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« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2010, 08:26:03 PM » |
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When the Hart dynasty interacted with Jericho it was pure gold....
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« Reply #51 on: February 17, 2010, 06:36:15 AM » |
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Well, seeing how they did that angle on Raw where Bret was backed into by another car and "broke his leg", that is the way out for him not to wrestle. I can see it now. Vince chooses Batista to represent him at WM26 and Bret chooses John Cena.
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« Reply #52 on: February 17, 2010, 10:23:10 AM » |
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Well, seeing how they did that angle on Raw where Bret was backed into by another car and "broke his leg", that is the way out for him not to wrestle. I can see it now. Vince chooses Batista to represent him at WM26 and Bret chooses John Cena.
Or they could be setting up the story to be told during a future match. Bret is from the school that could do that. Picture this: Bret ends up in a match with someone. His leg is still not 100% and maybe by this time he’s graduated to wearing a brace. The bum leg would serve to legitimize the slower/more limited work rate compared to the last time we saw Bret in a match (people remember others as they last saw them).[Smarks will criticize Bret’s current ability regardless, while casual fans from that time will accept the story line of the injured leg, attributing the match’s quality to it.] Okay, back to the match: The announcers will keep subtly reminding fans of the brace’s hindrance, suggesting that Bret’s signature move will be of no help to him tonight. He struggles his way through the match. Now…the emotional highlight of the match: Underdog Bret finally gains the upper hand. He dramatically tears off the brace. Against all odds, he barely & painfully applies the sharpshooter – THE MOST SIGNIFICANT SHARPSHOOTER HE’S EVER APPLIED! Victory! That "has-been" match could easily outshine all others on the card because of its emotion and the story it told. Think back to Fred Blassie’s last WWF appearance when he came out in a wheelchair. Remember the enormous pop he got when he stood up out of the chair? Hundreds of millions of people stand up from a chair every day, and it means nothing. 30 seconds of setup time made Blassie’s standing receive a standing ovation from the crowd. They could do the same thing with Bret. |
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« Reply #53 on: February 17, 2010, 11:27:08 AM » |
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Or they could be setting up the story to be told during a future match. Bret is from the school that could do that.
Picture this:
Bret ends up in a match with someone. His leg is still not 100% and maybe by this time he’s graduated to wearing a brace.
The bum leg would serve to legitimize the slower/more limited work rate compared to the last time we saw Bret in a match (people remember others as they last saw them).
[Smarks will criticize Bret’s current ability regardless, while casual fans from that time will accept the story line of the injured leg, attributing the match’s quality to it.]
Okay, back to the match:
The announcers will keep subtly reminding fans of the brace’s hindrance, suggesting that Bret’s signature move will be of no help to him tonight. He struggles his way through the match.
Now…the emotional highlight of the match: Underdog Bret finally gains the upper hand. He dramatically tears off the brace. Against all odds, he barely & painfully applies the sharpshooter – THE MOST SIGNIFICANT SHARPSHOOTER HE’S EVER APPLIED! Victory!
That "has-been" match could easily outshine all others on the card because of its emotion and the story it told.
Think back to Fred Blassie’s last WWF appearance when he came out in a wheelchair. Remember the enormous pop he got when he stood up out of the chair?
Hundreds of millions of people stand up from a chair every day, and it means nothing.
30 seconds of setup time made Blassie’s standing receive a standing ovation from the crowd.
They could do the same thing with Bret.
Wouldn't it be amazing if Bret got Vince in a sharpshooter? Lol... that would be priceless. |
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« Reply #54 on: February 17, 2010, 11:47:58 AM » |
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In all likelihood, I fully expect that's who it would be.
That’s one more reason I think they did the leg injury angle – to begin to set that up.
Vince is in the “over 60” club and Bret has had his share of setbacks - being medically cleared to wrestle does not mean you can all of the sudden work in the ring like you did 20 years ago.
The setup I believe is happening will provide the “forgiveness” for not putting on a match to rival those of Bret’s prime.
And with the proper buildup, yes – Bret [to be] putting Vince in the sharpshooter will draw good numbers – particularly with all of the real life drama & tension from their past.
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« Reply #55 on: February 17, 2010, 09:54:30 PM » |
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Wrestlemania:
Cena wins elimination chamber and WWE strap. Vince mcmahon gives Batista a title shot against Cena at Wrestlemania. Edge gets involve and says that he wants to challange Cena for the strap since he won the royal rumble.
Cena Vs Batista Vs Edge (Triple Threat for WWE strap)
John Morrison sells his ankle injury and is pulled from elimination chamber, and is replaced by Shawn Michaels. Shawn wins Heavyweight strap. Plays mind games with Undertaker since undertaker didnt want to face him at wrestlemania when he was champ. Finally Michaels ups the ante and only fights undertaker if he agrees to a career for belt match
Taker Vs shawn michaels (World heavyweight title for career match.
Mysterio gets sick of the straight edge society putting the fans down, cuts a promo speaking against the straight edge society, starts Mysterio Punk feud.
CM punk vs mysterio (hair vs mask)
some thoughts or wishes for wrestlemania
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« Reply #56 on: February 18, 2010, 02:28:57 AM » |
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Wrestlemania:
Cena wins elimination chamber and WWE strap. Vince mcmahon gives Batista a title shot against Cena at Wrestlemania. Edge gets involve and says that he wants to challange Cena for the strap since he won the royal rumble.
Cena Vs Batista Vs Edge (Triple Threat for WWE strap)
John Morrison sells his ankle injury and is pulled from elimination chamber, and is replaced by Shawn Michaels. Shawn wins Heavyweight strap. Plays mind games with Undertaker since undertaker didnt want to face him at wrestlemania when he was champ. Finally Michaels ups the ante and only fights undertaker if he agrees to a career for belt match
Taker Vs shawn michaels (World heavyweight title for career match.
Mysterio gets sick of the straight edge society putting the fans down, cuts a promo speaking against the straight edge society, starts Mysterio Punk feud.
CM punk vs mysterio (hair vs mask)
some thoughts or wishes for wrestlemania
Where's HHH fit into all of this? |
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« Reply #57 on: February 18, 2010, 06:20:27 AM » |
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Where's HHH fit into all of this?
My thoughts exactly. Plus again, I don't think they will make Undertaker fight Michaels again. They will have to one up their match last year which is impossible to do. The match will have lost its sizzle. |
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« Reply #58 on: February 18, 2010, 08:04:23 AM » |
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I can't see them giving Shawn a title run. As long as we don't see Edge vs Cena again, I don't really mind. HHH vs HBK would be cool, especially with a retirement angle.
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« Reply #59 on: February 18, 2010, 09:48:47 AM » |
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I can't see them giving Shawn a title run. As long as we don't see Edge vs Cena again, I don't really mind. HHH vs HBK would be cool, especially with a retirement angle.
I believe it's gonna be Cena/Animal this year. I refuse to watch Cena against Orton or Edge ever again. I cannot see Edge facing Undertaker? It will be hard for Undertaker/HBK to top their lasts years match but I believe they can do it! These are the two best guys we got! And nobody turns it on come Mania time like Undertaker and Boy Toy. I would like to see it again and see what these guys bring to the table. The only thing that puts doubt in my mind about the rematch is HHH. Where does he fit in. He's still one of our biggest stars. Taker faces Shawn again whats gonna happen with HHH? |
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« Reply #60 on: February 18, 2010, 10:12:20 AM » |
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I believe it's gonna be Cena/Animal this year. I refuse to watch Cena against Orton or Edge ever again. I cannot see Edge facing Undertaker? It will be hard for Undertaker/HBK to top their lasts years match but I believe they can do it! These are the two best guys we got! And nobody turns it on come Mania time like Undertaker and Boy Toy. I would like to see it again and see what these guys bring to the table. The only thing that puts doubt in my mind about the rematch is HHH. Where does he fit in. He's still one of our biggest stars. Taker faces Shawn again whats gonna happen with HHH?
I'm still confident that we will see a HHH vs Shawn Michaels match of some sort at WM. I have a funny feeling we'll see jericho, edge & Undertaker in a triple threat match and Cena vs Batista with the Hart / VKM angle worked into play. That's my prediction. |
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« Reply #61 on: February 18, 2010, 02:26:37 PM » |
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I'm still confident that we will see a HHH vs Shawn Michaels match of some sort at WM. I have a funny feeling we'll see jericho, edge & Undertaker in a triple threat match and Cena vs Batista with the Hart / VKM angle worked into play. That's my prediction.
How many matches you figure there's gonna be? Sheamus has to have a match. Plus one Divas match. The Tag belts. The IC belt. Legacy has to have a match somehow. Plus CM Punk. Jericho has to be worked in somehow? Any chance of him winning the title and then facing Edge at Mania? I think the only match so far for certain is Batista/Cena. |
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« Reply #62 on: February 18, 2010, 06:17:53 PM » |
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I'm still confident that we will see a HHH vs Shawn Michaels match of some sort at WM. I have a funny feeling we'll see jericho, edge & Undertaker in a triple threat match and Cena vs Batista with the Hart / VKM angle worked into play. That's my prediction.
That could definitely happen. The good thing about this year is that there are so many different ways they can go. |
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« Reply #63 on: February 19, 2010, 06:58:25 AM » |
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How many matches you figure there's gonna be? Sheamus has to have a match. Plus one Divas match. The Tag belts. The IC belt. Legacy has to have a match somehow. Plus CM Punk. Jericho has to be worked in somehow? Any chance of him winning the title and then facing Edge at Mania? I think the only match so far for certain is Batista/Cena.
Well Cheftim, here's my predictions: Cena vs Batista (in a VKM / Hart) angle. Bret in Cena's corner, VKM in Batista's corner. HHH vs Shawn Michaels Edge vs Jericho (as champion. I think he'll win at elimination chamber) vs Undertaker in a triple threat match. This would work well considering the Undertaker is very hurting with a bad hip that requires a hip replacement so it would take the stress off the Undertaker. Show & Miz defend the tag titles against MVP & Mark Henry A money in the bank match with other stars like Matt Hardy, Shelton Bejimen, Christian, Dolph Ziggler etc. Drew Mcentyre defends the IC title against Probably John Morrison. A diva's title match. Probably Mickey James against Michelle McCool (no one really cares here) There you have it. Mind you anything can happen or change but that's my call. |
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« Reply #64 on: February 21, 2010, 01:13:30 PM » |
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Well Cheftim, here's my predictions:
Cena vs Batista (in a VKM / Hart) angle. Bret in Cena's corner, VKM in Batista's corner.
HHH vs Shawn Michaels
Edge vs Jericho (as champion. I think he'll win at elimination chamber) vs Undertaker in a triple threat match. This would work well considering the Undertaker is very hurting with a bad hip that requires a hip replacement so it would take the stress off the Undertaker.
Show & Miz defend the tag titles against MVP & Mark Henry
A money in the bank match with other stars like Matt Hardy, Shelton Bejimen, Christian, Dolph Ziggler etc.
Drew Mcentyre defends the IC title against Probably John Morrison.
A diva's title match. Probably Mickey James against Michelle McCool (no one really cares here)
There you have it. Mind you anything can happen or change but that's my call.
Legacy needs a match some place as well as CM Punk. What about Rey Rey? |
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« Reply #65 on: February 22, 2010, 05:39:12 AM » |
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Legacy needs a match some place as well as CM Punk. What about Rey Rey?
I also forgot to mention: Orton vs Sheamus....not sure what they'll do with Legacy and Ray will probably be in the money in the bank match. |
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« Reply #66 on: February 22, 2010, 12:08:14 PM » |
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I also forgot to mention:
Orton vs Sheamus....not sure what they'll do with Legacy and Ray will probably be in the money in the bank match. Rumor is there wont be a MITB match this Wrestlemania since WWE is going to have an all MITB PPV coming soon |
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« Reply #67 on: February 22, 2010, 06:45:48 PM » |
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I think we'll see the destruction of Legacy over the coming weeks, culminating with some kind of match at WM. I don't want to see Sheamus in any kind of main event match either. I can see him teaming up with Orton against Legacy at some point soon.
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« Reply #68 on: February 22, 2010, 08:23:54 PM » |
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HBK is gonna bring down the house at Wrestlemania and set the standard once again.
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« Reply #69 on: February 23, 2010, 06:22:57 AM » |
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The updated WM26 card as per the leaks on the internet:
CONFIRMED MATCHES:
* Money In The Bank Ladder Match: Christian vs…?
* Career vs. Streak: Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker
* WWE Title Match: Batista © vs. John Cena
* World Title Match: Chris Jericho © vs. Edge
RUMORED MATCHES:
* Bret Hart vs. Vince McMahon (Street Fight)
* Triple H vs. Sheamus
* Randy Orton vs. Cody Rhodes vs. Ted Dibiase (Fathers Of All Three Men In Their Corners)
* Divas Match
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« Reply #70 on: February 23, 2010, 12:01:58 PM » |
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Hey we all know HBK is one of Chef Timmys favorites. But this match at Mania is for history and HBKs legacy. No way he's gonna beat the streak. He's gonna set the standard though yet again. Mr. Wrestlemania Shawn Michaels is going to give us the best match of his career then retire. But stay retired? No chance of that one happening. I cannot wait for this one!
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« Reply #71 on: February 23, 2010, 01:00:54 PM » |
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Hey we all know HBK is one of Chef Timmys favorites. But this match at Mania is for history and HBKs legacy. No way he's gonna beat the streak. He's gonna set the standard though yet again. Mr. Wrestlemania Shawn Michaels is going to give us the best match of his career then retire. But stay retired? No chance of that one happening. I cannot wait for this one!
It will be a tough one to call. If the streak ends, it will tarnish the Undertaker and if Michaels looses, his career is done. Both stand to lose lots there. Personally from years of watching experience I can't see michaels loosing twice in a row. We could all be wrong and maybe something will happen with outside interference that will "hurt" both wrestlers as both are schedualed to take time off until Summerslam. |
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« Reply #72 on: February 23, 2010, 01:18:07 PM » |
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It will be a tough one to call. If the streak ends, it will tarnish the Undertaker and if Michaels looses, his career is done. Both stand to lose lots there. Personally from years of watching experience I can't see michaels loosing twice in a row. We could all be wrong and maybe something will happen with outside interference that will "hurt" both wrestlers as both are schedualed to take time off until Summerslam.
No way Undertaker would give up his streak to HBK. I love HBK. But honestly I'd rather see Undertaker retire with the streak in tact. Thats all he has. Shawns Legacy is already rock solid. It really doesn't matter if Shawn wins or looses. It's all about his performance. And he's gonna bring it that night. Both these guys are gonna give us the best match of their lives. Gonna be a great one! |
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« Reply #73 on: February 23, 2010, 01:27:25 PM » |
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No way Undertaker would give up his streak to HBK. I love HBK. But honestly I'd rather see Undertaker retire with the streak in tact. Thats all he has. Shawns Legacy is already rock solid. It really doesn't matter if Shawn wins or looses. It's all about his performance. And he's gonna bring it that night. Both these guys are gonna give us the best match of their lives. Gonna be a great one!
I honestly thought HBK was gonna say on Raw last night, "Undertaker, I want you in your own playground. A buried alive match!" How great would that have been. A buried alive match between these two phenomenal stars on the biggest stage. Can you imagine? I am counting on a phenomenal match here, no doubt. I have to say though, I think HBK will do it. I can't see him loosing twice in a row unless there is some sort of outside interference that costs both men the match, thus keeping the streak and Michaels' career alive. |
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« Reply #74 on: February 23, 2010, 09:36:16 PM » |
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I really can't see Taker allowing Shawn to take the streak. The biggest thing of his whole career, a record that will never be repeated, and he's gonna give it away to Michaels? I'll be very disappointed if he does, cos I don't think Shawn deserves it.
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