What makes it a fact that Dorian would beat Ronnie?
Flex, Sept, 2005 by Peter McGough
Ronnie Coleman | 1999
In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart. That being said, I still think he achieved his best-ever physique for the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic.
Here is one person that you like to quote a lot. I know he thinks 2001 AC was Ronnie's best ever, but he also thinks that Ronnie at the 1999 Olympia was better than his 1998 appearance. Something you say its not possible.
Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder
"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."
Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49
Chris Lund (Paraphrased by Milos Sarcev) - European Flex, April 2004
"Chris Lund who I consider to be a great expert in our sport of bodybuilding, told me that Ronnie is simply the best bodybuilder he has ever seen, or photographed, and he has seen everybody, during the last 35 years."
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=237938.0
Oh, but you do enjoy quoting Lee Priest, Samir Bannout, Paul Dillet, etc. 
I think Paul wasn't considered one of the brightest bodybuilders and you enjoy quoting him.
Is it that pro bodybuilder's opinions are valid when they fit your agenda, but not so much when they say Ronnie is the greatest?
Flex didn't just say Ronnie was the heaviest Olympia winner with "pretty good conditioning", he said Ronnie was the "the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history".
This goes against your believe that Dorian was the biggest with the best conditioning.
What makes it a fact that Dorian would beat Ronnie?
I never said it was , I said it's a fact the criteria favors Yates and statistically Dorian would beat Ronnie
Flex, Sept, 2005 by Peter McGough
Ronnie Coleman | 1999
In his first defense of the Mr. O title, Coleman exhibited size, condition and sinew-splitting fullness he lacked a year earlier. At 257 pounds, he was so separated that he looked like a walking anatomy chart. That being said, I still think he achieved his best-ever physique for the 2001 Arnold Schwarzenegger Classic.
Here is one person that you like to quote a lot. I know he thinks 2001 AC was Ronnie's best ever, but he also thinks that Ronnie at the 1999 Olympia was better than his 1998 appearance. Something you say its not possible.
I said almost none , please show me where I said ' not possible ' he could think Ronnie 99 was better because he didn't have bitch tits , and in fact the point still stands his conditioning in 99 wasn't as good you can argue all you'd like to the contrary it doesn't change it
98/01 are very similar with the exception of bitch tits 249lbs in 98 , 247lbs in 01 , and totally dried out and hard as nails unlike 99 take your pick it's among the reasons why most think either are his best and next to nobody says 99
Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder
"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."
Team Flex - http://www.flexonline.com/training/49
Chris Lund (Paraphrased by Milos Sarcev) - European Flex, April 2004
"Chris Lund who I consider to be a great expert in our sport of bodybuilding, told me that Ronnie is simply the best bodybuilder he has ever seen, or photographed, and he has seen everybody, during the last 35 years."
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=237938.0
already been addressed a billion times over , see popular opinion and you'll get no argument from me it's more popular that people believe Ronnie is better
Oh, but you do enjoy quoting Lee Priest, Samir Bannout, Paul Dillet, etc. I think Paul wasn't considered one of the brightest bodybuilders and you enjoy quoting him.
Is it that pro bodybuilder's opinions are valid when they fit your agenda, but not so much when they say Ronnie is the greatest?
I'm not trying to pass them off as facts , merely alternatives to a popular opinion , learn the difference. and I learn the difference between between subjective and non-subjective topics , who is the better of the two from two different eras is very subjective
Flex didn't just say Ronnie was the heaviest Olympia winner with "pretty good conditioning", he said Ronnie was the "the biggest, hardest, most shredded Mr. Olympia in history".
This goes against your believe that Dorian was the biggest with the best conditioning.
Again did you miss the part where I said technically he is? did Dorian ever compete at that body weight at an Olympia? NO and again you're bitching about Paul not being a bright guy and then have the audacity to post Flex Wheeler as a credible source? LMFAO
Shawn Perine Ironage May 9 2009
Although I prefer the Reeves-Zane-Paris physique, I still contend that there was never a more complete, muscular human being to walk the earth than Dorian on the day Kevin Horton shot him pre-93 O. I was never so shocked by a set of bodybuilding photos as when I went through that article. Even Ronnie at his best, lacked Dorian's hardness and certainly his calves.Even Ronnie at his best lacked Dorian's hardness
Kevin Horoton GetBig Dec 30th
The photo is technically terrible, fortunately the physique is awesome.
I'd agree with Kris about Dorian showing up on stage how he looked a few weeks out. There are some shots of him at around 280 - 285 shredded. That conditioning has not been surpassed.Dorian shredded at 280-285 lbs and that conditioning HAS NOT BEEN SURPASSED !
you think Flex Wheeler negates these people? or Dorian who said specifically on this subject he was better conditioned that Ronnie?
While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.
On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.or this ? Ronnie was NEVER drier or HARDER than Dorian
it's apparent Ronnie couldn't touch Dorian in terms of conditioning period. and I've always entertained that perhaps he did and I was doing this for argument's sake it would only be at his lightest 98/01 any fool with half a brain and see his conditioning while good in 03 was NO WHERE near it was in 01/98
