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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1500 on: May 13, 2011, 09:59:53 AM »
Schooled!
High Tech High Students Expose Flaws in Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate, Rescind Invitation for President to Speak at Commencement
By Walter Mencken | Published Wednesday, May 11, 2011
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http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2011/may/11/sdqt-schooled


The long-form birth certificate released by the government TAKING A LONG WALK OFF A SHORT PIER, POINT LOMA —


It wasn’t supposed to go down like this. When San Diego’s High Tech High International was named as one of six candidates nationwide to receive a commencement address from president Barack Obama this year, it was supposed to be a validation of how far the fledgling school had come in its first decade of existence. Chief administrative officer Ben Daley boasted that the selection proved the value of his school’s emphasis on “producing meaningful work for a real audience — making things that have lasting value and presenting them to professionals in the field.”

Now, he may be wishing that his students had kept their latest class project to themselves. In a good-natured effort to sweeten the pot for the president prior to his final decision, High Tech High seniors Ramesh Bhangoo and Christina Rivera decided to subject Obama’s recently-released “long-form” birth certificate to the sort of typographic scrutiny given to the so-called “Killian documents” that ultimately led to the resignation/retirement of CBS reporter Dan Rather.

“Remember how the right-wing wackos went nuts in 2004 over those documents that showed how Bush was basically AWOL from the Texas National Guard in the ’70s?” asks Bhangoo. “That guy at Little Green Footballs posted that gif file showing how a memo supposedly typed 30 years ago matched up to a Microsoft Word doc with proportionally spaced font. Of course, they didn’t actually prove that the documents were forgeries, but the fallout was enough to take down Rather, and the whole mess probably helped Bush win in ’04.”

“All this ‘birther’ bullshit sounded like more of the same to us,” adds Rivera. “We knew that the people who believed that Obama was born in Kenya — and that his Hawaiian birth certificate was a fake, and that he therefore had no constitutional right to be president — wouldn’t be convinced by this long-form release. When you’re crazy, you’re crazy, and you can always find a way to justify your craziness. But we figured it couldn’t hurt to at least head them off on this whole typography question. Here at High Tech High, we knew we had the equipment, the training, and the critical thinking skills required to do just that.”

“Yeah, we did,” concluded Bhangoo. “Damn it.”

The title of the students’ report on their work says it all: “Say It Ain’t So: An Inquiry into the Validity of ‘President’ Obama’s Long-Form Birth Certificate.” “We tried to think like the nutjobs,” recalls Rivera. “We started by asking why they inserted the green-pattern background underneath the original text. Then we started looking for other obvious oddities. Long story short — yeah, this is kind of a fake.”

“You don’t really have to look further than the child’s name,” says Bhangoo. “The way the ‘r’ in ‘Barack’ differs in all sorts of ways from the rest of the letters, the way the green background fades away around certain parts of ‘Hussein’ and ‘Obama.’ It’s a Photoshop job, and not even a particularly careful one. We did a little followup work and found a death certificate for a Herbert Harrison O’Brien from the same hospital, dated August 5, 1961. The date of birth on that death certificate is given as August 4, same as little Barack Hussein Obama. But the funny thing is, there’s no corresponding birth certificate for baby Herbert. Where did it go? And why doesn’t Obama’s mother sign his birth certificate until August 7, three days after her son is born? By then, we were too depressed to dig any deeper.”

“Our commitment to ethics really sets us apart at High Tech High,” says fellow senior and commencement ceremony chair Rishika Daryanani. “This case is no exception. Thanks to these two jerkfaces, now we have to disinvite America’s first black president and maybe get him kicked out of office, too. Thanks a lot, guys. Maybe we can get Donald Trump to fill in.”

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1501 on: May 13, 2011, 12:36:59 PM »
Schooled!
High Tech High Students Expose Flaws in Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate, Rescind Invitation for President to Speak at Commencement
By Walter Mencken | Published Wednesday, May 11, 2011
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http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2011/may/11/sdqt-schooled

You do know this is a spoof article? Look at the header section. It reads SD ON THE QT - ALMOST FACTUAL NEWS

Obama was not set to give commencement address, so no dis-invite.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/may/10/memphis-school-beats-out-sd-charter-for-obama-visi/
Obama passes on High Tech High
.....The White House announced Tuesday that Booker T. WashingtonHigh School in Memphis won the contest, beating out both High Tech and Bridgeport High School in rural Washington.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1502 on: May 15, 2011, 06:39:00 PM »
I hate to say this but the birth cert released IS fake.  I just confirmed this by checking it out myself after being shown these videos:  Importing the pdf straight from the whitehouse into photoshop also exposes the added layers and items changed.  It's not only fake, it's a really horrible fake.  I guess there is something to this birther stuff.  Isn't forgery a federal offense?



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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1503 on: May 15, 2011, 06:44:36 PM »
Look when bama released it.  Coincidence?

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1504 on: May 15, 2011, 06:47:41 PM »
I hate to say this but the birth cert released IS fake.  I just confirmed this by checking it out myself after being shown these videos:  Importing the pdf straight from the whitehouse into photoshop also exposes the added layers and items changed.  It's not only fake, it's a really horrible fake.  I guess there is something to this birther stuff.  Isn't forgery a federal offense?




Of course anyone can make a fake anything... That doesn't mean that Obama's is a fake.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1505 on: May 15, 2011, 06:50:42 PM »
my CT is that Obama puts out a fake one to keep the birthers talking, marginalizing themselves further.

Then, right before the election, he releases pictures of him being born in Hawaii, his mom wearing a hawaiian lei and a few convenient hawaiian landmarks visible right outside the window. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1506 on: May 15, 2011, 07:00:25 PM »
Of course anyone can make a fake anything... That doesn't mean that Obama's is a fake.
it's taken from the whitehouse webpage.  This isn't about someone duplicating that it can be faked.  It's about showing why the official release IS FAKE.  It looks pretty freaking fishy to me.  Just importing it into photoshop will have you wondering wtf.

Here's what it looks like imported into photoshop straight from the whitehouse servers. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1507 on: May 15, 2011, 07:05:12 PM »
Ha ha ha after all of this Hugo is now a birther.   welcome to the club.   Better later than never.   Lol.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1508 on: May 15, 2011, 07:11:57 PM »
they need to let a couple document experts authenticate the real thing.  This pdf scan looks real fishy to me.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1509 on: May 16, 2011, 08:16:22 PM »
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SMOKING GUN: OBAMA’S LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE FRAUD: Kerning from computer, not typewriter
WebToday ^ | May 16, 2011 | WebToday
Posted on May 16, 2011 10:59:29 PM EDT by geraldmcg

This may in fact be the SMOKING GUN on the Obama long form birth certificate matter. A new video produced by Talk Radio Host, Sr. contributor to PPSIMMONS viral YouTube channel, and Pastor Carl Gallups - has demonstrated proof-positive that the long form Birth Certificate that President Obama presented to the public and "swore" was his original long form birth certificate has been exposed to have been at least partially computer generated.

Available to be your Talk Show Interview Guest is CARL GALLUPS, who has produced a short but explosive three minute video that you can study with your own eyes shows the KERNING effect used on Obama's birth certificate that is strikingly compared to the Nordyke twins' Birth Certificate.

Link to Smoking Gun 3-minute video:


During your interview, Carl shares that the Nordyke twins were born the day after Obama was born and they were born in Kapiolani Hospital - the purported hospital of Obama's birth. This highly provocative video demonstrates the striking and irrefutable difference between birth certificates that are separated only by one day. The differences are striking. The Nordyke certificate was obviously produced on a 1960's typewriter. Obama's was obviously produced on a modern computer.

The video is going viral. Call Special guests today to interview Carl Gallups to explain is how it would be impossible for the Obama birth certificate to have been created in the 1960s. Carl shares his research and intricate, detailed knowledge of the subject of kerning. This is the smoking gun that Obama has feared!

ABOUT YOUR EXPERT GUEST, CARL GALLUPS:

Carl Gallups is the Pastor of Hickory Hammock Baptist Church in Milton, Florida and a major contributor and narrator for various viral videos for the PPSIMMONS YouTube site. PPSIMMONS himself wishes to remain anonymous.

Pastor Gallups:

- Has been the Senior Pastor of HHBC since 1987

- Was a Florida law enforcement officer for 10 years

- Was a Youth Minister from 1985 to 1987 - Metairie, Louisiana

-Serves on the Board of Regents at the University of Mobile, a Southern Baptist University

- Graduate of The Florida Law Enforcement Academy

- Associate of Arts Degree from Florida State University

- Bachelor's Degree from Florida State University

- Master's Degree from New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary (M.Div.)

- Carl has preached all over the United States from Hawaii to Alaska and from California to New York - he has preached in Israel and in Peru. He has preached all over Western Canada from Calgary to Kamloops. Carl has preached numerous crusades, conferences and revivals in and around Lima, Peru as well as served as guest lecturer at the Christian Missionary Alliance Seminary of Lima,


ORIGINAL ARTICLE: http://www.specialguests.com/guests/viewnews.cgi?id=EFpVypppyVbWcJFLwT&tmpl=default

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1510 on: May 17, 2011, 03:31:17 AM »
Yea, I'm about 99% sure it's fake. I'm not an expert on pdf docs so I'll leave that 1% unsure.  I can't fathom why the changed portions would show up importing it into photoshop.  But anyone who has photoshop can do the same thing I did, just import the released pdf into photoshop and see it looks seriously screwed with.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1511 on: May 17, 2011, 06:16:35 AM »
let's keep this alive and make it a major election issue.
Bring back the Donald !
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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1512 on: May 17, 2011, 10:33:51 AM »
Yea, I'm about 99% sure it's fake. I'm not an expert on pdf docs so I'll leave that 1% unsure.

I did the same thing, but am also no expert. The thing that has me scratching my head is why are the letters left on the background in white? It doesn't fit with anything I understand.

IF it were a background image in layers, it would be totally blank - no white shadows left.

IF it was the paper used in the copy machine (the WH official story), there would not be the break in the pattern on the left hand edge, not the black triangle at the top left.

"They" did this to us on purpose. Infuriating!

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1513 on: May 17, 2011, 03:08:37 PM »
Just for you 33333, and others  :)

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=299781

A QUESTION OF ELIGIBILITY
Nordyke numbers expose Obama document fraud?
Newly found details about birth registration show president's certificate out of sequence

Posted: May 16, 2011
8:50 pm Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2011 WorldNetDaily



Eleanor Nordyke, mother of twins born one day after Barack Obama's reported birth.
NEW YORK – Newly unearthed information about Hawaii's procedure for numbering birth records at the time Barack Obama was born casts further doubt on the authenticity of the short-form and long-form birth certificates published online with the president's authority.

Details about the registration procedure are significant, because some analysts have wondered how Obama could have been issued a registration number that is higher than the numbers of the published birth certificates of Susan and Gretchen Nordyke, which were registered three days later than the president's.

Some have speculated that even though Obama's birth certificate was received by the registrar Aug. 8, 1961, the registration number could have been assigned a few days later by a clerk processing a batch that included the Nordyke twins' birth records.

But a 1955 article by Charles Bennett, Hawaii's registrar general in 1961, and George Tokuyama, chief of the registration and records section for the state's Department of Health, stated birth certificates were numbered immediately upon acceptance by the registrar-general.

JeromeCorsi's new book, "Where's the Birth Certificate?", is now available for immediate shipping, autographed by the author, only from the WND Superstore

The article published in the November-December 1955 issue of the Hawaii Medical Journal, titled "Vital Records in Hawaii," makes clear that the territory was streamlining and structuring an undisciplined vital records system to comply with U.S. Bureau of Census practices in preparation for statehood in 1959.



          

As WND reported, the numbers on the long-form birth certificates issued by Kapi'olani hospital to the Nordyke twins are lower than the number assigned to Obama's published birth certificates, even though the president's birth record indicates it was accepted by the registrar-general three days earlier.

    Susan Nordyke, the first twin, was born at 2:12 p.m. Hawaii time on Aug. 5, 1961, and was given Certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10637, which was filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.

    Gretchen Nordyke, the second twin, was born at 2:17 p.m. Aug. 5, 1961, and was given Certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10638, which was also filed with the Hawaii registrar Aug. 11, 1961.

    Yet, according to the Certification of Live Birth released by FactCheck.org during the 2008 presidential campaign – and now according to the long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate the White House released last month – Obama was given a higher certificate number than the Nordyke twins.

    Obama was given Certificate No. 151 – 61 – 10641, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the Nordyke twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii Department of Health registrar three days earlier, on Aug. 8, 1961.

These facts suggest that if the two Obama documents are forgeries, the forger was unaware of the Nordyke twins' birth certificates, which were first published July 28, 2009, in an article in the Honolulu Advertiser, more than one year after Obama's short-form Certification of Live Birth was posted by the Daily Kos.


Birth certificate of Gretchen Nordyke, one of two twin sisters born at what was known in 1961 as the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii.

A search of Hawaii newspapers indicates 13 babies were born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, and 22 on Aug. 5, 1961, suggesting Obama's birth certificate number should be about 30 to 50 digits lower that the Nordyke twins' numbers. Since the Hawaii DOH will not allow an open inspection of the August 1961 birth records, it is impossible to know how many birth certificates the registrar general filed and numbered between Aug. 8 and Aug. 11, 1961.

Birth certificate procedures revised in 1955

In his 1955 article, Bennett and Tokuyama noted that by 1950, Hawaii had reduced the total number of local registrars from 35 to four.

"Since the central office (in Honolulu) can deal more easily with four officials than a larger number, this reduction greatly simplified administration of the system," they wrote. "With present-day communication facilities, the reduction in number of registrars does not inconvenience the public."

The authors made it clear that even with his revisions, family members could report a birth to the Hawaii Department of Health, a practice that WND has shown would have allowed Obama's grandparents to report the birth, even if Obama were not born in Hawaii.

"The attending physician or midwife must report births to the local registrar within seven days after they occur," they wrote. "If neither was in attendance, a parent or other person must report."

As WND reported, the address in the newspaper announcement of Obama's birth was 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, which is where the grandparents lived. There is no indication that Barack Obama Sr. and Ann Dunham ever lived together as husband and wife.

Hospitals prepare birth certificates

Bennett's and Tokuyama's article is also rich in details regarding how the original birth certificates were produced in Hawaii in the era in which Obama was born.

"In practice, a hospital where a birth occurs assumes the responsibility for reporting it," they noted. "Since more than 95% of all birth occur in hospitals, this is the usual procedure."

Here is the critical paragraph:

    A nurse or clerk in the hospital fills in the certificate form and gets the mother to sign it. Then the attending physician enters certain medical data and affixes his signature. Finally the hospital sends the completed certificate to the local registrar.

Then, if any question arose, the registrar asked the hospital about it, rather than contacting the doctor directly, even though the legal responsibility for reporting remained with the physician.

When the local registrar was satisfied the birth certificate was complete, the registrar-general filed it by placing the filing date on the birth certificate and assigning it a number.

The date was recorded by an ink stamp that manually adjusted the date in the format month-day-year.

The certificate number appears to be applied with a Bates numbering stamp that advanced automatically by one number each time the stamp was used.

Bennett's and Tokuyama's description of this procedure shows that birth certificates were numbered upon acceptance by the registrar-general, and there was no provision that would allow an accepted birth certificate to be put in a pile for three days before a number was stamped on it.

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1514 on: May 17, 2011, 08:59:39 PM »
I hate to say this but the birth cert released IS fake.  I just confirmed this by checking it out myself after being shown these videos:  Importing the pdf straight from the whitehouse into photoshop also exposes the added layers and items changed.  It's not only fake, it's a really horrible fake.  I guess there is something to this birther stuff.  Isn't forgery a federal offense?



This is quite a convincing video.  We need to get this to Donald Trump and get it exposed to the mainstream media. 

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1515 on: May 18, 2011, 06:08:39 AM »

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1516 on: May 18, 2011, 06:13:50 AM »
The Market Ticker ® - Commentary on The Capital Markets Posted 2011-05-17 12:19
by Karl Denninger
in Editorial
 Whistling... (Birth Certificate Is A Forgery)

 
 
Oh my, what do we have here?

Incidentally, this gentleman is right.  I missed this and shouldn't have.




This is not in the realm of probability stacking any more.  The page portion here is curved as it is allegedly "scanned" from a book page.  The curvature is consistent with both the margin lines and the printed word "Sex."

The typed word Male shows no curvature in the baseline of the text; this is physically impossible if the word "Male" was originally printed upon the same page that was scanned.  Worse, the entire hospital name is straight while the text of the caption is properly curved at the margin - but not elsewhere.

Everyone has tried to explain away the various "coincidences."  But for this to have happened "coincidentally" the typewriter would have had to curve the text it was typing.

Sorry, but no.


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1517 on: May 18, 2011, 07:02:22 AM »
This will be my last time posting i this thread in the hopes that the level-headed people who come here will read this and stop this nonsense about this stupid BC stuff...the fact of the matter is that ALL documents have some kind of error...this is because no two pieces of paper are alike....and because human error sometimes things aren't spelled correctly or aren't put in the proper box..

This thread is only for crazy people....I will not be back due t the fact that I am sane

I'm sure if you closely examined 3333's law degree you could analyze it under a microscope and find errors or that his degree is slightly different from others

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1518 on: May 18, 2011, 07:31:31 AM »
i love it.. 3333 has a deep seeded hatred for the president.. not sure why.. but its to the point where he gets delusional and starts making shit up.. its hilarious to sit back and watch.. this guy is  fully guano crazy

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1519 on: May 18, 2011, 07:33:11 AM »
i love it.. 3333 has a deep seeded hatred for the president.. not sure why.. but its to the point where he gets delusional and starts making shit up.. its hilarious to sit back and watch.. this guy is  fully guano crazy

agreed.....I will leave it up to you guys to battle it out with him..I am leaving this thread permanently..good luck!..bye

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1520 on: May 18, 2011, 07:35:56 AM »
agreed.....I will leave it up to you guys to battle it out with him..I am leaving this thread permanently..good luck!..bye

lol.. battle?... with this "guy"... you cant battle with facts..this "guy" wont facts get in the way of hatred

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1521 on: May 18, 2011, 07:36:13 AM »
i love it.. 3333 has a deep seeded hatred for the president.. not sure why.. but its to the point where he gets delusional and starts making shit up.. its hilarious to sit back and watch.. this guy is  fully guano crazy


Even Hugo is now a birther and says this is fake.  


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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1522 on: May 18, 2011, 10:59:42 AM »
Affidavit Of Douglas Vogt

Re: Legal proof that President Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth is a forgery.

Dear Sir/Madam, I have irrefutably proven that the Certificate of Live Birth that President Obama presented to the world on April 27, 2011 is a fraudulently created document put together using the Adobe Photoshopor Illustrator programs and the creation of this forgery of a public document constitutes a Class B felony in Hawaii and multiple violations under U.S. Code section Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 47, Sec.1028, and therefore an impeachable offense.  When this comes to the public’s attention, it will be the greatest scandal in the country’s history -- nothing comes even close.  This will surpass the all previous scandals including the Watergate scandal of the Nixon administration.

My Credentials

I have a unique background for analyzing this document.  I owned a typesetting company for 11years so I know type and form design very well.  I currently own Archive Index Systems since 1993, which sells all types of document scanners worldwide and also developed document imaging software (TheRepository).  I know how the scanners work.  I have also sold other document imaging programs, such as Laser Fiche, Liberty and Alchemy.  I have sold and installed document imaging systems in city and county governments, so I know their procedures with imaging systems and everything about the design of such programs.  This will be important in understanding what has happened with Obama’s Certificate of Live Birth.

continue reading at:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/55594183/Obamas-Cert-of-Birth-May-10-2011-News-Realease

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Re: All things "Birther" Thread
« Reply #1523 on: May 18, 2011, 11:24:23 AM »
Is this like the affidavit from the former state employee who claimed the BC didn't exist? 

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« Reply #1524 on: May 18, 2011, 11:30:46 AM »
Is this like the affidavit from the former state employee who claimed the BC didn't exist? 

If this one is fake and a forgery - maybe he was right?   ;)