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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #100 on: April 26, 2010, 07:30:23 AM »
They literally line the streets near where I am.  Between the drug dealing, DWI's, child sex crimes, flop houses, etc, they are definately a net drain.   

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #101 on: April 26, 2010, 07:35:51 AM »
They literally line the streets near where I am.  Between the drug dealing, DWI's, child sex crimes, flop houses, etc, they are definately a net drain.   

You have Smithfield Foods and Tyson Foods to thank for that!

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #102 on: April 26, 2010, 07:38:02 AM »
You have Smithfield Foods and Tyson Foods to thank for that!

Fine, lets drop the hammer on them mercilessly. 

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #103 on: April 26, 2010, 05:02:10 PM »
You have Smithfield Foods and Tyson Foods to thank for that!
As well as Home Depot and tons of tree trimming, yard mowing "businesses".
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #104 on: April 27, 2010, 04:55:31 AM »
April 27, 2010
The Arizona Uproar
www.americanthinker.com

By Leo W. Banks

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Listening to the national uproar, you'd be forgiven for thinking that Arizona has marched into the civil rights apocalypse with its new state law cracking down on illegal immigrants.

Last Friday, Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed SB1070, making it a crime to be in the state illegally and requiring cops, where "reasonable suspicion" exists, to determine a person's legal status.

Rev. Al Sharpton is promising to come to Arizona to march, the New York Times says that the state has gone "off the deep end," and the Nazi references are flying. Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony likened SB1070 to "German Nazi and Russian Communist techniques."

Riding the noise for political advantage, President Obama is summoning his Justice Department to look into the matter, saying that the law would "undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as Americans."

But 70 percent of Arizona residents support the law, according to Rasmussen.

What's going on here? Do we know something the rest of the country doesn't?

Actually, we do. Context is everything, and it'd be nice if the national media provided some, rather than simply slamming Arizona as a redneck haven filled with nativists and bubbas with a hankering for racial profiling.

An estimated 500,000 illegal aliens live in Arizona, and many are decent folks, to be sure. But the border is still wide open, and many more are coming. Last year in Border Patrol's 262-mile-wide Tucson Sector, agents arrested 241,000 illegal aliens, a drop of more than 130,000 from 2007.

It sounds great until you understand that gotaways outnumber arrests by three to one.

Does the country realize this, or have the people bought Janet Napolitano's political fairy tale that border security has been "transformed" from where we were in 2007?

As Obama lectures Arizona, citizens here await his decision on an urgent request to send three thousand National Guard troops to the border. Senators John McCain and Jon Kyl recently asked for soldiers, as did Democratic Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, to bring some security to American citizens being hammered by cross-border smugglers and thugs.

Here's an important bit of context: This isn't your father's illegal immigration, when polite farm workers offered to do chores in return for some water and a sandwich as they walked north. Today, the drug cartels have taken over the people-smuggling business. They own the trails into the country and dominate the land, the same way urban gangs control neighborhoods

Any group wanting in has to deal with them, and the going rate is $2,500 per person. If you don't have the cash, the cartel coyote will offer to bring you in for free if you carry his dope. As Cochise County Sheriff Larry Dever testified to the Senate Homeland Security Committee last week, most of the groups coming up now have a gun behind them.

Along the Chiricahua Corridor smuggling route north and east of Douglas, Arizona, residents have been screaming for some time about break-ins, threats, intimidation, vandalism, and home invasions. But the feds did nothing to keep citizens safe. Instead, they talked amnesty. Then the inevitable happened.

On March 27, Cochise County rancher Rob Krentz was murdered on his land, presumably by a drug smuggler. The death occurred on a well-known drug trail, and trackers followed the killer's prints back into Mexico. He is still at large.

Now, I can't argue with those who say that SB1070 has some provisions that smack of desperation -- such as making it a crime to stop your car to pick up a day laborer or to enter a stopped car to get temporary work. That sounds impossible to enforce.

But critics also say that it will have no impact on besieged residents of southern Arizona, and I disagree. It could help.

We have a huge problem with crooks coming up from Mexico to our cities and towns, committing crimes, and bolting back south of the border. Not long ago, I wrote a story that backtracked the records of two of these border coyotes and found that between them, they'd been arrested and released by either law enforcement or the courts a total of 35 times.

One was let go after a traffic stop, and the other had worked construction in Phoenix for years. If this law had been in effect, the police might've been able to get them off the street before they were able to lead more groups into southern Arizona, break into homes, and frighten citizens.

Civil rights? What about the civil right of American citizens to drive up to their homes at night and have some reasonable assurance that no one is inside?

On March 31, four hundred people gathered outside the one-room Apache School to tell their elected reps what it's like to live in smuggler-occupied territory. The meeting was held there, in the cold, open air, in part because the nearest place to host a group that size inside was seventy round-trip miles away, and these folks didn't feel comfortable leaving their homes for that length of time.

They live by a rule of thumb: If you leave your house empty, it will be occupied by illegals or drug smugglers. We're not talking just about homes five miles from the international line. We're talking about homes up to sixty miles north of the border.

Racial profiling doesn't matter much when you're in a fight to preserve your way of life and keep your family and property safe. Let me give you a different perspective on racial profiling. Now, when Border Patrol chases down and arrests illegals south of I-10, everybody says, "Atta boy. Good police work."

But if these crossers put a toe north of I-10, they're home free. Except for Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio, nobody is looking for them, and if you do, it's racial profiling.           

The farther you get from the line, the more people want to make this problem about race. It's the ground the left wants to fight on because it's so effective. Political correctness shuts people up and keeps the border open.

Arizona has had enough and seen enough. This bill, admittedly flawed, motivated in part by anger and frustration, is an effort to step in and do something about a serious national problem on our southern border that grows more dangerous all the time.

But the national media largely ignore it because it offers up the wrong victims and the wrong politics. They don't send reporters out to Arizona get the story, to walk the smuggling trails, to sit with beleaguered Americans at their kitchen tables and understand the torment their lives have become.


Instead, they adopt the preening pose of the self-righteous, screaming from a safe distance about the bubbas. All 70 percent of them.

It's more fun than context.


Leo W. Banks covers the border for Tucson Weekly.

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #105 on: April 27, 2010, 08:20:34 PM »
How about charging and arresting businesses that hire illegals.

No job opportunity, no reason to cross a border.
But then what would corporate farms, gardening businesses, nanny's, restaurants do withou the illegals?


GWB understood this, that is why he was for amnesty.
Walmart, et el would like to keep their workers underpaid and benefit free.

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #106 on: April 27, 2010, 08:25:45 PM »
How about charging and arresting businesses that hire illegals.

No job opportunity, no reason to cross a border.
But then what would corporate farms, gardening businesses, nanny's, restaurants do withou the illegals?


GWB understood this, that is why he was for amnesty.
Walmart, et el would like to keep their workers underpaid and benefit free.

Sandra
common misconception...many illegals would still be here and many illegals would still come across the border...we give them free health care...they have areas of self sustaining illegal communities...

and you will NEVER NEVER NEVER be able to eliminate companies that hire illegals ther will ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be companies that try to skirt the law in regards to this...

going after companies that hire illegals is only one part of the solutions not THE PART

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #107 on: April 27, 2010, 08:28:45 PM »
Even if it is just "part of the problem"  Illegal is illegal.
No one gets a pass.

If you aren't paying "taxes" for your employess/paying under the table, you are just as bad as the immigrants from all nations in this country illegally.

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #108 on: April 27, 2010, 08:44:06 PM »
Even if it is just "part of the problem"  Illegal is illegal.
No one gets a pass.

If you aren't paying "taxes" for your employess/paying under the table, you are just as bad as the immigrants from all nations in this country illegally.

Sandra
oh I agree i just think we should be realistic is all...

ive heard the "just get rid of the companie hiring them and they will go away" line so many times over the past couple days is amazing. Like ive said those who really believe that do not understand the ins and outs of this problem.

secure the borders, go after the companies that hire them, deport the illegals that you come across, get rid of the anchor baby bs...these are just a few of the things that need to be done in order to address the multiple angles of this problem

doing only one assures failure

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #109 on: April 28, 2010, 04:21:56 AM »
I despise when politicians do things to keep themselves in office.

GWB was right in thinking that if you allow the illegals a way to get legalization, it would have been a start to working on this problem.

This a country of immigrants.  Illegals have been here from the start.  Deporting them all and is impossible.  Building a wall? Unless it is another Great wall of China, there will always be a way to get in,over, under or around it.

Protect the borders?  Utilize the militias.
Fine the companies that hire them.  If companies hired citizens, unemployment would go down.
But then, the companies would have to pay a decent wage and add some sort of benefits package.
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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #110 on: April 28, 2010, 07:10:59 AM »
I despise when politicians do things to keep themselves in office.

GWB was right in thinking that if you allow the illegals a way to get legalization, it would have been a start to working on this problem.

This a country of immigrants.  Illegals have been here from the start.  Deporting them all and is impossible.  Building a wall? Unless it is another Great wall of China, there will always be a way to get in,over, under or around it.

Protect the borders?  Utilize the militias.
Fine the companies that hire them.  If companies hired citizens, unemployment would go down.
But then, the companies would have to pay a decent wage and add some sort of benefits package.
Sandra

Yeah, a country of immigrants that got in line and did it the right way and realized that they were now Americans and we do have our own way of life here.  The amount of illegal immigrants is estimated to be in the millions in this country.  Amnesty is nothing but a forgiveness for a bunch of law breakers...how would they enforce the penalties with amnesty?  Would they start to enforce our laws and our border after amnesty?  If you think that than I'm sorry but you don't have a grasp of the problem.  While the business part may be a part of the solution it isn't the solution as those same businesses would continue to break the law by hiring Americans under the table, which is obviously still breaking the law. 

Illegals have a way to get legalization; all they have to do is get in line and wait their turn.  We already grant more legal immigrants into this country than the rest of the world combined!  Funny you don't hear that in the news.  Arizona is obviously desperate to control the problem and I don't think we have any right to jump down on them because of the extreme measure they are taking to not just protect this country, but to protect their homes as the minutemen have been doing for some time. 

It has to suck knowing you might come home to an armed intruder just because you went out for a while.  Thank God those people now have true Constitutional carry. 

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #111 on: April 28, 2010, 07:16:41 AM »
Another thing:

1.  Why should we give amnesty to those whose first action is breaking the law and showing a disdain for our laws? 

2.  Do you guys realize that illegal aliens commit many other crimes such as identity theft, fraud, etc just to maintain their illegal status?

3.  What is to stop a new flood of 20 million illegals from coming here?

4.  What is the difference between full amnesty and "going to the back of the line" so long as they can stay here?

5.  Is it fair that millions are doing this the right way, paying thousdands in fees and costs and waiting in line while these criminals flaunt the law? 

 

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #112 on: August 31, 2016, 09:37:13 PM »
Remember my idea of breaking 1 leg and returning them to the southernmost tip of mexico, and seeing how many can make the journey a second time?  :)


HAHAHA THIS was back in 2010.  Trump adopted my idea of dropping them off very very far away tonight.

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Re: 70% of Arizona Voters Favor New State Measure Cracking Down On Illegals
« Reply #113 on: August 31, 2016, 09:44:30 PM »
Exactly. If there were 26 million zips from Italy doing this same crap, I would probably join the calzone patrol myself. 

LOL@ Calzone Patrol!!  haha awesome!