Congrats Mr. Obama

[INSOMNIA]

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The repubs did NOTHING for 12 years on healthcare... so nobody should act surprised that the first crap sandwich that obama offers 30 mil hungry uninsured people suddenly passes with flying colors.

agreed.

[TEsticles]

doco after doco ,i  remember watching many  shows on those militia groups/organisations that are scattered in places like colorado , montana, etc,
saying things like " were armed and if the government comes to take our rights away we'll defend them with our lives" and other statements of out o' control governments taking away their liberties and messing with the constitution.
  
Those were the years of the reagan , bush the elder , clinton admins, and i'd think how fucked up are these people, and unaware that their in a country that truly stands for freedom and individual rights....damn rednecks. looks like their paranoia was right all along....enter obama and his communist/progressive cronies attempting to break america into a follower of the european model of government with a socialist brainwashed population, dancing to that poor excuse of a human 'pelosi's tunes........ revolution!!  ( and i'm an australian ffs!!)

[ShipSekki]

doco after doco ,i  remember watching many  shows on those militia groups/organisations that are scattered in places like colorado , montana, etc,
saying things like " were armed and if the government comes to take our rights away we'll defend them with our lives" and other statements of out o' control governments taking away their liberties and messing with the constitution.
  
Those were the years of the reagan , bush the elder , clinton admins, and i'd think how fucked up are these people, and unaware that their in a country that truly stands for freedom and individual rights....damn rednecks. looks like their paranoia was right all along....enter obama and his communist/progressive cronies attempting to break america into a follower of the european model of government with a socialist brainwashed population, dancing to that poor excuse of a human 'pelosi's tunes........ revolution!!  ( and i'm an australian ffs!!)

 You fucking idiot. You didn't notice Bush doing the exact same things since about 2002???

 I am no fan of Obama, but Bush was MUCH worse.

 So many people are fucking idiots, brainwashed into hating "socialists" and "commies" and they don't even really know what these things are.

[tbombz]

This is the beginning of the end for our country. This is NOT the America that our forefathers envisioned. Thanks to a bunch of ignorant, uneducated idiots, like you've stated, who voted for Obama because they wanted to make history, we will no longer be the greatest nation in the world. Our freedoms are being taken away bit by bit. This thing will pass unconstitutionally, even though 75% of Americans oppose the "reform".

lmao! you are one ignorant individual. 

[tbombz]

MP, i'm talking about the tea party - I love 95% of their political platform.

Their events and protests keep getting attention for a few people in the crowd yelling racist words, instead of their very good message.

It's holding them back from becoming a powerful political force which could work with repubs in 2012 and defeat obama.

the "Tea Party" has absolutely zero relevance to anything, totally created by the media, a small group of retards who have sarah palin come speak to them.. lmao...

[tbombz]

insurance companies can't dump you for pre-existing conditions anymore.

If you have a job as an adult, and choose not to carry health insurance, you pay a fine of $325 a year.

both of those are unconstitutional


this "bill" does absolutely nothing.. in fact it makes things worse... because now we will have to wait even longer for REAL change...  while the country sits aorund and waits until they figure out that this bill does nothing..

[tbombz]

instead of revolution, how about we start electing real politicians, and not just loud mouthed ignoramouses who are arrogant enough to think their opinion matters when they dont have any expertise on any of the issues at hand.

[Tapeworm]

Seems like half of you object to the bill because it's not 'real' reform while the other half object to the proposition that everyone in America should have access to medical care.

[tbombz]

Seems like half of you object to the bill because it's not 'real' reform while the other half object to the proposition that everyone in America should have access to medical care.

so its real reform, then? 

[tbombz]

Obama is a stupid piece of shit, he should have never ran for office if he intended on letting the republicans rape him and control his agenda.

[INSOMNIA]

the 'system' as it stood 20-30 years ago seemed to work out quite well. would make too much sense for 'reform' to revert back to that  

I cant afford health insurance as it stands right now..  @ $700+ per month for me & family, and on top of that a bunch more of out of pocket expense if there is any hospital care, prescriptions, etc. Somone like me who relies mostly on natural cures and is otherwise extremely healthy.. makes no sense to pay that. But in the slight chance of a mishap, I'm gonna be screwed with medical bills.

This currrent bill does nothing but add more govt beaurocracy, which there is way too much of already.

[tbombz]

the 'system' as it stood 20-30 years ago seemed to work out quite well. would make too much sense for 'reform' to revert back to that  

I cant afford health insurance as it stands right now..  @ $700+ per month for me & family, and on top of that a bunch more of out of pocket expense if there is any hospital care, prescriptions, etc. Somone like me who relies mostly on natural cures and is otherwise extremely healthy.. makes no sense to pay that. But in the slight chance of a mishap, I'm gonna be screwed with medical bills.

This currrent bill does nothing but add more govt beaurocracy, which there is way too much of already.

the only solution is universal single payer healthcare

[Parker]

instead of revolution, how about we start electing real politicians, and not just loud mouthed ignoramouses who are arrogant enough to think their opinion matters when they dont have any expertise on any of the issues at hand.

These are real politicians. Politicians are whores, plain and simple. Always have, always will be. It's not that one cannot be a good whore, its the bad ones that give a good whore a bad name. Besides, one cannot be a Pure hearted (I forgot the term i learned in college) politician. There is a certain level of give and take.

[Tapeworm]

so its real reform, then? 

I don't know anything about it.  Just heard 'universal health care bill passes in America" on the radio a few hours ago at work.  Experience shows, however, that whatever something might be called rarely has any relation to its substance, so I'd have to find out exactly what has passed before I could give it a yay or nay.

[ShipSekki]

instead of revolution, how about we start electing real politicians, and not just loud mouthed ignoramouses who are arrogant enough to think their opinion matters when they dont have any expertise on any of the issues at hand.

 Because the fact is that the vast majority of people are TOO STUPID and uneducated to see through these politicians bullshit.

 That's the problem with Democracy, any idiot can walk in and vote. And they all do.

[Parker]

Because the fact is that the vast majority of people are TOO STUPID and uneducated to see through these politicians bullshit.

 That's the problem with Democracy, any idiot can walk in and vote. And they all do.

For the last 30 yrs, do to Baby Boomer Parenting, the American population has been dumbed down.

People can blame MTV if they want, but someone still has to turn on the TV.

[TEsticles]

You fucking idiot. You didn't notice Bush doing the exact same things since about 2002???

 I am no fan of Obama, but Bush was MUCH worse.

 So many people are fucking idiots, brainwashed into hating "socialists" and "commies" and they don't even really know what these things are.

patience shitseki, good things come to those who wait.

[Red Hook]

the only solution is universal single payer healthcare

yep, quoted for truth....

unfortunately in America the obvious and simple answer to any problem is debated to the death and even then the left and right will come out with the polar opposite view of it.

it is disheartening that the best minds can't be locked in a room and come with a solution and not contrition.  It seems like the politicians are more concerned with towing the party lines than finding solutions.  And ofcourse the general population seem to have fallen inline

[Coach is Back!]

the only solution is universal single payer healthcare

Yeah right, because it's worked so well in other countries and people are dieing 2-3 x's the rate they do here and those countries who have aren't going broke....brilliant

[newmom]

insurance companies can't dump you for pre-existing conditions anymore.

If you have a job as an adult, and choose not to carry health insurance, you pay a fine of $325 a year.

That is part of the bill I don't agree with. Guess I'm naive and yes I voted for Obama, not to make history, I believed what he said, do I wanna double step it..yup

[Coach is Back!]

That is part of the bill I don't agree with. Guess I'm naive and yes I voted for Obama, not to make history, I believed what he said, do I wanna double step it..yup

You got duped!

[240 is Back]

"Yeah right, because it's worked so well in other countries and people are dieing 2-3 x's the rate they do here and those countries who have aren't going broke....brilliant "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

Actually, the USA is 38th in the world for life expectancy.

Many of the countries ranked before us (whose people live longer) use universal healthcare.  Hell, South Koreans live longer than Americans...

[newmom]

You got duped!

no shit Joe, but it won't be the first or last in my lifetime I'm sure

[dr.chimps]

You lied your way into the White House, you haven't had one successful policy and now you have lied, bribed and threatened people who have opposed you into voting for this farce and to top it....you have made people that much lazier. Hope you're happy you have totally screwed our kids.

Now kindly go fuck yourself and have YOUR health care system help pull it out!

LOL. Coach can melt down all by himself.