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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #925 on: April 13, 2011, 04:00:33 PM »
I'm not arguing legality - I'm arguing common sense and reality

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #926 on: April 13, 2011, 04:03:47 PM »
I'm not arguing legality - I'm arguing common sense and reality

I have agreed with you he should show it.  But your argument about the Plumber is invalid for the reasons i listed.

And beating your drum about it is a waste of time and pointless because he is not legally obligated to show it.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #927 on: April 13, 2011, 04:06:55 PM »
You Hawaiians are up to something,  I know it!   :D

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #928 on: April 13, 2011, 04:07:30 PM »
Even though I am a lawyer I don't vased my opinios on what is legal or not.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #929 on: April 13, 2011, 04:12:52 PM »
Even though I am a lawyer I don't vased my opinios on what is legal or not.

Do you think i am?

Do you think i am saying you are?

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #930 on: April 13, 2011, 04:23:10 PM »
Yes.  I think you are giving him a pass on this when its mnot warranted. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #931 on: April 13, 2011, 04:34:42 PM »
Yes.  I think you are giving him a pass on this when its mnot warranted. 

I just said I think he should show them.  So how am I giving him a pass?

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #932 on: April 13, 2011, 10:51:51 PM »

RECORDS NOT RELEASED: 
Passport records, Obama kindergarten records, Punahou School records, Occidental College records, Columbia University records, Columbia thesis, Harvard Law School records, Harvard Law Review articles, University of Chicago scholarly articles, Illinois State Bar Association records, Illinois State Senate records/schedules(said to be lost), Medical records, Obama/Dunham marriage license, Obama/Dunham divorce documents, Soetoro/Dunham marriage license, Adoption records and of course the long-form Certificate of Live Birth.

LMFAO!

You're mad that we can't see his grade K records!

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #933 on: April 14, 2011, 06:16:00 AM »
Barack Obama's 1st 2 years on earth

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Posted: April 14, 2011
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© 2011 

Word to Donald Trump: Nothing scares our Lilliputian media like facts. Each fact you present makes them rethink their petty little mission to whittle you down to size.

When asked why you don't take President Obama's word that he was born in America, simply reply, "Why should I? The story he has been telling America about the first two years of his life is provably and profoundly untrue."

This will sting. The Lilliputians have invested great emotional equity in what Obama-friendly biographer David Remnick calls his "signature appeal: the use of the details of his own life as a reflection of a kind of multicultural ideal."

From the beginning, Team Obama has worked hard to protect the investment. This has meant shielding the world from all salient documentation about Obama's life, his long-form birth certificate included.

In the last few years, Obama's nativity story has been told almost as often as Jesus' but with nowhere near the accuracy. Obama led with it in his 2004 convention speech and repeated it in the first sentence of his 2008 speech.

Jack Cashill's literary investigation uncovers revelations galore about Obama's alleged life narrative. Order the new book "Deconstructing Obama: The Life, Love and Letters of America's First Post-Modern President"

As Obama told the story in 2004, his father had grown up in Kenya "herding goats." His mother he traced to Kansas, as he always did. "My parents shared not only an improbable love," Obama continued, "they shared an abiding faith in the possibilities of this nation."

Obama refined his story for a critical speech in Selma, Ala., in March 2007, a speech that would define his presidential campaign.

"Something happened back here in Selma, Alabama," said Obama. This something "sent a shout across the ocean," which inspired the Barack Sr., still "herding goats" back in Kenya, to "set his sights a little higher."

This same something also "worried folks in the White House" to the point that the "the Kennedys decided we're going to do an air lift."

Something about Selma apparently inspired Obama to manufacture facts more flagrantly than usual. For starters, herding goats in his father's town was like delivering newspapers in an American one. Everyone did it as a kid.

Obama Sr. grew up speaking English and attending Christian schools. He was working as a clerk in Nairobi, not a goatherd in "Obama Land," when he applied for the first airlift in 1959. The Republican Eisenhower, not the Democrat Kennedy, was the president when he came to the United States.

Although born in Kansas, Stanley Ann Dunham (Ann), Obama's mother, was not exactly Dorothy. She spent her formative years in the Seattle area where she earned the nickname "Anarchist Annie" under the tutelage of her hipster teachers.

Selma had nothing to do with Obama's birth in any case. He was conceived four years before anyone outside of Alabama ever heard of the town.

The problems, of course, go deeper. According to divorce papers filed in 1964, Barack Sr. and Ann Dunham married in Wailuku, Maui, on Feb. 2, 1961.

One has to wonder, however, whether it was a marriage in anything but name or whether there was a marriage at all. In "Dreams from My Father," Obama says, "In fact, how and when the marriage occurred remains a bit murky, a bill of particulars that I've never quite had the courage to explore."

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No family or friend attended a wedding. In fact, no one in Barack Sr.'s clique seemed to know there was a relationship, let alone a wedding. Clique member Pake Zane could not recall Ann at all.

When current Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie and Zane visited their friend in Nairobi in 1968, Barack Sr. shocked them by never once inquiring about his presumed wife and 6-year-old son.

The facts get more problematic still. After the birth of baby Barry in August 1961, Ann left for Seattle as soon as the doctors cleared her to travel. Once there, she enrolled at the University of Washington. Barack Sr. stayed behind in Hawaii.

The apolitical Washington state historical blog, HistoryLink, now confirms Ann's presence in the fall of 1961, identifies her Capitol Hill apartment in Seattle, names the courses she took, and documents an extended stay by Ann and little Barry into the summer of 1962.

If that is not proof enough, the 1961-1962 Polk Directory confirms an "Obama Anna Mrs studt" at the Capitol Hill address.

Somehow, this information escaped the four book-length biographies I consulted (including one by the New York Times), the official campaign biography and Obama himself in "Dreams."

By the time mom and son returned to Hawaii in the summer of 1962, Barack Sr. had long since left for Harvard. There was no Obama family, never was, no "abiding faith in the possibilities of this nation" save on the teleprompters at the 2004 convention.

Obama knew all of this when he gave his televised Big-Brotherly talk to America's coerced schoolchildren in September. It did not stop him from dissembling.

"I get it," he told the kiddies. "I know what that's like. My father left my family when I was 2 years old, and I was raised by a single mother." Does it get lower?

To be sure, Obama's mother and grandparents created the "Barack Obama" legend not to groom a future president but to give a fatherless biracial kid an identity.

The legend does not withstand scrutiny. Those who have read my book "Deconstructing Obama" know that there is good reason to doubt the very paternity of Barack Obama Sr.

As to the transformation of legend into official story, I believe that it was Bill Ayers who imposed a consciously Homeric structure – the search for the father – on "Dreams" when he took over the book project from the floundering Obama.

I believe, too, that when Obama hooked up with campaign guru David Axelrod in his 2004 race for the U.S. Senate, it was Axelrod who hardened the story into a marketing strategy.

From then on, Obama was stuck with the story, truth be damned. Until Donald Trump entered the scene, he was surely confident that he had gotten away with it.

And now here is "The Donald," blowing the cover not only on his origins, but also on the authorship of "Dreams."

The Lilliputians have their work cut out for them.



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Jack Cashill is an Emmy-award winning independent writer and producer with a Ph.D. in American Studies from Purdue. His latest book is the blockbuster "Deconstructing Obama: The Life, Love and Letters of America's First Post-Modern President."


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #934 on: April 14, 2011, 07:57:22 AM »

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #935 on: April 14, 2011, 08:22:03 AM »


For Ozmo - like I said - Bama has ZERO excuse for a CT SS number.  This is the PI who investigated this.  His father left CT in 1965 and Bama applied in 1977.   So whats the excuse bro?   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #936 on: April 14, 2011, 08:28:30 AM »
Sorry I don't give too much  credibility to amateur vids.  Can you give me some cliff notes of important parts that I can cross check.  I am not going to listen 30 minutes to some stupid tea party bitch.

Or os this what the 30 min vid is about.  How his father left CT in 1965?   And 12 years later Obama applies for a social security card? ::)

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #937 on: April 14, 2011, 08:33:53 AM »
Sorry I don't give too much  credibility to amateur vids.  Can you give me some cliff notes of important parts that I can cross check.  I am not going to listen 30 minutes to some stupid tea party bitch.

Or os this what the 30 min vid is about.  How his father left CT in 1965?   And 12 years later Obama applies for a social security card? ::)

Listen to it - its the Privite Investigator who investigated this whole issue on the SS and puts to bed all the excuses you made for him having a CT number.   Its not an anomoly whatsoever.  She goes over all of that and said its impossible for Bama to have a CT number based on his Hawaiian birth unless he et up residence in CT at the time he applied for the SS number.   

So again - you didnt debunk a damn thing on this.       

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #938 on: April 14, 2011, 08:34:57 AM »
i'm a birther... but...

we all come from some messed up homes, some more than others.  We know obama's narrative doesn't match his reality.  But one point of view is that he had to be PERFECT to win in 2008.

I mean, palin's daughter had a live-in boyfriend, posted pics of drinking liquor, and got knocked up - imagine if that shit was obama's daughter.  he would have lost to hilary.  no question.

Mccain was a straight up player.  Admitted poking some new tang in hawaii while his crippled wife pained.  IMAGINE if obama had pulled that shit.  Yikes.  he'd be bounced.  no doubt about it.


So he had to be perfect.  There were too many Rush's, FOX NEWS and Becks out there, ready to talk about his flaws every single day.  And maybe his parents weren't faithful.  Maybe they were viewed as failures.  Maybe they're deceased and he just didn't feel like having a deaf, limp d*cked pill head make fun of his dead parents for 6 years.


So maybe he created a better, happier narative about his childhood.  We all omit little things about our childhood when talking to people, right?  imagine if 100 million people were ready to make fun of your dead mother.  Would you paint her as a saint, or a whore?  So fcukem on this point.  If he falsified paperwork, that's a crime- investigate it.  But being pissed because he told a story different from reality?  So what.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #939 on: April 14, 2011, 08:35:16 AM »
Also just so you understand.....

-  the governor of Hawaii says his BC is legit.

-  the social security administration says he's legit

-  leaders of the republican party says he's legit

-  no one has come forward with anything substantial except weak ass conjecture

-  the 042 explanation is fine for the SSA and it's fine for me

-  what ever our government does to vet a president says he's legit.


So some fucking fat whore bitch from the tea party who hired a PI means jack shit and her findings don't amount to a steaming pile of dog crap.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #940 on: April 14, 2011, 08:36:53 AM »
Also just so you understand.....
-  the governor of Hawaii says his BC is legit.
-  the social security administration says he's legit
-  leaders of the republican party says he's legit
-  no one has come forward with anything substantial except weak ass conjecture
-  the 042 explanation is fine for the SSA and it's fine for me
-  what ever our government does to vet a president says he's legit.
So some fucking fat whore bitch from the tea party who hired a PI means jack shit and her findings don't amount to a steaming pile of dog crap.

Wow.... you have to accept the fact that the leaders of the GOP, all our intel agencies, the entire federal govt, they're all "in on it".

33, do you accept this?

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #941 on: April 14, 2011, 08:37:29 AM »
Listen to it - its the Privite Investigator who investigated this whole issue on the SS and puts to bed all the excuses you made for him having a CT number.   Its not an anomoly whatsoever.  She goes over all of that and said its impossible for Bama to have a CT number based on his Hawaiian birth unless he et up residence in CT at the time he applied for the SS number.   

So again - you didnt debunk a damn thing on this.       
Got a trans script?  I am not going to listen for 30 min.  Maybe time codes?

Like I said, my info was right from the SSA site.  

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #942 on: April 14, 2011, 08:47:13 AM »
Wow.... you have to accept the fact that the leaders of the GOP, all our intel agencies, the entire federal govt, they're all "in on it".

33, do you accept this?

Yawn - I'm saying no one ever really questioned him on because they never had to and again - I listed all of the docs he refuses to release.  Why is that?

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #943 on: April 14, 2011, 08:48:36 AM »
Got a trans script?  I am not going to listen for 30 min.  Maybe time codes?

Like I said, my info was right from the SSA site.  

Yawn - she goes over that in very explicit detail.   Funny - bama's sister has a HA SS number.     

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #944 on: April 14, 2011, 08:52:35 AM »
where does the  conjoined twin fit in  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #945 on: April 14, 2011, 09:09:08 AM »
Yawn - she goes over that in very explicit detail.   Funny - bama's sister has a HA SS number.      

There nothing funny about his sister having a HI SSN when you understand how Obama got his.  So what's your point?

Is this some of  the weak ass pink nail polish wearing arguments in the vid?  If so, I won't waste my time.

I predict if you do ever serve up some of the points in the vid I will be able to shred that whore mount like a wicked awesome pulled pork roast.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #946 on: April 14, 2011, 09:17:39 AM »
There nothing funny about his sister having a HI SSN when you understand how Obama got his.  So what's your point?

Is this some of  the weak ass pink nail polish wearing arguments in the vid?  If so, I won't waste my time.

I predict if you do ever serve up some of the points in the vid I will be able to shred that whore mount like a wicked awesome pulled pork roast.

The vid came out today Mr. Ostrich.   Again she obliterates every bogus excuse you provide for bama in this thread.     

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #947 on: April 14, 2011, 09:20:02 AM »
Serve it up them,  at least give me some time marks so that i don't have to listen to this whore mount the whole time.  

I predict she is nothing but weak ass arguments an conjecture.  

PS  i will be gone for a while today, so don't take my silence as anything but.  And it will give you time to go back and listen to her nonsense and get the time marks.  

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #948 on: April 14, 2011, 09:21:55 AM »
Serve it up them,  at least give me some time marks so that i don't have to listen to this whore mount the whole time.  

I predict she is nothing but weak ass arguments an conjecture.  

PS  i will gone for a while today, so don't take my silence as anything but.  And it will give you time to go back and listen to her nonsense and get the time marks. 

When you get a chance listen for yourself.   

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #949 on: April 14, 2011, 09:25:32 AM »

-  what ever our government does to vet a president says he's legit.

So some fucking fat whore bitch from the tea party who hired a PI means jack shit and her findings don't amount to a steaming pile of dog crap.

Who is the whatever?  Has anyone on the federal side gone on record saying they've verified Obama's eligibility like Fukino did for the Hawaii DOH?