Anyone ever successfully "Clean Bulked"

[wavelength]

Yes as a natural... chances are you won't be gaining much muscle at all... I agree

but this is bodybuilding and people with half a brain who want to gain muscle have supraphysiological levels of growth hormones

Alan's article deals with both naturals and juicers.
But you're right that I have no personal experience with the latter.

[io856]

Alan's article deals with both naturals and juicers.
But you're right that I have no personal experience with the latter.

On the other hand this Aragon fella writes a great article

[wavelength]

On the other hand this Aragon fella writes a great article

He sure knows his stuff.

'Alan Aragon has over 15 years of success in the fitness field. He earned his Bachelor and Master of Science in Nutrition with top honors. Alan is a continuing education provider for the Commission on Dietetic Registration, National Academy of Sports Medicine, American Council on Exercise, and National Strength & Conditioning Association. Alan recently lectured to clinicians at the FDA and the annual conference of the Los Angeles Dietetic Association. He maintains a private practice designing programs for recreational, Olympic, and professional athletes, including the Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Kings, and Anaheim Mighty Ducks. Alan is a contributing editor to Men's Health magazine, where he has a monthly column called "Ask The Weight Loss Coach".'

And that's what he wrote when I asked him about recomping / building muscle while losing fat:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=385273091&postcount=35

[benchmstr]

if i had a life size gummy bear....i would totally have sex with it!!!!

bench

[io856]

if i had a life size gummy bear....i would totally have sex with it!!!!

bench

you need some ambien stat!

[benchmstr]

you need some ambien stat!

i am just letting yall know where i stand on the gummy bear situation.....and ambien?...i could take a handfull of that shit and go running, or to the gym......it is useless on me...

bench

[njflex]

i try to do what all you guys have said,a little clean and some wks add some "bad carbs",all food can be healthy depending on how it's prepared and portions,calorie counting though is for the birds,if u lift heavy and hard and cycle your carbs and fats then eat to grow,there is a limit to size and condition at some point for most regular trainees like most on this board,contest or high level bbers are totally different perspective.training is great,eating can be good or bad,to stay ultra lean as possible is a commitment and tough task because your trying to keep your body with a look that even a slight increase in calories causes the "look'to change and it plays mind games and u can feel guilty that your not your best because your not lean as u have been .you feel inferior to yourself .

[Hulkotron]

Bodybuilding is the muscle

[Ursus]

Once I hit around the 18stone mark I think I will consciously clean up my diet a little so that I 'grow' into my weight.

So far I am 17st 7lbs in the morning.

[Palpatine Q]

He sure knows his stuff.

'Alan Aragon has over 15 years of success in the fitness field. He earned his Bachelor and Master of Science in Nutrition with top honors. Alan is a continuing education provider for the Commission on Dietetic Registration, National Academy of Sports Medicine, American Council on Exercise, and National Strength & Conditioning Association. Alan recently lectured to clinicians at the FDA and the annual conference of the Los Angeles Dietetic Association. He maintains a private practice designing programs for recreational, Olympic, and professional athletes, including the Los Angeles Lakers, Los Angeles Kings, and Anaheim Mighty Ducks. Alan is a contributing editor to Men's Health magazine, where he has a monthly column called "Ask The Weight Loss Coach".'

And that's what he wrote when I asked him about recomping / building muscle while losing fat:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=385273091&postcount=35

Yeah...he's a beast....I'd follow his advice to the letter.

[che]

Trial and error for me , I don't read  any studies ,or listen to nutritionist or bodybuilders  , I know what works for my wife and I  (both lifetime naturals )

[ChristopherA]

the short answer is probably no


there are a few people around like levrone who used to grow into shows and stuff like that, but to tell the truth you have to be a black guy to do shit like that


there is another instance where you can clean bulk, wichis your first steroid cycle.....durign this time yo can eat pretty much anything and get biug and lean

Dont really think this is true. If you have a fast metabolism then yes eat whatever you want and you will get bigger and stay lean. Someone with a slower metabolism eating whatever they want isnt gonna stay lean no matter what gear they are on. They will def gain size. Juice doesnt burn fat but the increase in muscle size sometimes gives the illusion that you are staying lean. As far as "clean bulking" what fun is that? Plus when you go to get ripped what do you do just decrease the "clean" calories? You're gonna be burnt out from eating just chicken rice etc. throughout both phases of your program

[Till_I-Collapse]

I think what might be more useful than these arguments is to have any guru here recommend a diet that actually works?

I am looking for a realistic diet to lower my BF% ! a one that is actually possible, not one of those diets in which you have 5 or 6 meals a day.

I am expecting to be doing cardio 3 times a week.

[BB]

Just eat less, do more and make sure to get enough protein. End of story. Nothing fancy is needed till you're REALLY in the single digits bodyfat wise.

[wavelength]

Yeah...he's a beast....I'd follow his advice to the letter.

I hope this was a joke