Dorian Yates - overrated!

[Hulkster]

I don't know where you illiterate nuthuggers are getting that I said dorian would be made to look small by a 99 ronnie.

by a  2003 or 2004 ronnie hell yes.

but not a 99 one.

however, their structures are much different even though they were the same bodyweight if you compare 99 to 93.

dorian carried a lot of weight in his monster midsection, whereas ronnie did not. he had a reasonably trim waist.

[Royal Lion]

I don't know where you illiterate nuthuggers are getting that I said dorian would be made to look small by a 99 ronnie.

by a  2003 or 2004 ronnie hell yes.

but not a 99 one.

however, their structures are much different even though they were the same bodyweight if you compare 99 to 93.

dorian carried a lot of weight in his monster midsection, whereas ronnie did not. he had a reasonably trim waist.

[Hulkster]

try again:

just goes to show you what quality muscle can do on a bb stage.

ronnie is 257 and dorian is heavier at 263 in these shots.

but you'd never know it. look at the difference in quad size LOL

maybe ronnie could make dorian look small at similar bodyweights hahahaa

[Hulkster]

the other reason why the 2001 AC sticks out in everyone's mind for ronnie was the fact that, well, at the olympia he was standing next to Chris Cormier and Flex Wheeler.

at the AC he was standing next to Chris Cormier and.....Oleg Zhur and Darrem Charles..

lol

now, you tell me where ronnie is going to appear to be better?

the olympia lineup against the 10 best or the AC with two top names and a bunch of lower teir pros?

the answer is obvious:

chalk another one up for the human condition, and chalk up another win for the authenticity of the camera, which isn't subject to such tendenencies:

its so easy when you are always right..

[James28]

Jesus, Hulkster  I guarantee that no version or Ronnie would make Dorian look small.

 

I usually get bored to tears watching any bodybuilding video for more than 20sec, but I watched this one 3 times in a row now. Doz was fucking incredible.

God I miss the days when bodybuilding was interesting and you actively followed the contests.

[delta9mda]

I usually get bored to tears watching any bodybuilding video for more than 20sec, but I watched this one 3 times in a row now. Doz was fucking incredible.

God I miss the days when bodybuilding was interesting and you actively followed the contests.

i tried to tell you guys.

[Hulkster]

what a difference 5 years can make

[Shockwave]

what a difference 5 years can make

why are you posting this shit in a yates thread? Insecure about your hero? Pissed cause no one that matters thinks 99 is worth a shit and youhave to come up with 1001 excuses why people really DO think 99 is the greateast and why they don't really mean what they're all saying? Lol you are fuckin pathetic hulkster

[FREAKgeek]

Ronnie barely beat a sub-par Wheeler in 1998 to take the crown, so I guess he still sucked a little bit then too, eh?      And that was his best conditioned Olympia win. How about 2001? 2002? 2006?  

What made Wheeler so sub par in 1998? Not a sparring question, just would like to see for myself.

[Hulkster]

Pissed cause no one that matters thinks 99 is worth a shit

guy hero Peter Mcgough does. he thinks 99 is much better than your precious 98.

and its all documented in his article. hahahaha.

I love how there is nothing you can do to change Mcgough's words, and it eats you up inside.

driving you crazy isn't it?

lol

pretty soon you will be in an institution because peter mcgough feels 99 is better than 98 and you hate it.

hahahahaha

[Hulkster]

why are you posting this shit in a yates thread? Insecure about your hero?

because guy idiots are claiming that because ronnie got slaughtered by everyone including yates in the mid 90's that he would lose at his best also.

I am pointing out the obvious: ronnie sucked when dorian beat him relative to his Mr. Olympia presentations.

[Shockwave]

guy hero Peter Mcgough does. he thinks 99 is much better than your precious 98.

and its all documented in his article. hahahaha.

I love how there is nothing you can do to change Mcgough's words, and it eats you up inside.

driving you crazy isn't it?

lol

pretty soon you will be in an institution because peter mcgough feels 99 is better than 98 and you hate it.

hahahahaha

fucking lol!
A. Mcgough isn't my hero.
B. It doesn't bother me at all beause mcough (the ONLY person you can get
to agree with you, lol and he still doesn't, be feels 01 is ronnies best so you're self owned) also said ronnie couldn't beat 93 dorian.
Yet again you're self owned.

So stop projecting, you're the one it drives nuts, because No one that matters agrees with you, he one person that is even in the realm of agreeing said Dorian would beat him, and even then mcough doesn't think 99 was his best, he thinks 01 was.

Here's somethin else... Mcgough never said 99 would beat 98. He said 99 struck him because he was fuller. Fullness doesn't beat conditioning. You're trying to inference points mcgough never said. And he's on the record saying he's not as sharp in 99 as 98. lol. Your have to try and infer what he's saying because nothing ever agrees with you. Lol
So in closing, you're a retard, and you're pathetic because nothing but you're opinion. Sad sad sad.

[Hulkster]

Mcgough never said 99 would beat 98.

You're trying to inference points mcgough never said

no, I don't have to infer anything.

99 is on his list of the greatest Mr. O physiques.
98 isn't.

hence, Mcgough believes 99 is BETTER than 98.

which means he believes 99 would BEAT 98.

its plain as day.

can't be any more clear than that.

sorry.

I know the average guy has serious comprehension problems when it comes to reading and logic, but even they should be able to understand this simple fact.

[Hulkster]

I think Mcgough needs to authorize some 'Cliff notes' for his article, because clearly your typical guy like flowerboy and cockwave have no clue about what was said in it..

they are so clueless they think that McGough believes 98 was better than 99 even though he purposely chose to omit 98 and sing the praises of 1999...

LOL

how stupid can you get?

let me help you nuthuggers:

IF mcgough felt 98 was better and 98 would beat 99, this is what would happen:

it would have been on the list instead of 99 dumbasses!!



 

[Hulkster]

I mean honestly, forget about dorian vs ronnie for a minute.

the fact that you guys can't even understand simple things as outlined in his article is appalling.

didn't you guys ever learn how to read a paragraph and answer questions about it in school?

the lack of simple reading comprehension skills displayed in this thread is disappointing to say the least..

[Shockwave]

I mean honestly, forget about dorian vs ronnie for a minute.

the fact that you guys can't even understand simple things as outlined in his article is appalling.

didn't you guys ever learn how to read a paragraph and answer questions about it in school?

the lack of simple reading comprehension skills displayed in this thread is disappointing to say the least..

hahahahaha! Were not the ones that have to try and rewordmwhat someone says to try and validiy our opinion, or try and ignore what is written inthe paragraph (01 is better than 99) and try and pass it off. Hulkster the only guy that says 99 was a great showing also said 93 Dorian would beat Ronnie. So please. Go ahead and try and argue why mcough is right and a credible source. I dare you.

[JP_RC]

lol, you do get offended when Hulkster says something bad about Dorian don't you?

[JP_RC]

try again:

just goes to show you what quality muscle can do on a bb stage.

ronnie is 257 and dorian is heavier at 263 in these shots.

but you'd never know it. look at the difference in quad size LOL

maybe ronnie could make dorian look small at similar bodyweights hahahaa

Exactly, that is why I think bodyweight is not all that important as to how a bodybuilder looks on stage or if he is the best or not.
Look how a lighter Shawn Ray looks like next to a heavier Dorian in this shot:

[Shockwave]

Exactly, that is why I think bodyweight is not all that important as to how a bodybuilder looks on stage or if he is the best or not.
Look how a lighter Shawn Ray looks like next to a heavier Dorian in this shot:

lol at this comparison. Cause Shawn is as wide as Dorian right? Haha. Awesome comparison. I swear you're a carbon copy of hulkster. You have all the same viewpoints and you're obsessed with the most muscular. You even argue the same points he does. Lol.

[FREAKgeek]

lol at this comparison. Cause Shawn is as wide as Dorian right? Haha. Awesome comparison. I swear you're a carbon copy of hulkster. You have all the same viewpoints and you're obsessed with the most muscular. You even argue the same points he does. Lol.

translation : I know he's getting beat, so I have to play the scale card.

[JP_RC]

lol at this comparison. Cause Shawn is as wide as Dorian right? Haha. Awesome comparison. I swear you're a carbon copy of hulkster. You have all the same viewpoints and you're obsessed with the most muscular. You even argue the same points he does. Lol.

So let's say the scale is not 100% right because Shawn looks just as wide as Dorian. Does that change how Shawn's arms, delts and chest look in comparison to Dorian? Does it change how Shawn's conditioning is next to Dorian?
Does it change that despite being lighter and shorter, Shawn is beating Dorian in that shot?

[JP_RC]

you're obsessed with the most muscular.

Do you want another pose? How about the BDB (one of Dorian's strong points)

[Royal Lion]

 

[Royal Lion]

Ray had a great rbd, but Dorian owned him in that pose...way more size and equal or better condition.

[JP_RC]

Ronnie was no doubt improved in 1998 vs previous years, but he didn't reinvent himself.  He tightened up his conditioning and looked very good, and every bit a deserving winner, but even then barely squeaked out a win over a less than best Flex Wheeler.  In contrast, Yates obliterated everyone, even while they were in better shape than when Ronnie inevitably faced them as champion.  Ronnie placed a distant 9th to a less than best Yates in 1997.  Precisely what would make one believe that suddenly Ronnie would have leapfrogged Dorian, had Dorian competed in 1998, or subsequent years?  Losing the pre-judging to Jay in 2001?  The close call to Levrone in 2002?  Losing the GNC to Gunter?  Losing the Olympia to Jay in 2006?  His extreme mass and substandard conditioning in 2003?

Ronnie was no doubt improved in 1998 vs previous years, but he didn't reinvent himself.  He tightened up his conditioning and looked very good, and every bit a deserving winner,

Are you saying Ronnie was not bigger/fuller in 1999 as opposed to the previous years?

Losing the pre-judging to Jay in 2001?  The close call to Levrone in 2002?  Losing the GNC to Gunter?  Losing the Olympia to Jay in 2006?  His extreme mass and substandard conditioning in 2003?

None of those are Ronnie's best appearances with the exception of 2003.