Is Mindspin Anti bodybuilding?

[tom joad]

'20-25K'

not a huge amount.
very honest -thanks!

even disregarding the fact that the above estimated annual "supps" expenses are probably being lowballed by Chick,
20-25K for drugs seems to me to be a rather hefty sum for a fringe pursuit with so little upside?    

[Jezebelle]

They can't peak every month. That would be impossible.

Yes i know you have your amazing way of eating to peak but you don't hold near the muscle these guys do and do not realise it is totally different.

Thats the point.  Thats where the strategy and the challenge comes in.

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

chick,,,why do you respond to these clowns such as mindspin,,,,

[MadeYaMelt]

Not so fast.  My buddy from Venice, CA told me some things about Chick that would indicate that the suga daddy story does have merit.

   I started training in Venice a few weeks before Bob left for FL (sorry I didn't get a chance to say hello Bob).  In my time out here, I've seen or heard nothing to believe that Chick engaged in that shit.  It's not all that hard to spot the ones that do... 

[MadeYaMelt]

Okay, you disagree with my point that bodybuilders make very little money.  What percentage of pros make $60,000/yr from bodybuilding alone?

Who cares what they make from bodybuilding?  They should work a real job like everyone else.  Coleman continued to work as a cop for years after he won his first O.  Cutler still has his real estate business as far as I know. The money you make from bodybuilding should just be an added bonus - not your main source of income. 

[leadhead]

Who cares what they make from bodybuilding?  They should work a real job like everyone else.  Coleman continued to work as a cop for years after he won his first O.  Cutler still has his real estate business as far as I know. The money you make from bodybuilding should just be an added bonus - not your main source of income. 

I agree. What would be so hard about working at least a part time job while being a pro? I work a full time corporate job and still have time to run a plant nursery on my personal time . Lazy bastards

[MindSpin]

What fight is your avatar from?  That guy looks like he almost got killed.

WEC 47: Bowles vs. Cruz.  That's a sick front guillotine being perfectly executed by Scot Jorgensen.  Ended the fight in 31seconds of round 1. 

[MindSpin]

It works in tiers, like any other SPORT...top5% make the most (300K/ plus), scales down from there...

So a handful of guys make $300k and the rest are barely scraping by.  I believe that proves one of my premises.  There is no fame & monetary fortune in bbing as the magazines would lead you to believe...

[Overload]

Bob seems to be telling a decent amount of truth here, so props for that.

I remember King claiming he spent roughly 20-30k per show on Gear, but keep in mind the largest portion of that was on the expensive GH he was using in insane dosages. You can easily spend 1-2k a month on GH if you are using high quality stuff in high amounts or if you buy from Palumbo, err i mean if you buy overpriced crap from a shady dealer. If Bob never used GH, which is possible, he might be giving an accurate number here.

Good thread here, i know local guys who spend 20k a year on gear.

[Jezebelle]

Bob seems to be telling a decent amount of truth here, so props for that.

I remember King claiming he spent roughly 20-30k per show on Gear, but keep in mind the largest portion of that was on the expensive GH he was using in insane dosages. You can easily spend 1-2k a month on GH if you are using high quality stuff in high amounts or if you buy from Palumbo, err i mean if you buy overpriced crap from a shady dealer. If Bob never used GH, which is possible, he might be giving an accurate number here.

Good thread here, i know local guys who spend 20k a year on gear.

They would be better off staying Natural, competing in Natural shows (since drugs are only 2 percent of it. Right Bob?)  investing the yearly 20 grand in the Stock Market or using that money to make more.  I guess bodybuilders aren`t the sharpest knives in the cutlery drawers.

[Chick]

So a handful of guys make $300k and the rest are barely scraping by.  I believe that proves one of my premises.  There is no fame & monetary fortune in bbing as the magazines would lead you to believe...

Actually, it completetly proves you wrong...but believe what you want, it seems to make you sleep at night

[Man of Steel]

just farted

[MindSpin]

Actually, it completetly proves you wrong...but believe what you want, it seems to make you sleep at night

You said that on average pros are spending $25-$30k/yr on gear, yet most are barely making that much in income.  Seems pretty sad to me.  In fact, it kinda reminds me of crack addicts.  Spending everything they have on drugs and when they can no longer afford the drugs, they turn to selling their bodies

[tom joad]

You said that on average pros are spending $25-$30k/yr on gear, yet most are barely making that much in income.  Seems pretty sad to me.  In fact, it kinda reminds me of crack addicts.  Spending everything they have on drugs and when they can no longer afford the drugs, they turn to selling their bodies

ummmm it's called, living the dream. 

[Chick]

You said that on average pros are spending $25-$30k/yr on gear, yet most are barely making that much in income.  Seems pretty sad to me.  In fact, it kinda reminds me of crack addicts.  Spending everything they have on drugs and when they can no longer afford the drugs, they turn to selling their bodies

Thats not what I said...

Whats funny is watching you backpeddle and change your tune now that you've been proven WRONG...why do you insist on trying to make a point when you clearly dont know what you're talking about?

[MindSpin]

Thats not what I said...

Whats funny is watching you backpeddle and change your tune now that you've been proven WRONG...why do you insist on trying to make a point when you clearly dont know what you're talking about?

Backpedaling?  Proven wrong?  Okay.  What exactly was I proven wrong about?

[Chick]

Okay, educate me.  Let's take Kai Greene as an example.  What would you say he makes in a year factoring in contest winnings, sponsor money, appearance fees, gay4pay, etc.  

You can start here...

[Chick]

You said that on average pros are spending $25-$30k/yr on gear, yet most are barely making that much in income.  Seems pretty sad to me.  In fact, it kinda reminds me of crack addicts.  Spending everything they have on drugs and when they can no longer afford the drugs, they turn to selling their bodies

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[Alexander D]

Chick, serious question... how much do you think Kai had to pay for that grapefruit?

LOL

-A DUB

[Chick]

A lot of you have PMd me asking this question, so I will answer it here.  No, I am not anti bodybuilding as I define it.  However, I am disgusted at what the "sport" is.

Some would argue that bodybuilding is a great "sport" because it's healthy, it makes you look better and if you're successful at it, it can provide fame & money.  However, the truth is that it's really not a sport, it is very unhealthy, it forces you to break the law, to the vast majority of the population you look disgusting, and it brings you fame only to Schmoes.  Of course, there is no money, even for the top professionals.

That said, I do enjoy "building my body".  I train with weights and eat a certain way so that I can have an athletic body that allows me to be strong, flexible, explosive and have strong muscle endurance. 

So, there it is. 

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[MindSpin]

You can start here...

I said there is no money in bodybuilding.  You admitted that only a handful of bodybuilders make okay money and the rest are spending more on drugs than they are earning.  How am I wrong?

[jaejonna]

So are you suggesting that the current Arnold Classic winner maybe getting protien from say the source still ?? Despite winning a hummer with 4 miles to the gallon and some cash hahahahaha I forgot he got a trophy too..... BB are just cattle for the homos

[Chick]

I said there is no money in bodybuilding.  You admitted that only a handful of bodybuilders make okay money and the rest are spending more on drugs than they are earning.  How am I wrong?

are you retarded?

comprehend for Godssake...and try and post what *I* write, not what YOU interperet

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

are you retarded?

comprehend for Godssake...and try and post what *I* write, not what YOU interperet

the guy is a clown chick,,,he is gonna back peddle you back to the future if he could,,,and say joe weider only 5 dolalrs for his publication as an example of making no money,,,

[Alexander D]

I think Chick has proven Mindspin wrong...

I also think the top guys make a good living for the years they are active for sure, and probably pretty well with appearances and endorsments after. A guy like Lee Haney, Ronnie, Dorian, although retired, still make big bucks i am sure... Yes these are past Mr. O's... but even Shawn Ray, Levrone, guys who never won, but were at the top of their day are probably still doing very well... Chick has never been a top 3 pro bodybuilder, but he has made a great living for himself keeping busy with MCing, apperances, being a rep for companies..

I'm not really sure what the point is?! It's obvious that not everyone can turn pro... Regardless of how many drugs they use (eg- Dave Palumbo)... and that it's probably pretty stupid to think you will make a living out of bodybuilding if you don't have a pro physique, or great genetics... but i see nothing wrong in people chasing after their "dream" of becoming a pro... Working a normal job like a personal trainer and spending all their money on juice and food...

-A DUB