with an iq above 20, is the only issue with respect to Haiti).

I'm not going to look into your other posts, because I have better things to do with my time. Please explain to me how religion, rather than poverty, a shitty government and no infastructure coupled with the location of the country itself is responsible for the fact that an earthquake just killed several thousand people.

While your tripping over your own feet trying to rationalize your moronic statement, also see if you can dig up that video of you deadlifting 225x100 times as well. 

[The True Adonis]

LOL--

You wrote that many people in Haiti have died recently because they are religious.

Please clarify that quote in relation to this topic-- since poverty is a seperate issue ( and for anyone with an iq above 20, is the only issue with respect to Haiti).

I'm not going to look into your other posts, because I have better things to do with my time. Please explain to me how religion, rather than poverty, a shitty government and no infastructure coupled with the location of the country itself is responsible for the fact that an earthquake just killed several thousand people.

While your tripping over your own feet trying to rationalize your moronic statement, also see if you can dig up that video of you deadlifting 225x100 times as well. 

I don`t really feel like going into the Socio-economic impact of a highly religious and uneducated population.  You wouldn`t read anything I posted anyways so why should I waste my gym time on a mindless sot such as yourself?

“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.”
 Seneca quotes (Roman philosopher, mid-1st century AD)

[George Whorewell]

Translation: TA is a mindless fuckwad who can't back up anything he says with fact, so he pulls useless quotations out of his ass and skirts the topic at issue.

Thank you.

[haider]

Your idiocy really knows no bounds.

These people are poor, dirt poor and have no infrastructure. Furthermore, the country is located in a haven for natural disasters. And, for good measure, the government is inept, corrupt and has been unable to sustain any growth or tangible services for the population---- pretty much since the country was founded.

What the fuck does any of that have to do with belief in a higher power? Outside of satisfying your homosexual appetite for atheism, what possible utility would the people of Haiti have received by not believing in God?

hahaha this one just takes the cake LOL!!

[The True Adonis]

Translation: TA is a mindless fuckwad who can't back up anything he says with fact, so he pulls useless quotations out of his ass and skirts the topic at issue.

Thank you.

The topic is about refugees and legal status.  I was being facetious from the outset and even remarked as such.  Do you really think I believe in Nuclear Holocaust to solve world and regional problems?  Wait, isn`t that a Neo-Con fantasy?  

[Fury]

No legal status. Stay out. Go to Europe or Latin America.