Dorian Yates - overrated!

[JP_RC]

Ronnie beat Mike Mattarazzo your point is wrong ( deservedly so )

and my point Ronnie's weak calves would be a major liability if they competed at their primes together and these guys are making excuses for Ronnie's two missing calves while harping on Yates shorter bicep by claiming his entire arm is missing 

Ronnie beat Mike Mattarazzo your point is wrong ( deservedly so )

Yet placed how much lower than Ronnie?
I was talking about his top competition, since its the only that truly matters as they were the closest to him. Take a look at the top 6 in the 98 or 99 Olympia, no one had great calves.

and my point Ronnie's weak calves would be a major liability if they competed at their primes together and these guys are making excuses for Ronnie's two missing calves while harping on Yates shorter bicep by claiming his entire arm is missing 

True against Dorian, but you were saying that Ronnie won the Olympia on "missing calves". I just pointed out that those  "missing calves" weren't that much of a problem since none of his top competition had great calves.
Dorian on the other hand was the only one with a torn bicep/smaller left arm in the top 6 at the 1994 Olympia.

Are you now going to say I was forced to amend my original statement? 

[NarcissisticDeity]

I was talking about your statement of Ronnie losing that shot to Flex.......

yet you mentioned Yates

[NarcissisticDeity]

if Dorian's arms aren't small, then Ronnie's calves aren't small. It works both ways

Nonsense it does and you're still missing the point it isn't about size alone

[NarcissisticDeity]

It seems you did.......

I don't think I ever said that.
If I remember correctly I said his overall physique in 99 was better, but I've changed my mind on this now.

Don't you follow this "gang" around instead?

I didn't if it were accurate than maybe you'd be working with something

I think you did either way it's not important because I'm glad you see the light , now we need to work on the rest of your inaccuracies

no the gang follows me and Dorian Yates name , you included

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yet placed how much lower than Ronnie?
I was talking about his top competition, since its the only that truly matters as they were the closest to him. Take a look at the top 6 in the 98 or 99 Olympia, no one had great calves.

True against Dorian, but you were saying that Ronnie won the Olympia on "missing calves". I just pointed out that those  "missing calves" weren't that much of a problem since none of his top competition had great calves.
Dorian on the other hand was the only one with a torn bicep/smaller left arm in the top 6 at the 1994 Olympia.

Are you now going to say I was forced to amend my original statement? 

Yet placed how much lower than Ronnie?
I was talking about his top competition, since its the only that truly matters as they were the closest to him. Take a look at the top 6 in the 98 or 99 Olympia, no one had great calves.

There you go again , how am I supposed to know what you were talking about? you always amend your statements , I can only go by what you typed and what you typed wasn't accurate

True against Dorian, but you were saying that Ronnie won the Olympia on "missing calves". I just pointed out that those  "missing calves" weren't that much of a problem since none of his top competition had great calves.
Dorian on the other hand was the only one with a torn bicep/smaller left arm in the top 6 at the 1994 Olympia.

I've said many times that if everyone has missing calves it's not an issue , and regarding Dorian's bicep in 94 his overall package was so  dominating that the shorter bicep made ' no overall difference ' like Ronnie's calves in relation to who he was competing with , however if faced next to an uninjured Dorian they are major liabilities even next to a post-tear Dorian

[NeoSeminole]

Nonsense it does and you're still missing the point it isn't about size alone

not really. I pointed out that Ronnie's calves weren't small to which you asked me a bunch of questions. I could ask you the same about Dorian's arms. The fact is Ronnie's calves were not "missing" by any means. I've even shown they were nearly the same size as Jay Cutler's, who is known for his calves. So your comment is nonsense and clearly deceitful

[FREAKgeek]

There is an obvious difference between one bicep shorter than another and female breast tissue on the worlds best built man , if you can't see that that's on you. Ronnie loses that shot compared to Dorian because he's not as hard or as dry and because he lags behind on balance & proportion and muscular bulk ontop of him not having any bitch-tits

I believe the gyno was only there one year, he took care of it.

 Personally, I find Dorian's right chest/biceps varicose vein problems more distracting (paul dillet syndrome). It takes away any appearance of aesthetics, and removes his image of balance and proportion which you praise so highly of.
 

[Hulkster]

RC truly looks awful in the shot that NeoSemen posted. I know he isn't really posing but to my eyes he looks kind of deformed and flat like a pancake. A lot worse than a relaxed DY whichever year you pick. BTW I think that Coleman could easily get a job advertising for Cadbury now that his bodybuilding career is over. In fact it looks like he already has.

are you serious?


 

[Hulkster]

Dorian dominated in a way Coleman NEVER did you can deny this fact as well it still doesn't change it.

Coleman had not replicated the dominance of Haney and Yates. He always seemed slightly vulnerable, protected as much by protocol as his physique

correction: he dominated on paper only. not onstage.

he should have lost 1994 (to shawn) and 1997 (to either shawn or nasser depending on who you ask)


thats not dominating. thats being given undisputed gifts.

but the judges looked the other way and he won. look no further than the classic comment from the judges about how his torn bi made no overall difference LOL

you don't get any more partial than that folks..

[musclepost]

Getbigs hottest new blossoming romance: Hulkster and ND, sending secret PMs to one another in passionate, forbidden homosexual lust!  They love roleplaying "Dorian vs Ronnie" with each other!

[James28]

Hulkster, you fucking dumbass. What does it do for your credibility posting pictures of a relaxed Dorian as an example of his inferiority? Do you actually think, you moron, that anyone buys that crap you're peddling. Give it up already troll, Ronnie gave best to Dorian and most disappointing at all to you kiddo, Ronnie doesn't appear to be gay, so now you're reduced to trolling positions so fucking outrageous that it beggars the mind. Stop posting for a week, sit down and rethink matters carefully. I'm serious. There is nothing for you to gain any further now that your hero casted himself the second best (or lower?) ever. You cannot argue with Ronnie's words. You don't know him any better than he knows himself and his abilities. Now scram, loser.

[Hulkster]

LOL like he looks any better flexing..

he still should have lost those two olympias...

 

epic fail.

[mesmorph78]

LOL like he looks any better flexing..

he still should have lost those two olympias...

 

epic fail.

Dorian had a ugly phsique .... Horrible

[Emmortal]

sorry who is crying he had great arms? NO ONE just better than you're giving him credit I just posted numerous pics where you clearly contradict your claim of being ' non-existent '

Dorian didn't have great ' arms ' but his side triceps sure kicks the shit out Ronnies , he may have not had a small waist & hips but his ab-thigh kicks the shit out of Ronnie's , keep your paper-advantage in parts it doesn't mean they have the best pose and that's how it's done.

I didn't say non existent, I said unimpressive.  You should pay more attention to whom you are replying.  I wouldn't say kicks the shit out of Ronnies, Ronnies wasn't the greatest side tricep, but it by far was not kicked the shit out of by Yates.  Go ahead and post some shitty shots of Coleman and Hulkster will post some shitty shots of Yates, blah blah blah.

I don't even know what you are talking about "paper advantage" or "abs and thighs" post since I was clearly talking about arms and only arms.

[JasonH]

ROFLMAO @ THREAD TITLE CHANGE

x2! 

[James28]

Hulkster, care to post less selective pictures of Yates and slightly better ones you gay troll? Or shall I start posting pictures of Ronnie's gut even while is flexing and sucking it in?

[JP_RC]

yet you mentioned Yates

What???

I commented on Dorian's great pic and then posted a pic of Ronnie crushing Flex in 98 commenting on how crazy it is to say it was a close contest.
You then said Ronnie loses that shot (I assumed to Flex) due to his "bitch tits".

[JP_RC]

There you go again , how am I supposed to know what you were talking about? you always amend your statements , I can only go by what you typed and what you typed wasn't accurate

I've said many times that if everyone has missing calves it's not an issue , and regarding Dorian's bicep in 94 his overall package was so  dominating that the shorter bicep made ' no overall difference ' like Ronnie's calves in relation to who he was competing with , however if faced next to an uninjured Dorian they are major liabilities even next to a post-tear Dorian

There you go again , how am I supposed to know what you were talking about? you always amend your statements , I can only go by what you typed and what you typed wasn't accurate

I thought you would be clever enough to understand what I meant. I mean, its not very hard to understand that the top competition is the only one that matters.
I didn't think I had to explain everythin so detailed.........

I've said many times that if everyone has missing calves it's not an issue , and regarding Dorian's bicep in 94 his overall package was so  dominating that the shorter bicep made ' no overall difference ' like Ronnie's calves in relation to who he was competing with , however if faced next to an uninjured Dorian they are major liabilities even next to a post-tear Dorian

If you agree Ronnie's calves were not an issue and he was so dominating to his competition, then why did you make such a big deal out of Ronnie winning on "missing calves"?

[JP_RC]

Hulkster, you fucking dumbass. What does it do for your credibility posting pictures of a relaxed Dorian as an example of his inferiority? Do you actually think, you moron, that anyone buys that crap you're peddling. Give it up already troll, Ronnie gave best to Dorian and most disappointing at all to you kiddo, Ronnie doesn't appear to be gay, so now you're reduced to trolling positions so fucking outrageous that it beggars the mind. Stop posting for a week, sit down and rethink matters carefully. I'm serious. There is nothing for you to gain any further now that your hero casted himself the second best (or lower?) ever. You cannot argue with Ronnie's words. You don't know him any better than he knows himself and his abilities. Now scram, loser.

Why do you get so upset when Hulkster posts a bad pic of Dorian?

[Royal Lion]

Hulkster, care to post less selective pictures of Yates and slightly better ones you gay troll? Or shall I start posting pictures of Ronnie's gut even while is flexing and sucking it in?

Typical Hulkster antics -- face it, deep down he knows that peak Dorian vs. peak Ronnie would go either way, just like those of us who are normal do.  Yet he has pushed himself into denial of this because for some creepy reason it is too painful for him to accept.  I mean this man has dedicated a significant portion of his life to defending his hero on the internet.  And the only way he can prove his bullshit claims is by showing pics of Dorian when Dorian is not in a pose and compare them to the best pic he can find of Ronnie.  It's both sad & laughable.

[JP_RC]

Typical Hulkster antics -- face it, deep down he knows that peak Dorian vs. peak Ronnie would go either way, just like those of us who are normal do.  Yet he has pushed himself into denial of this because for some creepy reason it is too painful for him to accept.  I mean this man has dedicated a significant portion of his life to defending his hero on the internet.  And the only way he can prove his bullshit claims is by showing pics of Dorian when Dorian is not in a pose and compare them to the best pic he can find of Ronnie.  It's both sad & laughable.

Its good to see a pro Dorian guy in here with a little sense. I have to agree with you.

To ND however, peak Dorian vs peak Ronnie would be a 100% Dorian win and not even close. 

[JP_RC]

Shipsekkie why do you keep changing the thread name so much?

[NarcissisticDeity]

I thought you would be clever enough to understand what I meant. I mean, its not very hard to understand that the top competition is the only one that matters.
I didn't think I had to explain everythin so detailed.........

If you agree Ronnie's calves were not an issue and he was so dominating to his competition, then why did you make such a big deal out of Ronnie winning on "missing calves"?

I thought you would be clever enough to understand what I meant. I mean, its not very hard to understand that the top competition is the only one that matters.
I didn't think I had to explain everythin so detailed.........

Don't blame me for your comments , you made a base claim and when pushed on it your response is ' that's not what I meant ' type what you mean

If you agree Ronnie's calves were not an issue and he was so dominating to his competition, then why did you make such a big deal out of Ronnie winning on "missing calves"?

Ronnie one wasn't dominating to his competition , he may have been on a few occasions but he never dominated like Yates or Haney. And it's a big deal because we're comparing Ronnie to Dorian and his lack of calves are a major liability in comparison

[NarcissisticDeity]

Its good to see a pro Dorian guy in here with a little sense. I have to agree with you.

To ND however, peak Dorian vs peak Ronnie would be a 100% Dorian win and not even close. 

There you go again making assumptions on what I feel . depending on the year Ronnie would give Dorian a run for his money but in the end Dorian has to many advantages , I always maintained there were only two guys at their best who could beat Dorian and that's Flex & Ronnie

so once again we have you drawing faulty conclusions ( like I based my opinion of the 98 Olympia only off the score card ) based on inaccuracy

[NarcissisticDeity]

not really. I pointed out that Ronnie's calves weren't small to which you asked me a bunch of questions. I could ask you the same about Dorian's arms. The fact is Ronnie's calves were not "missing" by any means. I've even shown they were nearly the same size as Jay Cutler's, who is known for his calves. So your comment is nonsense and clearly deceitful

Ronnie's calves are small , they're small for a bodybuilder of 257 pounds , they're small in comparison to Dorian. Ronnie's calves are missing as well , like I've explained to you before they're missing classic diamond shape , they're missing low insertions , and they're missing great separation of the inner & outer heads , you honestly can't deny this

And Jay is not known for his calves , where you got this is beyond me , his calves maybe in 03 the same size as Jay's however that's where the comparison stops and that's entertaining it's even true , Jay isn't Dorian by the way who really was known for his calves