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OK how does he manage  have 16 differnet SS#'s, no birth certificate that anyone has seen, and not only get through everyday life in the US but be elected to several different offices without anyone blinking an eye. I don't buy into the whole CT thing, but something isn't right here.

It happens.

People are caught every year practicing as a Medical Doctor in the US, who not only don't have a License, but have never even gone to medical School.

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Team KP probably does not even know about the SS Number issue.   

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Obama's confusion extends to birth date
WND ^ | January 23, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi




A much-overlooked comment by Barack Obama is getting a closer examination now that Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie has come up short in his plan to take care of a pressing election 2012 concern for the Democrats by producing Obama's birth certificate from the state's archives.

It was the comment by Obama himself at a 2009 international meeting that he was born eight months earlier than when his official story has claimed all along.

Freudian slip, confusion or the truth leaking out?

It was in April 19, 2009, at a press conference Obama gave at the Port of Spain in Trinidad and Tobago, Obama commented on a 90-minute diatribe that had been delivered by Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega at the meeting the day before, and Obama suggested he was born in January 1961, three months before the Bay of Pigs invasion.

Specifically, Obama rejected Ortega's attack on the United States for the attempted Bay of Pigs invasion during the Kennedy administration by explaining: "I'm grateful President Ortega did not blame me for things that happened when I was three months old."


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In order to have been registered for school, wouldn't he have needed his birth cert, and SSN?

No, just his green card.

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BORN IN THE USA?

Game-changer! Arizona to pass 2012 eligibility law
Obama will have to produce birth certificate to run again

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Posted: January 25, 2011
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By Bob Unruh
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It could be a game-changer.

A plan in Arizona to require presidential candidates to prove their eligibility to occupy the Oval Office is approaching critical mass, even though it has just been introduced.

The proposal from state Rep. Judy Burges, who carried a similar plan that fell short last year only because of political maneuvering, was introduced yesterday with 16 members of the state Senate as co-sponsors.

It needs only 16 votes in the Senate to pass.

In the House, there are 25 co-sponsors, with the need for only 31 votes for passage, and Burges told WND that there were several chamber members who confirmed they support the plan and will vote for it, but simply didn't wish to be listed as co-sponsors.

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The proposal, which also is being taken up in a number of other states, is highly specific and directly addresses the questions that have been raised by Barack Obama's occupancy of the White House. It says:

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Within ten days after submittal of the names of the candidates, the national political party committee shall submit an affidavit of the presidential candidate in which the presidential candidate states the candidate's citizenship and age and shall append to the affidavit documents that prove that the candidate is a natural born citizen, prove the candidate's age and prove that the candidate meets the residency requirements for President of the United States as prescribed in article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States.
The critical phrases are "natural born citizen" and the requirements of "article II, section 1, Constitution of the United States," which imposes on the president a requirement not demanded of other state and federal officeholders.

At the time the Constitution was written, many analysts agree, a "natural born citizen" was considered to be a citizen born of two citizen parents. If that indeed is correct, Obama never would have been qualified to be president, as he himself has confirmed his father was a Kenyan subject to the jurisdiction of the United Kingdom, making Obama a dual citizen with Kenyan and American parentage at his birth.

Other definitions have called for a "natural born citizen" to be born of citizen parents inside the nation.

There have been dozens of lawsuits and challenges over the fact that Obama's "natural born citizen" status never has been documented. The "Certification of Live Birth" his campaign posted online is a document that Hawaii has made available to those not born in the state.

The controversy stems from the Constitution, Article 2, Section 1, which states, "No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President."

The challenges to Obama's eligibility allege he does not qualify because he was not born in Hawaii in 1961 as he claims, or that he fails to qualify because he was a dual citizen, through his father, of the U.S. and the United Kingdom's Kenyan terroritory when he was born and the framers of the Constitution specifically excluded dual citizens from eligibility.

There are several cases still pending before the courts over Obama's eligibility. Those cases, however, almost all have been facing hurdles created by the courts' interpretation of "standing," meaning someone who is being or could be harmed by the situation. The courts have decided almost unanimously that an individual taxpayer faces no damages different from other taxpayers, therefore doesn't have standing. Judges even have ruled that other presidential candidates are in that position.

The result is that none of the court cases to date has reached the level of discovery, through which Obama's birth documentation could be brought into court.

Obama even continued to withhold the information during a court-martial of a military officer, Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin, who challenged his deployment orders on the grounds Obama may not be a legitimate president. Lakin was convicted and sent to prison.

Burges told WND she's asked the proposal to be assigned to the Government Committee.

"I think every American should consider it of prime importance to ensure that all candidates for the highest elected position in our nation meet all constitutional requirements," she told WND. "We do not accept the federal government's unconstitutional treatment of states as one of their extended branches."

The Arizona bill also requires attachments, "which shall be sworn to under penalty of perjury," including "an original long form birth certificate that includes the date and place of birth, the names of the hospital and the attending physician and signatures of the witnesses in attendance."

It also requires testimony that the candidate "has not held dual or multiple citizenship and that the candidate's allegiance is solely to the United States of America."

"If both the candidate and the national political party committee for that candidate fail to submit and swear to the documents prescribed in this section, the secretary of state shall not place that presidential candidate's name on the ballot in this state," the state plan explains.

The governor's office is occupied by Republican Jan Brewer, who has had no difficulty in bringing direct challenges to Washington, such as a year ago when lawmakers adopted provisions that allowed state law enforcement officers to enforce federal immigration law. The state's move prompted an immediate court challenge by Washington.

WND also has reported that similar efforts are under way in Montana, Pennsylvania, Georgia and Texas:

Montana

Under Montana's plan by Rep. Bob Wagner, candidates would have to document their eligibility and also provide for protection for state taxpayers to prevent them from being billed for "unnecessary expense and litigation" involving the failure of 'federal election officials' to do their duty.

"There should be no question after the fact as to the qualifications [of a president]," Wagner told WND. "The state of Montana needs to have [legal] grounds to sue for damages for the cost of litigation."

Wagner's legislation cites the Constitution's requirement that the president hold "natural born citizenship" and the fact that the "military sons and daughters of the people of Montana and all civil servants to the people of Montana are required by oath to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States and Montana against enemies foreign and domestic."

But there are estimates of up to $2 million being spent on Obama's defense against eligibility lawsuits. There have been dozens of them and some have been running for more than two years. So Wagner goes a step beyond.

"Whereas, it would seem only right and just to positively certify eligibility for presidential and congressional office at the federal level; and whereas, it is apparent that the federal authority is negligent in the matter; therefore, the responsibility falls upon the state; and whereas, this act would safeguard the people of Montana from unnecessary expense and litigation and the possibility that federal election officials fail in their duty and would ensure that the State of Montana remains true to the Constitution," says his proposed legislation.

Pennsylvania

In Pennsylvania, there was excitement over the GOP majority of both houses of the state legislature as well as the governor's office.

Assemblyman Daryl Metcalfe told WND he is working on a proposal that would demand documentation of constitutional eligibility.

He described it as a "problem" that there has been no established procedure for making sure that presidential candidates meet the Constitution's requirements for age, residency and being a "natural born citizen."

"We hope we would be able to pass this legislation and put it into law before the next session," he said.

He said any one of the states imposing such a requirement would be effective in solving his concerns.

"I think the public relations nightmare that would ensue if any candidate would thumb their noses at a single state would torpedo their campaign," he told WND.

Georgia

Rep. Mark Hatfield has confirmed to WND that he will have a similar proposal pending.

He had introduced the legislation at the end of last year's session to put fellow lawmakers on alert that the issue was coming.

"I do plan to reintroduce the bill," he told WND. "We'll move forward with trying to get it before a committee."

In Georgia, Republicans hold majorities in both houses of the legislature as well as "every constitutional statewide office," he noted.

"I would be optimistic that we can [adopt the legislation]," he said.

Hatfield said if only one or two states adopt such requirements, it readily will be apparent whether a candidate has issues with eligibility documentation or not. And while he noted a president could win a race without support from a specific state, a failure to qualify on the ballot "would give voters in other states pause, about whether or not a candidate is in fact qualified," he said.

"My goal is to make sure any person that aspires to be president meets the constitutional requirements," he said. "This is a first step in that direction."

Texas

WND reported on a bill prefiled for the Texas Legislature by Rep. Leo Berman, R-Tyler, that would require such documentation.

Berman's legislation, House Bill 295, is brief and simple:

It would add to the state election code the provision: "The secretary of state may not certify the name of a candidate for president or vice-president unless the candidate has presented the candidate's original birth certificate indicating that the person is a natural-born United States citizen."

It includes an effective date of Sept. 1, 2011, in time for 2012 presidential campaigning.


State Rep. Leo Berman

Berman told WND he's seen neither evidence nor indication that Obama qualifies under the Constitution's requirement that a president be a "natural-born citizen."

"If the federal government is not going to vet these people, like they vetted John McCain, we'll do it in our state," he said.

He noted the Senate's investigation into McCain because of the Republican senator's birth in Panama to military parents.

Berman also said there will be pressure on any lawmaker who opposes the bill, since voters would wonder why they wouldn't want such basic data about a president revealed. And he said even if one state adopts the requirement, there will be national implications, because other states would be alerted to a possible problem.

"If Obama is going to run for re-election in 2012, he'll have to show our secretary of state his birth certificate and prove he's a natural-born citizen," he said. "This is going to be significant."

Berman said he's convinced there are problems with Obama's eligibility, or else his handlers would not be so persistent in keeping the information concealed.

A year ago, polls indicated that roughly half of American voters were aware of a dispute over Obama's eligibility. Recent polls, however, by organizations including CNN, show that roughly six in 10 American voters hold serious doubts that Obama is eligible under the Constitution's demands.

Other state plans also might be in the works but unannounced yet. Officials with the Denver-based National Conference of State Legislatures said they were not tracking bills in development.

But Orly Taitz, the California lawyer who has worked on a number of the highest-profile legal challenges to Obama, said efforts are under way now in Missouri and Oklahoma, too.

She said the bill is expected to be successful in Missouri where there is a GOP majority in the legislature and a GOP governor's office, and in Oklahoma, where last year a similar plan failed by only one vote in the state Senate.

She encouraged residents of Tennessee, New Hampshire, South Dakota, California, Maine, New Mexico, South Carolina, Virginia, New Jersey and Iowa to contact their lawmakers, as there has been some interest expressed.

"We need eligibility bills filed in each and every state of the union … as it shows the regime that we are still the nation of law and the Constitution, that the Constitution matters and state representatives and senators are ready to fight for the rule of law. During the last election there were some 700 more Republican state assemblyman elected all over the country, as the nation is not willing to tolerate this assault on our rights and our Constitution any further," she said.

Last year, several other states listened to proposals that could have had an impact on eligibility documentation. In New Hampshire, officials wanted to require candidates to meet the "qualifications contained in the U.S. Constitution." In Oklahoma, lawmakers heard a plan to let voters decide the issue, and in South Carolina, the plan was to prevent candidates from being on the ballot unless "that person shows conclusive evidence that he is a legal citizen of the United States."

Further, several other states discussed requirements for candidates, but they did not specifically address the Article 2, Section 1 constitutional compliance, so it's unclear whether they would have addressed Obama's situation.

There also was, during the last Congress, Rep. Bill Posey's bill at the federal level.

Posey's H.R. 1503 stated:

"To amend the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 to require the principal campaign committee of a candidate for election to the office of President to include with the committee's statement of organization a copy of the candidate's birth certificate, together with such other documentation as may be necessary to establish that the candidate meets the qualifications for eligibility to the Office of President under the Constitution."
The bill also provided:

"Congress finds that under … the Constitution of the United States, in order to be eligible to serve as President, an individual must be a natural born citizen of the United States who has attained the age of 35 years and has been a resident within the United States for at least 14 years."
It had more than a dozen sponsors, and while it died at the end of the last Congress, there are hopes the GOP majority in the House this year will move such a plan forward.

There also is a petition, already signed by tens of thousands, to state lawmakers asking them to make sure the next president of the United States qualifies under the Constitution's eligibility requirements.

"What we need are hundreds of thousands of Americans endorsing this strategy on the petition – encouraging more action by state officials before the 2012 election. Imagine if just one or two states adopt such measures before 2012. Obama will be forced to comply with those state regulations or forgo any effort to get on the ballot for re-election. Can Obama run and win without getting on all 50 state ballots? I don't think so," said Joseph Farah, CEO of WND, who is behind the idea of the petition.

An earlier petition had been directed at all controlling legal authorities at the federal level to address the concerns expressed by Americans, and it attracted more than half a million names.

For 18 months, Farah has been one of the few national figures who has steadfastly pushed the issue of eligibility, despite ridicule, name-calling and ostracism at the hands of most of his colleagues. To date, in addition to the earlier petition, he has:


erected billboards around the country demanding, "Where's the birth certificate?":


produced a 40-page special report on the subject;


produced a 60-minute documentary video primer on the issue;


manufactured yard and rally signs to bring attention to the topic;


pledged to donate at least $15,000 to any hospital in Hawaii or anywhere else that provides proof Obama was born there and given you an opportunity to raise the amount;


created a line of T-shirts you can wear to appearances by the president to raise visibility of the issue;


created a fund to which you can donate to further the kind of investigative reporting into this matter only this company has performed over the last two years;


launched a line of postcards you can use to keep the issue alive;


distributed thousands of bumper stickers asking, "Where's the birth certificate?"
Farah says all those campaigns are continuing.

"Obama may be able to continue showing contempt for the Constitution and the rule of law for the next two years, as he has demonstrated his willingness to do in his first year in office," he wrote in a column. "However, a day of reckoning is coming. Even if only one significant state, with a sizable Electoral College count, decides a candidate for election or re-election has failed to prove his or her eligibility, that makes it nearly impossible for the candidate to win. It doesn't take all 50 states complying with the law to be effective."

If you are a member of the media and would like to interview Joseph Farah about this campaign, e-mail WND.



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WE'RE ALL BIRTHERS NOW: The Long-Form Obama Birth Certificate DOES NOT EXIST
Reaganite Republican ^ | January 26, 2011 | Reaganite Republican




Hawai'i election official's sworn affadavit:

"No Obama birth certificate exists"


ALL Americans who support our nation's Constitution and election laws must now ask: WHERE IS IT? As the Obama birth certificate controversy drags-on, any unbiased observer could tell you that events are strengthening the birthers' case by the day... not the other way around.


Oczam's razor theory dictates that if they can't find it... there must not be one. This would also provide the most viable explanation for why Obama has spent almost $2M fighting the claims in court. And to since it's a principle requirement for presidential eligibility... would someone please tell me WHY the burden of proof is on us? 

How'd this guy even get a passport without a long-form birth certificate, anyway...


"During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), "I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate."


As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health. "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government."


 
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Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu In a recorded telephone interview, Adams told WND that it was common knowledge among election officials where he worked that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at the Hawaii Department of Health. "My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady."


Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961." 

"We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."





The debate has been recently been amplified by Hawaii's weird hippy Governor Neil Abercrombie -a far-Left freak who was previously a member of the US House Progressive Caucus and a personal friend and college classmate of both of Obama's parents. Abercrombie  made an ill-advised claim during his 2010 gubernatorial campaign that he would soon put a rest to all this, stating he was on a  "mission" to "quell" the birthers- as the polemic has "implications for 2012 that we simply cannot have."


But there is no Obama birth certificate... there never was.  So now he's hiding behind Hawaii's state AG, who says there is a privacy law that prohibits Abercrombie from doing as he promised (unless Obama gave him permission, of course):


State Attorney General David Louie told the governor that privacy laws bar him from disclosing an individual’s birth documentation without the person’s consent, Abercrombie spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Friday.

“There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document,” said Dela Cruz.


“Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president.”


Conspirators! That's rich- but condescension and slander coming from nervous Dems does little to re-assure thinking persons that this man is acutally qualified to be US President: on the contrary, this defensive, diversionary behavior speaks volumes. Clearly those propping up this Trojan Horse of a president have nothing left but mocking the inquisitors- but as Margaret Thatcher once said: "... if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left." And indeed they do not-





Delving a little farther back, Obama even admitted himself that he wasn't qualified for the presidency in the 2004 Keyes-Obama Senate campaign debate, but the video of this was scrubbed from YouTube, according to Good Ole Boy at RealAmericanPolitics.

Keyes caught him off guard... and Obama spilled:


I watched the entire first and second debates.  I distinctly remember that I had never heard of Obama; my interest was in seeing what Keyes said about the pro-life issue and school vouchers.

At one point in the second debate, Keyes, accused Obama saying, “You are not even a natural born citizen!”
To which Obama immediately replied, “So what? I am running for Illinois Senator, not the presidency.”

At the end of the airing of the second debate, the C-Span host noted, as he read from a single sheet of paper, placed before him, that the Obama Campaign had contacted them and requested them to point out to their viewers that Obama’s response here should not be understood as a denial that he is a natural born citizen, only that Keyes’ accusation had nothing to do with the qualifications of office of a U.S. Senator...

Today... with even Chris Matthews saying "why not just put it out?"- I unapologetically throw my hat in with the birthers... time to cough it up or step-down, Barry. Even is some obscure court ruling keeps Obama in office... this man must not be allowed to run for re-election in 2012.


And when the day comes when we remove this tumor from the neck of the American eagle... Obama and his accomplices must be punished harshly for not just violation of oath, but the myriad crimes committed in covering-up lack of qualification for US president, up to and including perjury. And that means the entire Obama campaign team, lawyers, and most of the DNC... you're all going to pay dearly for this one.

Get on the stick, GOP congressman...
where's the subpoenas? 

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hahahahahahahaa the birthers are back man give it a break  :D :D :D :D

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hahahahahahahaa the birthers are back man give it a break  :D :D :D :D


Where is the long form BC?   

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i think he's from mars, i bet if rush or beck said so half these nuts would start repeating it ;D

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i think he's from mars, i bet if rush or beck said so half these nuts would start repeating it ;D

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A celebrity journalist now claims he misspoke when he said last week that Hawaii’s governor told him he was unable to find President Barack Obama’s original birth certificate after a search of state and hospital archives.

Mike Evans told FoxNews.com on Wednesday he was remorseful and embarrassed that he appeared to have given the impression that he had discussed the search for Obama’s birth certificate with Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie.

Evans, who says he has been a close friend of Abercrombie since the 1980s, appeared on Minnesota’s KQRS radio last week and said he’d been told by the governor himself that Obama’s birth certificate was nowhere to be found. Evans told KQRS on Jan. 20:

"Yesterday, talking to Neil's office, Neil says that he searched everywhere using his powers as governor ..... there is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii.  Absolutely no proof at all that he was born in Hawaii."

But that’s no longer Evans’ story.

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Last week’s radio interview was part of Evans’ syndicated five-minute feature, “On the Road with Mike Evans,” which is broadcast on 34 stations across the country each morning.

On the morning of Jan. 20, Evans says he accidentally told one of those radio stations -- KQRS -- that he’d spoken directly with Gov. Abercrombie about the Obama birth certificate.

“I was on 34 radio stations that morning. That was the only station where I said, instead of saying ‘the hospital said there’s no birth certificate’ I misspoke and said Neil said that,” Evans said. “I misspoke and I apologize for that. I apologize to Neil.”

Abercrombie’s spokeswoman did not respond to Fox News e-mail and phone requests for comment.

Evans says he first noticed the story on Jan. 18, when he was reading an online article with the headline, “Hawaii governor can't find Obama birth certificate.” The article cites an interview with a former Honolulu elections clerk who says records of Obama’s birth could not be found at either Honolulu hospital.

“Halfway down the story it said the long form certificate was not on file at the two hospitals,” Evans said. “It says the hospitals say there’s no birth certificate and says Neil says he couldn’t find it.”

Evans said he continued reading other reports online, including one that quotes a former Honolulu election official as saying no hospital has been able to find Obama’s original long form birth certificate.

Evans says he then placed a call to Abercrombie’s office in Hawaii to follow up on the reports.

“I called Neil, but Neil never called me back,” Evans told Fox News. “I haven’t talked to Neil since he’s been governor.”

In 2008, the Obama campaign provided a certification of live birth -- a shorter form document that bears the same legal weight as the more detailed original certificate of live birth -- to prove his eligibility to be president. That has not quelled calls by those who have asked for the president’s original, longer form birth certificate, which they maintain would more clearly prove his status as a natural-born American citizen.

The U.S. Constitution stipulates that only “a natural-born citizen,” or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of the President.”

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“It says the hospitals say there’s no birth certificate and says Neil says he couldn’t find it.”


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The COLB is a forgery as it is.   This story does not dispell anything.      Where is the long frm BC?   

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i don't think i have a long form bc maybe i'm from kenya ;D

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i don't think i have a long form bc maybe i'm from kenya ;D


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10 states now developing eligibility-proof demands (Obama)
wnd ^ | January 26, 2011 7:50 pm Eastern | Bob Unruh



107 Electoral College votes controlled by Arizona, Texas, Connecticut, others

Arizona may have the most advanced plan, but 10 of the United States – controlling 107 Electoral College votes – now are considering some type of legislation that would plug the hole in federal election procedures that in 2008 allowed Barack Obama to be nominated, elected and inaugurated without providing proof of his qualifications under the demands of the U.S. Constitution.

And they aren't all the simple legislation such as that adopted in New Hampshire a year ago that requires an affidavit from a candidate stating that the qualifications – age, residency and being a "natural born citizen" – have been met.

In Georgia, for example, HB37 by Rep. Bobby Franklin not only demands original birth certificate documentation, it provides a procedure for and declares that citizens have "standing" to challenge the documentation.

"Each political party shall provide for each candidate … original documentation that he meets the qualifications of Article, 2 Section 1, Paragraph 1, and Article 2, Section 1, Paragraph 5 of the United States Constitution to serve as president of the United States if elected to such office," it states

"Any citizen of this state shall have the right to challenge the qualifications of any such candidate within two weeks following the publication of the names of such candidates,"


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the SS# is the real issue. 

Argue about the BC.  But the SS is the one there is no dodging - specially if one was 70 years old ;)

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Hawaii lawmakers want release of Obama birth info
Associated Press ^ | Jan. 27, 2011 | MARK NIESSE



HONOLULU (AP) -- Five Hawaii Democratic representatives want to pass a law making President Barack Obama's birth records public and charge $100 to see them.


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HI bill would give anyone Obama birth info for fee

By MARK NIESSE
Associated Press


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HONOLULU (AP) -- Anyone would be able to get a copy of President Barack Obama's birth records for a $100 fee under a bill introduced in the state Legislature that backers hope will finally dispel claims he was born elsewhere.

The bill would change a privacy law barring the release of birth records unless the requester is someone with a tangible interest, such as a close family member.

The measure was introduced by five Democrats but has not yet been scheduled for a public hearing, a required step before it can move forward. A decision on considering the bill will be made by the House's Democratic leadership and committee chairmen.

The idea behind the measure is to end skepticism over Obama's birthplace while raising a little money for a government with a projected budget deficit exceeding $800 million over the next two years.

"If it passes, it will calm the birthers down," said the bill's primary sponsor, Rep. Rida Cabanilla. "All these people are still doubting it because they don't want the birth certificate from Obama. They want it from our state office."

So-called "birthers" claim there's no proof Obama was born in the United States, and he is therefore ineligible to be president. Many of the skeptics question whether he was actually born in Kenya, his father's home country.

The Obama campaign issued a certification of live birth in 2008, an official document from the state showing the president's Aug. 4, 1961, birth date, his birth city and name, and his parents' names and races.

Hawaii's former health director also has said she verified Obama's original records. And notices were published in two local newspapers within days of his birth at a Honolulu hospital.

Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who was a friend of Obama's parents and knew him as a child, said last month he wanted to release more of the state's birth information about Obama. But he ended the effort last week when the state attorney general told him that privacy laws bar disclosure of an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent.

The new legislation to release records may run into similar legal problems because of Hawaii's strong constitutional privacy protections, said Rep. John Mizuno, a co-sponsor of the bill.

"If people really want to confirm Barack Obama is born in Hawaii, that's fine," Mizuno said. "I don't have a problem with looking at innovative ways to bring revenue to the state. The taxpayers deserve a break."

The $100 fee would help offset the extra work by state employees who handle frequent phone calls and e-mails from people who believe Obama was born elsewhere, Cabanilla said.

But the number of birther requests has been declining from the 10 to 20 weekly inquiries received early last year, according to the Department of Health.

"Requests have decreased significantly over the years. Currently we receive anywhere from zero to five per week," said department spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The Health Department is still reviewing the bill, Okubo said.

House Health Committee Chairman Ryan Yamane didn't immediately return messages seeking comment on whether he would hold a hearing on the bill.

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Ha ha ha ha - I love it. 

Hey Bama - spend the $5 and release the damn thing already.   
 

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How can there be no birth certificate? Seriously, I have needed my birth certificate on more than a few occasions.

for what?
when you reach a certain age ( have a job, have a DI, have a passport, SSN ) I've never had to produce a BC since.
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for what?
when you reach a certain age ( have a job, have a DI, have a passport, SSN ) I've never had to produce a BC since.

1.   Bama has never held a real job.   

2.  He has used different passports,

3.   He has used 16 SS #   

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Birth-records bill dies after failing to advance
The legislation would have made Obama's information available to the public for $100
By Mark Niesse
Associated Press
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Feb 18, 2011
 
A proposal to sell copies of President Barack Obama's birth records to anyone for $100 is going nowhere in the Hawaii Legislature.

The bill died when it didn't get a hearing before today's deadline for bills to advance to their final committees.

House Health Committee Chairman Ryan Yamane said yesterday he will not consider the legislation because he does not think it is appropriate to sell private information to the public — even if it is the president's birth documentation.

"We shouldn't take knee-jerk reactions. Just because there are these people who want this information, that doesn't mean we should change our state statute so a private, personal record could be accessible for $100," said Yamane, a Democrat.

Hawaii's privacy laws bar the release of birth records unless the requester is someone with a tangible interest, such as a close family member.

So-called "birthers" claim there is no proof Obama was born in the United States, and he is therefore ineligible to be president. Many of the skeptics question whether he was actually born in Kenya, his father's home country.

Republican Rep. Kymberly Pine said efforts to reveal Obama's birth information fuel unfounded suspicions that he was not born in Honolulu.

"It's just opening a whole new can of worms again," said Pine, the minority floor leader. "We should just let this die. People have presented as many facts as we can."

Hawaii's former health director said in 2008 and 2009 she verified Obama's original rec-ords. Public notices were published in two local newspapers within days of Obama's birth at a Honolulu hospital.

The Obama campaign issued a certification of live birth in 2008, an official document from the state showing the president's Aug. 4, 1961, birth date, his birth city and name, and his parents' names and races.

Rep. Rida Cabanilla, who introduced the bill, said she will drop the issue after she learned that requests to the state for Obama's birth documents have declined to just a few per week.

"The demand is dying down," said Cabanilla, a Democrat. "If they still got a lot of requests, I could have pushed it more."

Only a handful of people contacted Yamane about the bill, he said. Three or four people from the mainland wrote they were skeptical that Obama was born in the U.S., and two people from Hawaii said the government should focus on the economy rather than birthers.

Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie, who was a friend of Obama's parents and knew him as a child, revived the issue in December when he said he wanted to release more of the state's birth information about Obama. But he ended the effort in January when the state attorney general told him that privacy laws bar disclosure of an individual's birth documentation without the person's consent.

The bill failed because it had to reach its final committee — the House Finance Committee — by today's deadline for all bills requiring more than one public hearing to advance. But it was not given a hearing in the House Health Committee, a required step before it could move forward.

It would have run into many obstacles from lawmakers even if it had cleared the House and moved to the Senate.

"Any plan to sell copies of the president's or anyone else's birth records is a nonstarter," said Senate Health Committee Chairman Josh Green, a Democrat. "Rights to privacy issues like this are too important to be taken lightly."

Lawmakers in several other states have introduced legislation aimed at making Obama prove his U.S. nationality by birth before he could be placed on those states' ballots. Those states include Arizona, Georgia, Missouri, Nebraska, Connecticut, Oklahoma and Texas.

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