The entitlement complex of some bodybuilders.

[Tapeworm]

It is not just bodybuilders.  Everyone feels entitled these days; every one thinks they deserve more money—and to some degree they resent others who make more.  If you think you a worth more then leave… and go get it.  You can easily be replaced.

I knew you were dating women on the sly!

[just_a_pilgrim]

I think I should say  "eventually", it would build up to 1 milli. Like Shawn Ray had said, surfers and BMX bikers make more than the winner of the Arnold.
    

Lot more kids into Surfing or BMX riding.

[Matt C]

That said, your argument could be used in any business then...and begins the decline in a "working relationship". I guess if the people working in factory A dont like their wage, well, they should just get another job, right?

Yes that is right.  How is it "fair" to increase the wage of someone working at a factory while a person sits unemployed and is willing to work for the regular pay?  How is that "fair" to the one who has no job?

No one is using a cattle prod to force these bodybuilders to step on stage.  Most of them just want to be jacked as it is, so the only thing they do which they wouldn't otherwise do is the dieting.  But my point is, if they don't think bodybuilding pays enough, they can find another job.  There is no money in bodybuilding.

It is not just bodybuilders.  Everyone feels entitled these days; every one thinks they deserve more money—and to some degree they resent others who make more.  If you think you a worth more then leave… and go get it.  You can easily be replaced.

Very true.

[Marty Champions]

most bodybuilders just cant accept looking decent so they have to juice there brains out even in the face of side effects

they think they can just magically entitle themselves .

as for myself id love to be shredded but i dont feel entitled to it

[Mr Nobody]

most bodybuilders just cant accept looking decent so they have to juice there brains out even in the face of side effects

they think they can just magically entitle themselves .

as for myself id love to be shredded but i dont feel entitled to it

Nice Falcon, many are dead by 40.

[Flexb]

I'm shocked they make what they make these days from endorsements. The fact that about 20 or more of these guys can actually bodybuild as a career is pretty amazing, while having no forms of real jobs.

[jwb]

Nice Falcon, many are dead by 40.

you think falcon will make 40?

[Mr Nobody]

you think falcon will make 40?

With experimentation on the human body anything can happen but I would so.

[Relentless]

I laughed when Shawn Ray used to whine about bodybuilders who competed at the Ironman being oppressed because they weren't being paid enough.    Yeah, because someone is forcing them to step on stage and compete for peanuts right?  

I laughed when Victor Martinez commented that bodybuilding.com should give money back to the bodybuilders because they are so successful.

I laughed when Steve Namat and GetItOnNY made similar comments that successful supplement companies should sponsor athletes bodybuilders with more money or that MD should pay money for photo shoots.  

Please - if you don't like the terms then just get lost.  No one is forcing you to be a bodybuilder and to step on stage in a greasy thong and pose [no homo].  If you don't like the lack of money in the industry you are free to find another one.  The audacity of these guys talking about getting paid more by private businesses as if it is a human right or something.  

Yes, most bodybuilders are stupid when it comes to financial IQ.  There are few "sports" that require such an investment of time and energy with very little payout.  This is why most intelligent people do not pursue bodybuilding as a career choice.

[Chick]

Yes, most bodybuilders are stupid when it comes to financial IQ.  There are few "sports" that require such an investment of time and energy with very little payout.  This is why most intelligent people do not pursue bodybuilding as a career choice.

Heres a newsflash for you...most (if not all) pro Bbers didn't begin BB as a "career choice". What happens 99.9% of the time is a guy starts lifting weight by whatever means they are introduced to it...finds himself making good gains, is introduced to competitive BB, finds himself competing...does well...gradually moves up the ladder winning local, regional, state, National titles....wins his pro card.

Opportunity then presents itself by way of sponsorsip by said company, and the BB finds himself in a position to make a good living from it.

ALL pro BBers share one inherent quality...NONE of us started BB for the money.

[Relentless]

Heres a newsflash for you...most (if not all) pro Bbers didn't begin BB as a "career choice". What happens 99.9% of the time is a guy starts lifting weight by whatever means they are introduced to it...finds himself making good gains, is introduced to competitive BB, finds himself competing...does well...gradually moves up the ladder winning local, regional, state, National titles....wins his pro card.

Opportunity then presents itself by way of sponsorsip by said company, and the BB finds himself in a position to make a good living from it.

ALL pro BBers share one inherent quality...NONE of us started BB for the money.

That's correct - and VERY few have benefited much financially from the whole experience, Chick.  You are certainly an exception to the rule, as are people like Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman.  However, for the amount of time and effort one puts into the endeavor could have been spend learning a technical skill or attaining more education in a field that would provide better financial means. 

You are an intelligent guy whose made nice coin from BB, but you're also the antithesis of the majority of bodybuilders.

[Flexb]

That's correct - and VERY few have benefited much financially from the whole experience, Chick.  You are certainly an exception to the rule, as are people like Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman.  However, for the amount of time and effort one puts into the endeavor could have been spend learning a technical skill or attaining more education in a field that would provide better financial means. 

You are an intelligent guy whose made nice coin from BB, but you're also the antithesis of the majority of bodybuilders.

Yes, but what's the point if your heart isn't in it or have a passion for it? There's nothing better than making money for something you love to do. Better to make 50 thousand a year doing something you love than make 100 thousand a year hating what you do.

[Matt C]

I don't want to say that all bodybuilders are stupid or anything, but then I do have to question the mentality of grown men who feel the need to jack themselves up into supermen by constantly taking steroids and other performance enhancing drugs.

Pros like Lee Priest, Paul Dillett, Steve Namat, etc, think that supplement companies have millions of dollars which they are somehow entitled to. 

No different than hippies who think the problems in the world can just magically go away if "the powers that be" just decided to make them go away.  A totally naive and ignorant view of the world.

[Chick]

That's correct - and VERY few have benefited much financially from the whole experience, Chick.  You are certainly an exception to the rule, as are people like Jay Cutler and Ronnie Coleman.  However, for the amount of time and effort one puts into the endeavor could have been spend learning a technical skill or attaining more education in a field that would provide better financial means. 

You are an intelligent guy whose made nice coin from BB, but you're also the antithesis of the majority of bodybuilders.

You're forgetting one thing...you make it sound like its an all or nothing deal....most of these guy work some type of job as well AND pursue their BB goals at the same time. 

[Matt C]

You're forgetting one thing...you make it sound like its an all or nothing deal....most of these guy work some type of job as well AND pursue their BB goals at the same time. 

Which is smart for those who do.  A bodybuilder who is good enough to qualify for the Olympia every year [even if only to place last] should have the skills required to rake in $80,000 per year exclusively from bodybuilding.

[Relentless]

You're forgetting one thing...you make it sound like its an all or nothing deal....most of these guy work some type of job as well AND pursue their BB goals at the same time. 

Yes, but it's difficult to truly excel when time/energy are divided between two careers.  It's almost impossible to have a meaningful professional career while pursuing bodybuilding as well.

[calfzilla]

Heres a newsflash for you...most (if not all) pro Bbers didn't begin BB as a "career choice". What happens 99.9% of the time is a guy starts lifting weight by whatever means they are introduced to it...finds himself making good gains, is introduced to competitive BB, finds himself competing...does well...gradually moves up the ladder winning local, regional, state, National titles....wins his pro card.

Opportunity then presents itself by way of sponsorsip by said company, and the BB finds himself in a position to make a good living from it.

ALL pro BBers share one inherent quality...NONE of us started BB for the money.

...and drugs.  You forgot to mention bodybuilding drugs.  Your welcome. 

[James Blunt]

Bodybuilding was better when it wasn't really about money at all. I think that adds to the greatness of the early times. It wasn't about a dollar, it was competition. .

[io856]

Bodybuilding was better when it wasn't really about money at all. I think that adds to the greatness of the early times. It wasn't about a dollar, it was competition. .

yes it was pretty cool when bodybuilding was a bunch of white guys not doing it for intimidation or money purposes

[Chick]

Yes, but it's difficult to truly excel when time/energy are divided between two careers.  It's almost impossible to have a meaningful professional career while pursuing bodybuilding as well.

Almost all of the pr's have balanced both, until opportunity presented itself making it a choice to be able to focus on one or the other...including Ronnie himself who was a full time deputy while being the current Mr. Olympia...

[rockyfortune]

Almost all of the pr's have balanced both, until opportunity presented itself making it a choice to be able to focus on one or the other...including Ronnie himself who was a full time deputy while being the current Mr. Olympia...

i always wondered how a guy who was filling his extremities with illegal substances held a job as a police officer...

[Chick]

i always wondered how a guy who was filling his extremities with illegal substances held a job as a police officer...

 this is something you really wonder about?

Here is another example...Mark Dugdale, owns ans runs his own produce company....are you wondering about that too?

[rockyfortune]

this is something you really wonder about?

Here is another example...Mark Dugdale, owns ans runs his own produce company....are you wondering about that too?

yep..i wondered about it...

who is mark dugdale? 

damn bob..a bit edgy this morning? go have your coffee big guy..maybe kiss the wife. 

[Chick]

yep..i wondered about it...

who is mark dugdale? 

damn bob..a bit edgy this morning? go have your coffee big guy..maybe kiss the wife. 

Nevermind...your second question sums it all up.

[Marty Champions]

bob we forgive you for the early years when you were in the mags and us as teenagers would contemplate if you were natural or not and leaving us to suspicion