More NAILS in the ORGANIC FOOD Coffin-162 studies for 50 years-no difference.

[The True Adonis]

The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition last year published a study of 162 scientific papers from the past 50 years on the health benefits of organically grown foods and found no nutritional advantage over conventionally grown foods.

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/ajcn.2009.28041v1

Am J Clin Nutr (July 29, 2009). doi:10.3945/ajcn.2009.28041

© 2009 American Society for Clinical Nutrition
Nutritional quality of organic foods: a systematic review1,2,3,4

Alan D Dangour, Sakhi K Dodhia, Arabella Hayter, Elizabeth Allen, Karen Lock and Ricardo Uauy
1 From the Nutrition and Public Health Intervention Research Unit (ADD, SKD, AH, and RU) and the Medical Statistics Unit (EA), Department of Epidemiology and Population Health, London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, London, United Kingdom, and the Health Services Research Unit, Department of Public Health and Policy, London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, London, UK (KL).

2 The funding organization had no role in the study design, data collection, analysis, interpretation, or writing of the report. The review team held 6 progress meetings with the funding organization.

3 Supported by the UK Food Standards Agency (PAU221).

4 Address correspondence to AD Dangour, Nutrition and Public Health Intervention Research Unit, Department of Epidemiology and Population Health, London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, Keppel Street, London WC1E 7HT, United Kingdom. E-mail: alan.dangour@lshtm.ac.uk.

ABSTRACT

Background: Despite growing consumer demand for organically produced foods, information based on a systematic review of their nutritional quality is lacking.

Objective: We sought to quantitatively assess the differences in reported nutrient content between organically and conventionally produced foodstuffs.

Design: We systematically searched PubMed, Web of Science, and CAB Abstracts for a period of 50 y from 1 January 1958 to 29 February 2008, contacted subject experts, and hand-searched bibliographies. We included peer-reviewed articles with English abstracts in the analysis if they reported nutrient content comparisons between organic and conventional foodstuffs. Two reviewers extracted study characteristics, quality, and data. The analyses were restricted to the most commonly reported nutrients.

Results: From a total of 52,471 articles, we identified 162 studies (137 crops and 25 livestock products); 55 were of satisfactory quality. In an analysis that included only satisfactory quality studies, conventionally produced crops had a significantly higher content of nitrogen, and organically produced crops had a significantly higher content of phosphorus and higher titratable acidity. No evidence of a difference was detected for the remaining 8 of 11 crop nutrient categories analyzed. Analysis of the more limited database on livestock products found no evidence of a difference in nutrient content between organically and conventionally produced livestock products.

Conclusions: On the basis of a systematic review of studies of satisfactory quality, there is no evidence of a difference in nutrient quality between organically and conventionally produced foodstuffs. The small differences in nutrient content detected are biologically plausible and mostly relate to differences in production methods.

Received for publication May 7, 2009. Accepted for publication July 2, 2009.

[gcb]

This is a little be of a red herring - the main reasons not to eat non-organic foods is because of the additives, pesticides, etc. This study does not address that.

[The True Adonis]

This is a little be of a red herring - the main reasons not to eat non-organic foods is because of the additives, pesticides, etc. This study does not address that.

Wrong.

The USDA and Mayo Clinic report that there is no health risk and in some cases Organic Farming produces more of a risk due to the inability to fight crop disease.

[The True Adonis]

This is a little be of a red herring - the main reasons not to eat non-organic foods is because of the additives, pesticides, etc. This study does not address that.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/04/26/attention_whole_foods_shoppers?page=0,2

Health professionals also reject the claim that organic food is safer to eat due to lower pesticide residues. Food and Drug Administration surveys have revealed that the highest dietary exposures to pesticide residues on foods in the United States are so trivial (less than one one-thousandth of a level that would cause toxicity) that the safety gains from buying organic are insignificant. Pesticide exposures remain a serious problem in the developing world, where farm chemical use is not as well regulated, yet even there they are more an occupational risk for unprotected farmworkers than a residue risk for food consumers.

[SAMSON123]

Sadly just like your FDA...which is no more than a prostitute for the Pharmaceutical industry. The food industry: Cargill, Tyson, ADM etc etc are run by chemical giants  like of Monsanto, Dow, Dupont etc etc. These companies thrive and are built on CHEMICALS and therefore make their profits off of selling their goods (chemicals) to other business'. Monsanto in particular has play a major role in the POISONING of the worlds food and crops. While on the surface it may appear that the food is safe, in no way could food sprayed with herbicides, pesticides, fungicides, grown with petrochemical created fertilizers, hybridized with genetic material from humans, rodents and animals, genetically modified and on top of all of that IRRADIATED to make sure it causes maximum damage or death to the consumer, be safe to eat. These articles are the same as the reports turned out by the pharmaceutical giants that say their medicine is safe only to find out a few years later and many deaths later that they are not. THis article is trying to quell fears and defeat knowledge and even common sense that tells of teh dangers of all of these chemicals that have been added to food, crops, soil, water, air etc and are killing people and causing disease the world over.

Notice also in the last fifty years the tremendous upsurge in cancer, diabetes, strokes, heart attacks, Alzheimer, Parkinson, multiple sclerosis, dementia, birth defects, autism, retardation, allergies, asthma just to name a few. This upswing happened at exactly the same time the massive infusion of chemicals in to the worlds diets, crops, water, soil and air occured.....

Watch the documentary FOOD Inc, World According To Monsanto, War On Food, etc etc

[The True Adonis]

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/organic-food/NU00255/NSECTIONGROUP=2
Nutrition.

 No conclusive evidence shows that organic food is more nutritious than is conventionally grown food. And the USDA — even though it certifies organic food — doesn't claim that these products are safer or more nutritious.

[The True Adonis]

Sadly just like your FDA...which is no more than a prostitute for the Pharmaceutical industry. The food industry: Cargill, Tyson, ADM etc etc are run by chemical giants  like of Monsanto, Dow, Dupont etc etc. These companies thrive and are built on CHEMICALS and therefore make their profits off of selling their goods (chemicals) to other business'. Monsanto in particular has play a major role in the POISONING of the worlds food and crops. While on the surface it may appear that the food is safe, in no way could food sprayed with herbicides, pesticides, fungicides, grown with petrochemical created fertilizers, hybridized with genetic material from humans, rodents and animals, genetically modified and on top of all of that IRRADIATED to make sure it causes maximum damage or death to the consumer, be safe to eat. These articles are the same as the reports turned out by the pharmaceutical giants that say their medicine is safe only to find out a few years later and many deaths later that they are not. THis article is trying to quell fears and defeat knowledge and even common sense that tells of teh dangers of all of these chemicals that have been added to food, crops, soil, water, air etc and are killing people and causing disease the world over.

Notice also in the last fifty years the tremendous upsurge in cancer, diabetes, strokes, heart attacks, Alzheimer, Parkinson, multiple sclerosis, dementia, birth defects, autism, retardation, allergies, asthma just to name a few. This upswing happened at exactly the same time the massive infusion of chemicals in to the worlds diets, crops, water, soil and air occured.....

Watch the documentary FOOD Inc, World According To Monsanto, War On Food, etc etc

Sadly, you give in to conspiracy theories.

SCIENCE, FACT and EVIDENCE are NOT on your side. 

[Bindare_Dundat]

TA uses DDT as underarm deodorant and eats chocolate covered lead chips for breakfast, it's all good for ya.

[SAMSON123]

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/organic-food/NU00255/NSECTIONGROUP=2
Nutrition.

 No conclusive evidence shows that organic food is more nutritious than is conventionally grown food. And the USDA — even though it certifies organic food — doesn't claim that these products are safer or more nutritious.

You fail to realize the GAME here. If research is NEVER done to show the difference between chemically laced food adn it effect on its nutrition and/or even safety then any company or research organization can legally claim that no research exist that shows any difference between conventionally and organically grown food. It is all a word game. None the less you can not discount the massive upsurge of diseases and conditions that I have mentioned since the introduction of these chemicals into the food, water, soil crops over the past fifty years.

[The True Adonis]

Add to the fact that Organic Farming would be far more dangerous to the environment.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/04/26/attention_whole_foods_shoppers?page=0,1


Here's why: Less than 1 percent of American cropland is under certified organic production. If the other 99 percent were to switch to organic and had to fertilize crops without any synthetic nitrogen fertilizer, that would require a lot more composted animal manure. To supply enough organic fertilizer, the U.S. cattle population would have to increase roughly fivefold. And because those animals would have to be raised organically on forage crops, much of the land in the lower 48 states would need to be converted to pasture. Organic field crops also have lower yields per hectare. If Europe tried to feed itself organically, it would need an additional 28 million hectares of cropland, equal to all of the remaining forest cover in France, Germany, Britain, and Denmark combined.

Mass deforestation probably isn't what organic advocates intend. The smart way to protect against nitrogen runoff is to reduce synthetic fertilizer applications with taxes, regulations, and cuts in farm subsidies, but not try to go all the way to zero as required by the official organic standard. Scaling up registered organic farming would be on balance harmful, not helpful, to the natural environment.

[SAMSON123]

Sadly, you give in to conspiracy theories.

SCIENCE, FACT and EVIDENCE are NOT on your side. 

You think so? Tell you what since you believe these chemicals are so safe, go to your local Home Depot or Farm Supply Store and buy a can of each of the chemicals I mentioned in my earlier post. Get a couple of bowls and pour some of each chemical into each bowl and use it as a DIPPING SAUCE for your food from now on. DO this for a couple of weeks and come back to the board (if you can) and tell us what happened.

Watch as I said the doc THE WORLD ACCORDING TO MONSANTO. Monsanto has DESTROYED crops and farms around the world with their crap chemicals, their GMO seeds have devastated farms in India, South Africa, Brazil, Mexico, Ecuador, Indonesia and soon america and europe and this GMO/IRRADIATED food will begin showing it full fury soon enough as the ban on using it on only cotton, soy beans, canola and corn has been lifted. Everything is now up for grabs and everything is being grabbed by Monsanto.

[The True Adonis]

You think so? Tell you what since you believe these chemicals are so safe, go to your local Home Depot or Farm Supply Store and buy a can of each of the chemicals I mentioned in my earlier post. Get a couple of bowls and pour some of each chemical into each bowl and use it as a DIPPING SAUCE for your food from now on. DO this for a couple of weeks and come back to the board (if you can) and tell us what happened.

Watch as I said the doc THE WORLD ACCORDING TO MONSANTO. Monsanto has DESTROYED crops and farms around the world with their crap chemicals, their GMO seeds have devastated farms in India, South Africa, Brazil, Mexico, Ecuador, Indonesia and soon america and europe and this GMO/IRRADIATED food will begin showing it full fury soon enough as the ban on using it on only cotton, soy beans, canola and corn has been lifted. Everything is now up for grabs and everything is being grabbed by Monsanto.

I will just stick to eating Conventionally grown produce and the crops we produce.

You want to know the ironic thing, Jezebelle and I grow more crops in one season than you will grow your entire life.  Jezebelle does it as a hobby.

[SAMSON123]

Add to the fact that Organic Farming would be far more dangerous to the environment.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2010/04/26/attention_whole_foods_shoppers?page=0,1


Here's why: Less than 1 percent of American cropland is under certified organic production. If the other 99 percent were to switch to organic and had to fertilize crops without any synthetic nitrogen fertilizer, that would require a lot more composted animal manure. To supply enough organic fertilizer, the U.S. cattle population would have to increase roughly fivefold. And because those animals would have to be raised organically on forage crops, much of the land in the lower 48 states would need to be converted to pasture. Organic field crops also have lower yields per hectare. If Europe tried to feed itself organically, it would need an additional 28 million hectares of cropland, equal to all of the remaining forest cover in France, Germany, Britain, and Denmark combined.

Mass deforestation probably isn't what organic advocates intend. The smart way to protect against nitrogen runoff is to reduce synthetic fertilizer applications with taxes, regulations, and cuts in farm subsidies, but not try to go all the way to zero as required by the official organic standard. Scaling up registered organic farming would be on balance harmful, not helpful, to the natural environment.

TA you have got to stop being a SHEEPLE. You are living under the TERROR AND FEAR governments and businesses wish people to live in in order to make them compliant. The world has been feeding itself for MILLENIA with no artificial anything. Organically grown crops are more robust, disease resistant and supersede output of chemically produced food. These wild eyed claims of the need to mass deforest, cattle productio needing to increase five fold yadda yadda is just fear talk. Watch FOOD INC that will bring your false beliefs to an end

[The True Adonis]

TA you have got to stop being a SHEEPLE. You are living under the TERROR AND FEAR governments and businesses wish people to live in in order to make them compliant. The world has been feeding itself for MILLENIA with no artificial anything. Organically grown crops are more robust, disease resistant and supersede output of chemically produced food. These wild eyed claims of the need to mass deforest, cattle productio needing to increase five fold yadda yadda is just fear talk. Watch FOOD INC that will bring your false beliefs to an end

Again, the Science, Facts and Evidence are not in your favor whatsoever.  You are being manipulated by an entire Industry, Organic Foods, and you are doing nothing but supporting False Claims with no basis in any truth or evidence.

Why don`t you stop with the biased "documentaries", outlandish conspiracy theories and have a look at the actual peer-reviewed Science?

I understand you have a lot of emotion invested in this and therefore your dogmatic belief is clouding your judgement.

All I ask is to merely look at the irrefutable, empirical evidence.  

[SAMSON123]

I will just stick to eating Conventionally grown produce and the crops we produce.

You want to know the ironic thing, Jezebelle and I grow more crops in one season than you will grow your entire life.  Jezebelle does it as a hobby.

Why you have decided to step into the RING OF STUPIDITY is beyond me. I have said many times on this board I have family all of america and my family that lives in the south east states have farms and have lived in these areas for generations growing food and running businesses based on food: farmer's markets, organic farms, restaurants etc. They know the dangers of these chemicals but better yet they know the natural order of things in having cows, horses, goats etc graze on GRASS (not corn which produces E-Coli). They know that the waste from live stock is a natural fertilizer, natural pesticide, natural fungicide that only needs to be till.ed into the soil.  They know the timing of growing certain crops followed by others with one naturally adding nitrogen to the soil (peanuts, strawberries, clovers, potatos, soy beans etc) and then the other extracting nitrogen from the soil: corn wheat etc.

You have a lot to learn TA

[SAMSON123]

Again, the Science, Facts and Evidence are not in your favor whatsoever.  You are being manipulated by an entire Industry, Organic Foods, and you are doing nothing but supporting False Claims with no basis in any truth or evidence.

Why don`t you stop with the biased "documentaries", outlandish conspiracy theories and have a look at the actual peer-reviewed Science?

I understand you have a lot of emotion invested in this and therefore your dogmatic belief is clouding your judgement.

All I ask is to merely look at the irrefutable, empirical evidence.  

I looked at the evidence and I see the evidence daily in the insurance industry industry I work. Cancers, alzheimers, strokes heart attacks, lupus and a laundry list of diseases all of which appeared in the last fifty years...what a coincidence...same time period as the influx of chemicals...Hmmmmm.. But rather than going on forever, educate yourself on facts other than what the chemical industry puts out. Get to know farmers, watch the docs I mentioned, do some research on the chemicals used in agriculture and see their side effects which range from birth defects to organ failure, to death...

[The True Adonis]

Why you have decided to step into the RING OF STUPIDITY is beyond me. I have said many times on this board I have family all of america and my family that lives in the south east states have farms and have lived in these areas for generations growing food and running businesses based on food: farmer's markets, organic farms, restaurants etc. They know the dangers of these chemicals but better yet they know the natural order of things in having cows, horses, goats etc graze on GRASS (not corn which produces E-Coli). They know that the waste from live stock is a natural fertilizer, natural pesticide, natural fungicide that only needs to be till.ed into the soil.  They know the timing of growing certain crops followed by others with one naturally adding nitrogen to the soil (peanuts, strawberries, clovers, potatos, soy beans etc) and then the other extracting nitrogen from the soil: corn wheat etc.

You have a lot to learn TA

Sorry,  I rather go where the Science and Evidence takes us.  Your conspiracy nonsense is just that, pure nonsense based on nothing more than a biased view and uninformed/misplaced hatred.

[Fury]

I looked at the evidence and I see the evidence daily in the insurance industry industry I work. Cancers, alzheimers, strokes heart attacks, lupus and a laundry list of diseases all of which appeared in the last fifty years...what a coincidence...same time period as the influx of chemicals...Hmmmmm.. But rather than going on forever, educate yourself on facts other than what the chemical industry puts out. Get to know farmers, watch the docs I mentioned, do some research on the chemicals used in agriculture and see their side effects which range from birth defects to organ failure, to death...

Now you're in the insurance industry? How many career changes are you going to make every year? It's amazing how your career always happens to involve the topic you're discussing. Oddly coincidental that you're an engineer in threads involving hard science and now you're in the insurance industry in a thread involving the health effects of consuming non-organic food. Stop lying and provide evidence, please. Adonis has linked studies and articles. What about you? And no, ONE article does not do much.

If you're incapable of doing that, please shut up.  

[SAMSON123]

Now you're in the insurance industry? How many career changes are you going to make every year? It's amazing how your career always happens to involve the topic you're discussing. Oddly coincidental that you're an engineer in threads involving hard science and now you're in the insurance industry in a thread involving the health effects of consuming non-organic food. Stop lying and provide evidence, please. Adonis has linked studies and articles. What about you? And no, ONE article does not do much.

If you're incapable of doing that, please shut up.  

If it not the GETBIG homo on the usual stalk. What happen to your alias EL CHAPO? Seems he magically disappeared as soon as Berzerk was off the ban. I guess now you will resurrect him realizing that you forgot to maintain his presence....Imagine that, you who complain of others having aliases have one yourself. LMAO

So far as TA goes I don't think he needs some uneducated limp wristed individual like yourself speaking for him. He has enough issues trying to understand that POISONS DON'T DO A BODY GOOD

OH and BTW why don't you go back and check my former posts about where I work and what I do. Yes engineers work in the medical/insurance industry along with doctors, scientist, lawyers, researchers, pharmacists yadda yadda. You would know that, but I guess a life of living in the closet (literal and figurative) keeps you out of the intelligence loop..

[Fury]

Surprise, surprise. Meltdown McGee takes the usual route of slinging insults while avoiding the topic. I'll take your lack of hard evidence as you not really having any idea as to what you're talking about. What's the matter? The CT blogs where you copy/paste your posts and threads from not link any of those for you to read?  

And nice try with your trying to loop your multiple careers under one umbrella. You've already been exposed for lying about being an engineer. Chances are you'll expose yourself down the road with regards to your "insurance" career as well.  

Going to run away from this thread like the volcano one, SamsonEnterprises?

[MB_722]

why can't I just be against something because I don't want my food tampered with?

fuck off TA

[The True Adonis]

why can't I just be against something because I don't want my food tampered with?

fuck off TA

Nobody is tampering with your food.

Do you realize that every single crop since the history of agriculture has been artificially selected for, hence genetically modified?

[Hugo Chavez]

Pesticide studies flawed
http://www.buffalo.edu/ubreporter/archives/vol36/vol36n16/articles/Lockwood.html

http://www.ocfp.on.ca/English/OCFP/Communications/CurrentIssues/Pesticides/default.asp?s=1

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9498903?dopt=Abstract

http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/members/1998/Suppl-3/893-908zahm/zahm-full.html

better safe than sorry, I thought it was a free country?  Why would TA push pesticides on people who don't want to take the chance?  He posts taste tests for products that limit pesticides, how stupid is that?  If you wanted to do a taste test, have people taste veggies from a home garden to those at the store.  You will taste the difference bigtime.  Especially with tomatoes.  TA, what do you give a shit if people want to buy organic foods?  Go buy whatever the fuck you want jackass and I'll buy what I want!
http://www.healthcastle.com/organic-produce-pesticides.shtml

[gcb]

Nobody is tampering with your food.

Do you realize that every single crop since the history of agriculture has been artificially selected for, hence genetically modified?

Genetically selected with natural variation - not quite the same as changing a whole set of genes for say all tomatoes. Whatever negative effect one bad tomato can have on you multiply by X amount that you eat every week.

[Hugo Chavez]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-05-11-pesticide-study_x.htm

http://www.env-health.org/a/3057

http://www.organicconsumers.org/foodsafety/pesticides051704.cfm